Originally Posted by Guest

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss.

You think "the system" is going to let some renegade come in and destroy everything?

He's also going to spend like crazy...and borrow like crazy too.

Interest rates will go negative. What is it? 40% of the worlds sovereign bonds are negative now? Japan is full of "negativity". You PAY for them to hold your money. Did I mention they want to also ban cash? So you have no alternative from digital funds. They want to know EVERYTHING you buy. It's a marketing gold mine. EVERY monetary transaction, recorded, sold, and data mined.

you forgot Trump is the bankruptcy KING, he will have US file bankruptcy, problem solved, ha!

Originally Posted by Guest

So how come the enrollment in Obamacare keeps growing, now up to 22 million? Hopefully none of these 22 million are Trump voters. Trump promises to repeal the ACA on day one and dump these 22 million back on the emergency rooms where they belong.

The reason for increased enrollment? Easy, everyone is losing their insurance because of Obamacare and having to find some fast replacement before doing their taxes. That's not too hard to understand. You still have at least 31 million without insurance according the BoLS today.

Originally Posted by Guest

Well you "Make America Great" supporters... how do you feel now that your guru has backed off of just about everything he promised you. Cleaned the swamp ? wow he plans to nominate a whole lot of big business moguls. One thing we have to give to Mr. Trump... he is the best pied piper ever.

His choice for EPA - a guy that believes global warming is a hoax
His choice for Sect. of Education - no experience, no formal education and does not believe in public schools... oh but her qualifications - she donated $9M to the Trump campaign.
And now they want to privatize your social security benefits along with medicare.
Well..... you got your man.... now we all have to live with the disaster you folks generated.

1. I suspect it is a safe bet that you voted for Hillary.
2. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS I AM AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. For BOTH of our sakes may you NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE. As I stated, I looked at who Obama was and is. HAD YOU LOOKED you would have seen he was surrounded by people like god damn america WRIGHT, the criminal ARES and the white hating, out spoken antisemitic FARRACAN.
You either did not look or did not care. I CAN TRULY SAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
3. RE; CLEAN THE SWAMP
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your anti TRUMP and anti REPUBLICAN VIEW.
So far TRUMP HAS NOT EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.
CLEAN THE SWAMP
THE LAW HAS GOTTEN RID OF OBAMA
THE VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE CLINTON GANG
SOROS-WHO HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FUNDING THE VIOLENT ANTI TRUMP RIOTS WILL BE REMOVED TO HELL SHORTLY BY THE GRIM REAPER.
4. RE: SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
The fact is that our EDUCATION STANDARDS have been going down since THE LIBERALS, THROUGH THE TEACHERS UNION took over our education system in the 1960's. The UNITED STATES spends TWICE as much per student as our competitors do an our students SCORE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD. If, nothing else TRUMP spent about 10% of what HILLARY SPENT on his campaign. EVEN YOU HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS MUST SEE TRUMP GOT FAR MORE VALUE PER DOLLAR SPENT-IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD-HILLAY LOST-TRUMP WON. If, you dare to see it, we spend more than enough on education. WE JUST ARE NOT GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

FOR ALL OF US-I HOPE YOU WILL NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.

5. RE: GLOBAL WARMING
Again DON'T LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY. Global warming has become a religion. Were you to READ, you would find global warming was predicted by EINSTEIN around WWII. The cause is a cyclical change in the tilt of the earth You read about a rise in CO2. There is a magic balance in nature. At higher levels of CO2 plants grow faster and so use more CO2 to produce faster growth so they produce more OXYGEN. You can prove this to yourself. Buy two plants, put a clear plastic bag over each of them. Put a dish of club soda in one and a dish of
water in the other. You will change the club soda dish every two days or so and change the water only dish at the same time-just to be equal. In a week or two you will see clearly the plant with more CO2 is doing better. Al Gore's professor has said-NOT REPEATED IN THE LIBERAL CONTROLLED NEWS-that they tweaked the numbers to show global warming TO KEEP THE GRANT MONEY FLOWING. AL GORE the self elected preacher of global warming tells you/us to REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT WHILE HE LIVES IN A HUGE HOME BURNING FUEL LIKE CRAZY AND HE JETS ALL OVER THE WORLD-BURNING FUEL-TO INDOCTRINATE BELIEVERS LIKE YOURSELF.
CAN YOU STILL HUM THE HARRI KRISHNA TUNE?

Originally Posted by Guest

you forgot Trump is the bankruptcy KING, he will have US file bankruptcy, problem solved, ha!

We are already in bankruptcy and don't want to admit it. Do you really want to go there?

Originally Posted by Guest

1. I suspect it is a safe bet that you voted for Hillary.
2. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS I AM AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. For BOTH of our sakes may you NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE. As I stated, I looked at who Obama was and is. HAD YOU LOOKED you would have seen he was surrounded by people like god damn america WRIGHT, the criminal ARES and the white hating, out spoken antisemitic FARRACAN.
You either did not look or did not care. I CAN TRULY SAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
3. RE; CLEAN THE SWAMP
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your anti TRUMP and anti REPUBLICAN VIEW.
So far TRUMP HAS NOT EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.
CLEAN THE SWAMP
THE LAW HAS GOTTEN RID OF OBAMA
THE VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE CLINTON GANG
SOROS-WHO HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FUNDING THE VIOLENT ANTI TRUMP RIOTS WILL BE REMOVED TO HELL SHORTLY BY THE GRIM REAPER.
4. RE: SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
The fact is that our EDUCATION STANDARDS have been going down since THE LIBERALS, THROUGH THE TEACHERS UNION took over our education system in the 1960's. The UNITED STATES spends TWICE as much per student as our competitors do an our students SCORE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD. If, nothing else TRUMP spent about 10% of what HILLARY SPENT on his campaign. EVEN YOU HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS MUST SEE TRUMP GOT FAR MORE VALUE PER DOLLAR SPENT-IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD-HILLAY LOST-TRUMP WON. If, you dare to see it, we spend more than enough on education. WE JUST ARE NOT GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

FOR ALL OF US-I HOPE YOU WILL NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.

5. RE: GLOBAL WARMING
Again DON'T LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY. Global warming has become a religion. Were you to READ, you would find global warming was predicted by EINSTEIN around WWII. The cause is a cyclical change in the tilt of the earth You read about a rise in CO2. There is a magic balance in nature. At higher levels of CO2 plants grow faster and so use more CO2 to produce faster growth so they produce more OXYGEN. You can prove this to yourself. Buy two plants, put a clear plastic bag over each of them. Put a dish of club soda in one and a dish of
water in the other. You will change the club soda dish every two days or so and change the water only dish at the same time-just to be equal. In a week or two you will see clearly the plant with more CO2 is doing better. Al Gore's professor has said-NOT REPEATED IN THE LIBERAL CONTROLLED NEWS-that they tweaked the numbers to show global warming TO KEEP THE GRANT MONEY FLOWING. AL GORE the self elected preacher of global warming tells you/us to REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT WHILE HE LIVES IN A HUGE HOME BURNING FUEL LIKE CRAZY AND HE JETS ALL OVER THE WORLD-BURNING FUEL-TO INDOCTRINATE BELIEVERS LIKE YOURSELF.
CAN YOU STILL HUM THE HARRI KRISHNA TUNE?

Excellent response!

Originally Posted by Guest

Like Obie said when he won, “Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” And the pendulum swings both ways folks.

Now, it is your turn to be the LOSERS

Nobody is questioning that. If it helps to pump up your childish ego then here it is, you won and the majority of Americans who voted for someone else are the losers. What we are saying now is that because we lost we don't have to bow down to this racist, misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull, and I won't. In 2008, Senate Majority Leader Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky stated, during the first week of the new Obama Administration, "my number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president." The majority of Americans now, like the Majority Leader then, are free to say ditto.

Originally Posted by Guest

Nobody is questioning that. If it helps to pump up your childish ego then here it is, you won and the majority of Americans who voted for someone else are the losers. What we are saying now is that because we lost we don't have to bow down to this racist, misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull, and I won't. In 2008, Senate Majority Leader Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky stated, during the first week of the new Obama Administration, "my number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president." The majority of Americans now, like the Majority Leader then, are free to say ditto.

Awww, did ole Mitch hurt your feelings? Are you still repeating those out of date liberal talking points, left over from Hillary's FAILED campaign (misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull)?

Now, you know what it feels like to be a LOSER. Hillary did NOT win. Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. So, yes you have to live with it. Everyone has opportunity in America, Obama proved that. No matter how incompetent, as Obie proved.

Dude, you can say that the majority of America can say anything they wish, but it won't matter for four years. It was NOT the majority of America. Only half the registered voters even turned out to vote so, you can say maybe a quarter of America feels the way you do.

Fact is that TRUMP WON! If you wish to be a poor loser because you may have lost a freebie or two, fine. It's your choice. Sorry but not everyone gets a trophy for attendance in the general election. You put your support on a criminal and you got your just desserts.

Originally Posted by Guest

1. I suspect it is a safe bet that you voted for Hillary.
2. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS I AM AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. For BOTH of our sakes may you NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE. As I stated, I looked at who Obama was and is. HAD YOU LOOKED you would have seen he was surrounded by people like god damn america WRIGHT, the criminal ARES and the white hating, out spoken antisemitic FARRACAN.
You either did not look or did not care. I CAN TRULY SAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
3. RE; CLEAN THE SWAMP
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your anti TRUMP and anti REPUBLICAN VIEW.
So far TRUMP HAS NOT EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.
CLEAN THE SWAMP
THE LAW HAS GOTTEN RID OF OBAMA
THE VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE CLINTON GANG
SOROS-WHO HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FUNDING THE VIOLENT ANTI TRUMP RIOTS WILL BE REMOVED TO HELL SHORTLY BY THE GRIM REAPER.
4. RE: SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
The fact is that our EDUCATION STANDARDS have been going down since THE LIBERALS, THROUGH THE TEACHERS UNION took over our education system in the 1960's. The UNITED STATES spends TWICE as much per student as our competitors do an our students SCORE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD. If, nothing else TRUMP spent about 10% of what HILLARY SPENT on his campaign. EVEN YOU HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS MUST SEE TRUMP GOT FAR MORE VALUE PER DOLLAR SPENT-IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD-HILLAY LOST-TRUMP WON. If, you dare to see it, we spend more than enough on education. WE JUST ARE NOT GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

FOR ALL OF US-I HOPE YOU WILL NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.

5. RE: GLOBAL WARMING
Again DON'T LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY. Global warming has become a religion. Were you to READ, you would find global warming was predicted by EINSTEIN around WWII. The cause is a cyclical change in the tilt of the earth You read about a rise in CO2. There is a magic balance in nature. At higher levels of CO2 plants grow faster and so use more CO2 to produce faster growth so they produce more OXYGEN. You can prove this to yourself. Buy two plants, put a clear plastic bag over each of them. Put a dish of club soda in one and a dish of
water in the other. You will change the club soda dish every two days or so and change the water only dish at the same time-just to be equal. In a week or two you will see clearly the plant with more CO2 is doing better. Al Gore's professor has said-NOT REPEATED IN THE LIBERAL CONTROLLED NEWS-that they tweaked the numbers to show global warming TO KEEP THE GRANT MONEY FLOWING. AL GORE the self elected preacher of global warming tells you/us to REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT WHILE HE LIVES IN A HUGE HOME BURNING FUEL LIKE CRAZY AND HE JETS ALL OVER THE WORLD-BURNING FUEL-TO INDOCTRINATE BELIEVERS LIKE YOURSELF.
CAN YOU STILL HUM THE HARRI KRISHNA TUNE?

YOU LIKELY DO NOT UNDERSTAND SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE
Social Security, medicare, medicaid and now OBAMACARE are all paid for in full or in part by the money you/we paid as a social security tax. Like most other OBVIOUS TAXES we pay it is a graduated tax. People who earn more pay more into the system but not only do they pay more in they get less per dollar they pay in tax. The amount you paid to social security was likely the biggest tax you paid.
More important, many people may not even realize it, for ever dollar you sent in your employer was forced to match it. I WAS SELF EMPLOYED AND I HAD TO PAY 13% TO SOCIAL SECURITY. If, you worked for someone other than your self you paid a maximum of 7%. THE OTHER HALF WAS ESSENTIALLY TAX FREE INCOME TO YOU.

As to the PAYOUT compared to what you have paid in.
My wife and I just got on medicare. ONCE AGAIN WE GET THE SHAFT. Because of what I had EARNED, we do not have the guaranteed INFLATION CAP on what we pay to medicare AND I PAY THE TOP AMOUNT FOR MEDICARE COVERAGE.

We keep hearing about Obama having added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt.

IF, we say and hear it enough times WE BELIEVE WE UNDERSTAND IT AND IT MAKES SENSE. Under HITLER that was called the big lie. I am perhaps less subject to it because I am one of only about 5% of people who cannot be hypnotized. tEN TRILLION DOLLARS IS SEVERAL FRIGHT TRAINS FULL OF HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS.

We have been led to believe that CHINA is our largest creditor.
The fact is we owe slightly more to JAPAN than to CHINA.
ARE YOU STARTING TO REALIZE WE ARE BEING FED FALSE INFORMATION??????????????
FOR THE BIG LIE-JAPAN AND CHINA TOGETHER HOLD 20% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT-SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT.
YOU TRUSTED OUR GOVERNMENT TO HOLD THE MONEY YOU WERE FORCED TO SEND TO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR, AT LEAST FOR ME, 45 YEARS AND THEY SPENT IT.

YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN A FAR BETTER DEAL THAN SOCIAL SECURITY WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE AND FOR FAR LESS COST. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

Originally Posted by Guest

One reason is that some states, including CA, are doing what we were promised would never happen. Non-citizens are accessing the ACA.

Actual proof from a legitimate source...and not just someone's opinion?

Originally Posted by Guest

1. I suspect it is a safe bet that you voted for Hillary.
2. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS I AM AGAIN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. For BOTH of our sakes may you NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE. As I stated, I looked at who Obama was and is. HAD YOU LOOKED you would have seen he was surrounded by people like god damn america WRIGHT, the criminal ARES and the white hating, out spoken antisemitic FARRACAN.
You either did not look or did not care. I CAN TRULY SAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO ADMIT I WAS WRONG NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
3. RE; CLEAN THE SWAMP
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your anti TRUMP and anti REPUBLICAN VIEW.
So far TRUMP HAS NOT EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT.
CLEAN THE SWAMP
THE LAW HAS GOTTEN RID OF OBAMA
THE VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE CLINTON GANG
SOROS-WHO HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FUNDING THE VIOLENT ANTI TRUMP RIOTS WILL BE REMOVED TO HELL SHORTLY BY THE GRIM REAPER.
4. RE: SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
The fact is that our EDUCATION STANDARDS have been going down since THE LIBERALS, THROUGH THE TEACHERS UNION took over our education system in the 1960's. The UNITED STATES spends TWICE as much per student as our competitors do an our students SCORE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD. If, nothing else TRUMP spent about 10% of what HILLARY SPENT on his campaign. EVEN YOU HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS MUST SEE TRUMP GOT FAR MORE VALUE PER DOLLAR SPENT-IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD-HILLAY LOST-TRUMP WON. If, you dare to see it, we spend more than enough on education. WE JUST ARE NOT GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

FOR ALL OF US-I HOPE YOU WILL NEED TO ADMIT YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.

5. RE: GLOBAL WARMING
Again DON'T LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY. Global warming has become a religion. Were you to READ, you would find global warming was predicted by EINSTEIN around WWII. The cause is a cyclical change in the tilt of the earth You read about a rise in CO2. There is a magic balance in nature. At higher levels of CO2 plants grow faster and so use more CO2 to produce faster growth so they produce more OXYGEN. You can prove this to yourself. Buy two plants, put a clear plastic bag over each of them. Put a dish of club soda in one and a dish of
water in the other. You will change the club soda dish every two days or so and change the water only dish at the same time-just to be equal. In a week or two you will see clearly the plant with more CO2 is doing better. Al Gore's professor has said-NOT REPEATED IN THE LIBERAL CONTROLLED NEWS-that they tweaked the numbers to show global warming TO KEEP THE GRANT MONEY FLOWING. AL GORE the self elected preacher of global warming tells you/us to REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT WHILE HE LIVES IN A HUGE HOME BURNING FUEL LIKE CRAZY AND HE JETS ALL OVER THE WORLD-BURNING FUEL-TO INDOCTRINATE BELIEVERS LIKE YOURSELF.
CAN YOU STILL HUM THE HARRI KRISHNA TUNE?

I don't even know where to start...with this willfully ignorant diatribe.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am perhaps less subject to it because I am one of only about 5% of people who cannot be hypnotized.

This, in a nutshell...is what's wrong with so many on the right.

You think that you can say anything, or pass on any lie...and people should just believe you?

Not Getting Sleepy? Not Everyone Can Be Hypnotized | Psych Central News

The researcher estimates that 25 percent of the patients he sees cannot be hypnotized.

BTW, I can't be hypnotized either.

The big difference between us is, that I don't believe lies...nor can be bullchitted either.

On another note, why do you always scream with caps...like your head is about to explode?

Originally Posted by Guest

Nobody is questioning that. If it helps to pump up your childish ego then here it is, you won and the majority of Americans who voted for someone else are the losers. What we are saying now is that because we lost we don't have to bow down to this racist, misogynist, xenophobic, narcissistic, KKK supported numbskull, and I won't. In 2008, Senate Majority Leader Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky stated, during the first week of the new Obama Administration, "my number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president." The majority of Americans now, like the Majority Leader then, are free to say ditto.

This is not a HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL GAME. Our TEAM IS AMERICA not DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN PARTY.
OBAMA himself proved he should not have been president.
Obama hitched his election to the worst that is America. Obama, our first BLACK PRESIDENT was granted a unique opportunity to put a major dent in race issues. Instead OBAMA CHOSE to fan sparks into forest fires. THINK-on his exit Obama leaves our country/MY COUNTRY thoroughly divided not only along the lines of RACE but now SUCCESS ENVY is the LIBERAL VIEW. DAMN IT-if you are willing to work HARD. if failure is simply not a concept in your thoughts YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. I AM PROOF OF THAT.
For the CLINTONS they are CRIMINALS. I must admit they have proven to be GREAT at getting away with crimes.

RE:KKK
THE FACTS ARE-Trump did not seek the support of the KKK.
CLOSER TO HOME-are YOU AWARE THAT HILLARY CHOSE TO SPEAK FOR THE TRAVON MARTIN GROUP? Are you aware that TRAVON MARTIN'S OWN MOTHER SAID HE WAS NO GOOD UNTIL PEOPLE LIKE SHARPTON SHUT HER UP.

There were pictures of ARES, Obama;s pet CRIMINAL, attending TRUMP rallies.

There are checks showing SOROS has funded leaders of violent anit Trump protests.

There are pictures of groups of BLACK PANTHERS at voting sites during the OBAMA vote

AMERICA HAS WON=SUCK IT UP.

Originally Posted by Guest

We keep hearing about Obama having added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt.

IF, we say and hear it enough times WE BELIEVE WE UNDERSTAND IT AND IT MAKES SENSE. Under HITLER that was called the big lie. I am perhaps less subject to it because I am one of only about 5% of people who cannot be hypnotized. tEN TRILLION DOLLARS IS SEVERAL FRIGHT TRAINS FULL OF HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS.

We have been led to believe that CHINA is our largest creditor.
The fact is we owe slightly more to JAPAN than to CHINA.
ARE YOU STARTING TO REALIZE WE ARE BEING FED FALSE INFORMATION??????????????
FOR THE BIG LIE-JAPAN AND CHINA TOGETHER HOLD 20% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT-SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT.
YOU TRUSTED OUR GOVERNMENT TO HOLD THE MONEY YOU WERE FORCED TO SEND TO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR, AT LEAST FOR ME, 45 YEARS AND THEY SPENT IT.

YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN A FAR BETTER DEAL THAN SOCIAL SECURITY WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE AND FOR FAR LESS COST. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

First this post is pretty much copied from one or two websites, mostly Progressives.com. That alone is noteworthy but the information supplied is about 3 years old. Basically, it is one of those websites that BOTH conservative and liberal sites produce to market their own propaganda. The kind of website that is used simply to help you feel better about your allegiance and light in facts....lies of omission are common.

Our national debt is complicated but since the subject was FOREIGN debt, I will cut and paste reference the foreign debt but really suggest, you give the entire thing a read. This is a link, I believe to be accurate and current (Nov 21 2016)

"China owns $1.157 trillion U.S. debt. As of September 2016, it was the largest foreign holder. Japan is next, holding $1.136 trillion. Both Japan and China want to keep the value of the dollar high when compared to their currencies. That helps their exports to the United States seem more affordable, which helps their economies grow. That's why, despite China's occasional threats to sell its holdings, both countries are happy to be America's biggest foreign bankers. China replaced the United Kingdom as the second largest foreign holder on May 31, 2007. That's when it increased its holdings to $699 billion, outpacing the United Kingdom's $640 billion.

Ireland is third, holding $270 billion. The Cayman Islands is fourth, at $262 billion. Luxembourg is seventh ($227 billion), and Belgium is eleventh ($142 billion). The Bureau of International Settlements believes all three are fronts for sovereign wealth funds and hedge funds that don't want to reveal their positions.

Brazil is the fifth largest holder at $258 billion. The next largest holders are Switzerland, the UK, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and India. They each hold between $122 - $240 billion each. (Source: Foreign Holding of U.S. Treasury Securities, October 18, 2016. "Petrodollars and Global Imbalances," U.S. Treasury, February 2006.) Data is from various reports that are released at different times. Therefore, the total may not add up to $19 trillion.

Who Owns the US National Debt? How Much Is Owed?

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Actual proof from a legitimate source...and not just someone's opinion?

Here's a good start for you. I'm sure you can find the numerous other legitimate (nonFake news) sources. This one is right from the Feds.

Find out what immigration statuses qualify for coverage in the Health Insurance Marketplace. | HealthCare.gov

CA recently opened access to anyone with a CA drivers license - illegal or not.


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