Originally Posted by rubicon

Coralway: Let me begin by thanking you for interpreting the intent of this thread and secondly for responding to it.

My interpretation of the phrase "You can't argue a bumper sticker" is simply that folks who display them feel so strongly about the issue that debate is out of the question.

Having said that it is my humble view that Biden is wrong on both counts.

General Motors infusion of government money was unnecesary. General Motors would have simply done what they are doing now mergers and joint ventures. Obama's intent was to reward the unions and he did that by handing over a good % of GM to them. This would ensure that he would retain union support. The people who really deserve credit are the same people who prefer anonymity because their profession and humble profiles demand it. The Navy SEALS do not want attention brought to them or their methods of operating. Loose lips sink ships. So here we have an ego-manic waving his arms and acting as if he single-handedly took bin Laden down when in fact he has neither the temperment or stomach for things military

We have far too many Americans acting like the political arena is some sort of reality show. This is serious business and it requires careful and thoughtful analysis of candidates, issues and solutions none of which can be accomplished by name calling and one upmanship.

Thank you again for your thoughtful reply

Totally irrational for once, Rubicon. You are usually right on the money but not on this post. If it had not been for the infusion of US money into GM, hundred of thousands of American auto workers and the trickle down workers from them would have been out of work. The US economy would have gone into the toilet and NOT recovered as it is doing quite nicely now. There was plenty of time for venture capitalists to have stepped in before the government stepped in - but it did not happen. One poster on this forum had even gone far as to say that there would have been some initial pain but free markets would have straightened it out shortly. Also your saying "rewarding the unions" belongs to the comment also. HORSEFEATHERS!

Also, I have not heard Pres. Obama waving his arms and shouting that he killed bin Laden by himself. You must be watching way too much FOX NOISE to believe that has been done. Remember, though, since some of your conservative posters have been quick to say whatever happens on the President's term of office belongs to him. Well, bin Laden was killed by US forces on Pres. Obama's "watch". Since 9/11 happened on George W. Bush's "watch", does he get the blame for that? I would not do that. However, regarding bin Laden's killing, that was a real time directive that came directly from the White House to kill him at that Pakistan house.

Obama Monitors bin Laden Mission from Situation Room - TIME

Rock Center on NBC at 10:00pm Wed will have Brian Williams in the situation room interviewing all the principles shown in the infamous photo. All, in their own words, will give their candid view of what happened and what their feelings were at the time. This is the first time in 50 years that cameras were allowed in the situation room.

President Obama couldn't be accused of bragging about Bin Laden's death unless he landed on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner. That would be bragging.

Originally Posted by waynet

Beck is still alive?

Bigger than ever. You just run in the wrong circles.

Originally Posted by janmcn

Rock Center on NBC at 10:00pm Wed will have Brian Williams in the situation room interviewing all the principles shown in the infamous photo. All, in their own words, will give their candid view of what happened and what their feelings were at the time. This is the first time in 50 years that cameras were allowed in the situation room.

President Obama couldn't be accused of bragging about Bin Laden's death unless he landed on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.

Oh, the Obama News Network is going to do a big puff piece on the President?

I'll put it on my calendar.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Oh, the Obama News Network is going to do a big puff piece on the President?

I'll put it on my calendar.

Yes, that would be the President Obama News Network, not to be confused with the Romney Network, whose owner spends all his time defending himself against criminal allegations such as wire tapping and eaves dropping. The same network whose anchors were recently forced to apologize for misquoting the president and an unappropriate tweet about Sandra Fluke.

Originally Posted by janmcn

Yes, that would be the President Obama News Network, not to be confused with the Romney Network, whose owner spends all his time defending himself against criminal allegations such as wire tapping and eaves dropping. The same network whose anchors were recently forced to apologize for misquoting the president and an unappropriate tweet about Sandra Fluke.

I don't think there's any network in the tank for Romney as are the conglomeration of networks on Obama's leash.

Even the network that people laughingly think conservative because it's the only network that give you an alternate side of the news besides all the liberal claptrap hasn't been overly kind to Romney.

You need to do better, IMHO.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I don't think there's any network in the tank for Romney as are the conglomeration of networks on Obama's leash.

Even the network that people laughingly think conservative because it's the only network that give you an alternate side of the news besides all the liberal claptrap hasn't been overly kind to Romney.

You need to do better, IMHO.

I guess it's true then that nobody likes Mitt Romney.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Totally irrational for once, Rubicon. You are usually right on the money but not on this post. If it had not been for the infusion of US money into GM, hundred of thousands of American auto workers and the trickle down workers from them would have been out of work. The US economy would have gone into the toilet and NOT recovered as it is doing quite nicely now. There was plenty of time for venture capitalists to have stepped in before the government stepped in - but it did not happen. One poster on this forum had even gone far as to say that there would have been some initial pain but free markets would have straightened it out shortly. Also your saying "rewarding the unions" belongs to the comment also. HORSEFEATHERS!

Also, I have not heard Pres. Obama waving his arms and shouting that he killed bin Laden by himself. You must be watching way too much FOX NOISE to believe that has been done. Remember, though, since some of your conservative posters have been quick to say whatever happens on the President's term of office belongs to him. Well, bin Laden was killed by US forces on Pres. Obama's "watch". Since 9/11 happened on George W. Bush's "watch", does he get the blame for that? I would not do that. However, regarding bin Laden's killing, that was a real time directive that came directly from the White House to kill him at that Pakistan house.

Patience buggyone the truth concerning the theObama/Feds response to GM will eventually come out. The cracks are but begnning.

Obama via his syncophants has been beating that war drum concerning bin Laden to demonstrate how war like he is but in reality he is a withdrawalist.

It may be sir, that you do not agree with me but it doesn't make me wrong
Oh by the way I didn't think Bush handled the downturn vey well either. and as for the Fed they are going to make the dollar worthless unless someone stops their interference. I am against most corporate welfare

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by janmcn

I guess it's true then that nobody likes Mitt Romney.

But at least, thank God, he's better than Obama. At least he's not a commie

Be careful Obama, Taking credit for taking out Osama might come back to haunt you!

Osama Bin Laden dead: Obama took 16 hours to make up his mind | Mail Online

BlueHeron,

And how does an un-named reporter for a British newspaper know what went on in the situation room at the White House? The reporter did not give any credence to his charge that Pres. Obama "slept" on the decision to order the killing of bin Laden.

The photographs on the weblink are also not accurate. One shows a carload of young people captioned in front of the White House. It is NOT the White House.

Maybe they could have pictured Junior Bush on an aircraft carrier again with a banner that read, "Mission Accomplished - BUT NOT ON MY WATCH!"

Originally Posted by buggyone

BlueHeron,

And how does an un-named reporter for a British newspaper know what went on in the situation room at the White House? The reporter did not give any credence to his charge that Pres. Obama "slept" on the decision to order the killing of bin Laden.

The photographs on the weblink are also not accurate. One shows a carload of young people captioned in front of the White House. It is NOT the White House.

Maybe they could have pictured Junior Bush on an aircraft carrier again with a banner that read, "Mission Accomplished - BUT NOT ON MY WATCH!"

Maybe he was able to give the OBL go ahead, after being called off the golf course, but the Middle East is lost in the balance.

Almost every aspect of the middle east region is worse off in a strategic sense for the United States under the direction of Obama. His policies have been a disaster.

» Obama got Osama, but lost the Middle East - Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion

You can credit Junior Bush and Herbie Bush for that. After all, they were the fools that invaded Iraq. By the way, did we get the cheap oil they promised us for those fiascos?

Originally Posted by buggyone

You can credit Junior Bush and Herbie Bush for that. After all, they were the fools that invaded Iraq. By the way, did we get the cheap oil they promised us for those fiascos?

Did we get the cheap oil? Heck, they couldn't even find any of those WMD's they told us Iraq had.