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golfing eagles 08-28-2024 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365029)
OMG! The conspiracy never ends. 🫣🫒🀭

One question, if I may. What makes you so certain that you aren't the one being controlled, 2364940? πŸ€–

Because I wear my tin foil hat 24/7 :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 08-28-2024 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365039)
I'm pretty sure that some folks can look up a list of symptoms and realize that they should go get checked out by a doctor and not just ignore said symptoms. Pretty good diagnosis for a layman, what? 🫠

Wouldn't recommend that route

golfing eagles 08-28-2024 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365051)
How did you get out of that straight jacket? You're getting pretty slippery. Now, put the conspiracy down and come with the nice men in their clean white coats. They will give you ice-cream.
πŸ˜πŸ˜‰

Chocolate???? Oh, no, ice cream??? It will melt from global warming (but no faster than 500 years ago)

golfing eagles 08-28-2024 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365055)
Everyone has an agenda. Every group has an agenda. We'll, maybe not the village idiot. (Come on. You know you want to. Like shooting fish in a barrel with a ak-47.) πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜πŸ˜‰

Too easy---not worth typing it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

blueash 08-28-2024 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365049)
As for me, I provide government data -- such as the below altered temperature graph. It's all NOAA data, freely downloadable by anyone who dares to look.

What is the source of the graph you are posting. It is not shown, just as Data DTG a google image search did not find that image.

I am interesting seeing the evidence of how it was created, the person who created it. and not interested in going to a club. I am sure you will provide me the link

sounding 08-28-2024 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2365066)
What is the source of the graph you are posting. It is not shown, just as Data DTG a google image search did not find that image.

I am interesting seeing the evidence of how it was created, the person who created it. and not interested in going to a club. I am sure you will provide me the link

Here is the NOAA website ... Index of /pub/data/ushcn/v2.5

NOAA updates the data on a daily basis -- at seen by the DTG data.

Anyone with basic computer skills can download, parse, and plot the data like I did. Tony did the same many years ago - and still produces and shows same graphs. Here is just one of Tony's hundreds of related videos - if you dare to watch ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnmzOeG_N64

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365037)
It's not? How much did man-made CO2 warm the earth last year?

I told you once! 🀨

sounding 08-29-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365136)
I told you once! 🀨

I asked for the science that created your answer. Please provide.

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2365062)
Too easy---not worth typing it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Fair enough! πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰πŸ˜€

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365140)
I asked for the science that created your answer. Please provide.

Anyone with basic computer skills can look it up. My skills are basic and I found it a while back. Once was enough.

LeRoySmith 08-29-2024 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365037)
It's not? How much did man-made CO2 warm the earth last year?

1.4 deg f and I can prove it.

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2365155)
1.4 deg f and I can prove it.

My result, if I remember correctly, was a bit less. But be forewarned that your sources will be rebuked, ridiculed and vilified and summarily cast aside. They don't really want anything that counters their viewpoint. Been there, done that!

Taltarzac725 08-29-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2365155)
1.4 deg f and I can prove it.

I googled that and got a NASA website.

sounding 08-29-2024 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365177)
My result, if I remember correctly, was a bit less. But be forewarned that your sources will be rebuked, ridiculed and vilified and summarily cast aside. They don't really want anything that counters their viewpoint. Been there, done that!

This is a public service announcement. All will note that no one can provide a peer-reviewed answer to my question ... how much has man-made CO2 warmed the earth last year. Whereas anyone can easily find out how much CO2 concentrations have changed each year - and even each month ... but not the man-made warming part -- and yet climate alarmists know with great certainty it exists. Ha. This is no different than the Spaniards encouraging folks to visit the New World and enjoy the Fountain of Youth. It's all a hoax.

LeRoySmith 08-29-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365212)
This is a public service announcement. All will note that no one can provide a peer-reviewed answer to my question ... how much has man-made CO2 warmed the earth last year. Whereas anyone can easily find out how much CO2 concentrations have changed each year - and even each month ... but not the man-made warming part -- and yet climate alarmists know with great certainty it exists. Ha. This is no different than the Spaniards encouraging folks to visit the New World and enjoy the Fountain of Youth. It's all a hoax.

Please see post 211

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365212)
This is a public service announcement. All will note that no one can provide a peer-reviewed answer to my question ... how much has man-made CO2 warmed the earth last year. Whereas anyone can easily find out how much CO2 concentrations have changed each year - and even each month ... but not the man-made warming part -- and yet climate alarmists know with great certainty it exists. Ha. This is no different than the Spaniards encouraging folks to visit the New World and enjoy the Fountain of Youth. It's all a hoax.

Public service announcement. No one can provide a peer reviewed answer to how much wood a woodchuck chucks .....
One needs to figure out the exact .. what's the point when it's already been done by several accredited groups of serious scientists, whose results have been peer reviewed and published world wide. You are going to dismiss it all as hoax and scam anyway. Why bother spoon feeding a stubborn person who is just going to spit it out and scream it's poison. And, as far as peer reviews, the only "peers" you will believe are the ones who back your position.
πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ™„

sounding 08-29-2024 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365219)
Public service announcement. No one can provide a peer reviewed answer to how much wood a woodchuck chucks .....
One needs to figure out the exact .. what's the point when it's already been done by several accredited groups of serious scientists, whose results have been peer reviewed and published world wide. You are going to dismiss it all as hoax and scam anyway. Why bother spoon feeding a stubborn person who is just going to spit it out and scream it's poison. And, as far as peer reviews, the only "peers" you will believe are the ones who back your position.
πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ™„

As I said ... all narrative - and no data.

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365222)
As I said ... all narrative - and no data.

And, as I said ... you have been given and have access to all factual, peer reviewed data published by the world's leading scientists, and have consistently turned your back on their findings and conclusions because they are saying what you don’t want to hear. Reality/truth, my friend, is not always what we want it to be.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2364988)
:bowdown:

They do not seem to be too open minded do they! We are right and if we say it enough, say it loud and belittle people who do not agree 100% with what we say it makes us right.

Agreed !!!!!

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364993)
Yep, 45 degrees, we all believe that

If a person goes to that graph and believes their own eyes, then they WOULD have to believe that. We have all heard the expression that a picture is worth a thousand words. Then just PICTURE that graph.......made by REAL climate scientists, not weather-want-to-be-s.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2364997)
I am a member, and I drive a Tesla. Do you? $100 says you don't respond.

I responded, so send me that $100 check. And congratulations for doing your part (owning an E-vehicle). That will help to limit CO2 emissions. As more people drive E-vehicles and golf carts we can stop this runaway HEAT saturation of the Earth. Thanks for doing your part.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2365000)
Main stream media lying. You know it is very easy to check facts.

The top universities I expect deal with facts most of the time. Some of these facts are measures involving global warming. And their theories usually cover the facts fairly well.

I agree and that DATA should keep our FRIENDS that always mention DATA happy.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365010)
Facts? The Weather Club does not follow consensus, or science, or facts. Instead, the Club follows data ... but only unaltered data ... because the many media and many universities use altered data. Guess why.

Facts are pretty synonymous with data. I would say the data is numerical and facts can be expressed verbally.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 12:58 PM

I don't think it is ALL over the world - maybe in the US. The problem with the whole SUBJECT of Global Warming is that the OIL companies play (hide the ball) so as to obscure their DIRECT involvement in the PROBLEM which is changing the Earth's climate. The average person does NOT care about Climate Change ( to them it is not changing). It is far down on their list of problems. They don't care if the Alaskan crab harvest has become ZERO. Or if the Alaskan and Russian TUNDRA have become unfrozen and centuries old mercury deposits and ancient diseases MAY be released. Or if the world's Coral reefs are down to about 20% of what they were 10 years ago.
...........Only Climate Scientists know these and MANY other things going SOUTH over the Earth. And most people are ignoring the Scientists. And ever some people are saying that they should be ignored.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365049)
As for me, I provide government data -- such as the below altered temperature graph. It's all NOAA data, freely downloadable by anyone who dares to look.

MUST I be forced to REPEAT myself? Only temperature data for the past 30 years matters. The 10 warmest years on record (temp records are about 150 year old) are from 2014 to 2023.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365051)
How did you get out of that straight jacket? You're getting pretty slippery. Now, put the conspiracy down and come with the nice men in their clean white coats. They will give you ice-cream.
πŸ˜πŸ˜‰

That ranks up there in the top 10 of humorous posts!!!!!

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2365066)
What is the source of the graph you are posting. It is not shown, just as Data DTG a google image search did not find that image.

I am interesting seeing the evidence of how it was created, the person who created it. and not interested in going to a club. I am sure you will provide me the link

I believe that those charts come from a book titled, "Fun With Squiggly Lines".

sounding 08-29-2024 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2365268)
MUST I be forced to REPEAT myself? Only temperature data for the past 30 years matters. The 10 warmest years on record (temp records are about 150 year old) are from 2014 to 2023.

I don't care how about temp rise -- only about how much man-made CO2 caused. Do you know?

Normal 08-29-2024 01:32 PM

Maybe We Get One
 
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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365276)
I don't care how about temp rise -- only about how much man-made CO2 caused. Do you know?

We might get one hurricane this season? Certainly don’t rely of government agency predictions, they are never right.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365069)
Here is the NOAA website ... Index of /pub/data/ushcn/v2.5

NOAA updates the data on a daily basis -- at seen by the DTG data.

Anyone with basic computer skills can download, parse, and plot the data like I did. Tony did the same many years ago - and still produces and shows same graphs. Here is just one of Tony's hundreds of related videos - if you dare to watch ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnmzOeG_N64

I dared to watch and saw some guys squiggly lines that were different from Government lines.

sounding 08-29-2024 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2365279)
We might get one hurricane this season? Certainly don’t rely of government agency predictions, they are never right.

Even since the Tonga eruption, they have gotten nearly everything wrong - which will be discussed on Sep 6 at 4 PM at Lake Miona. So called "climate scientists" are bewildered why there is now monsoons over Africa, the equatorial Atlantic is suddenly cooling, northwest snows are early, and much more -- which are all in response to Tonga -- where Mother Nature is using earth's air/ocean mechanisms to counter Tonga's unprecedented global warming. Nature has its own self-correction mechanisms. It's fascinating to watch -- but the media won't look.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365276)
I don't care how about temp rise -- only about how much man-made CO2 caused. Do you know?

Man-made was the majority cause (over 90%) of the CO2. The Tonga, Tonga, Tonga volcano was NOT A FACTOR. The graph of the rise of Earth temperature for the last 30 years can be seen as about the same when compare to the rise of population in the same time frame. You want DATA ......those graphs are your accurate DATA POINTS. A person could take a bath in that much data. But, it is saying that the Earth is HEATING UP AT A dangerous rate. People in Texas and all over the US including Florida are DYING at an increased rate in the last 3 years. ANYONE can easily look up this FACT-----------THE 10 WARMEST years on World recorded history have occurred from 2014 to 2023. ANY (I mean any) human being can look that up and they should become AFRAID. They should then do more research and find that in recent years the land and oceans are heating up. World human population has increased rapidly in the last 30 years and it has caused this HEATING. More people mean more industrial and automobile Pollution. This pollution causes HEAT TO RADIATE back to the Earth when in years past it would go harmlessly into space.
......As long as the world produces mostly internal combustion vehicles, the Earth will HEAT up. Not a good FUTURE for mankind.

sounding 08-29-2024 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2365289)
Man-made was the majority cause (over 90%) of the CO2. The Tonga, Tonga, Tonga volcano was NOT A FACTOR. The graph of the rise of Earth temperature for the last 30 years can be seen as about the same when compare to the rise of population in the same time frame. You want DATA ......those graphs are your accurate DATA POINTS. A person could take a bath in that much data. But, it is saying that the Earth is HEATING UP AT A dangerous rate. People in Texas and all over the US including Florida are DYING at an increased rate in the last 3 years. ANYONE can easily look up this FACT-----------THE 10 WARMEST years on World recorded history have occurred from 2014 to 2023. ANY (I mean any) human being can look that up and they should become AFRAID. They should then do more research and find that in recent years the land and oceans are heating up. World human population has increased rapidly in the last 30 years and it has caused this HEATING. More people mean more industrial and automobile Pollution. This pollution causes HEAT TO RADIATE back to the Earth when in years past it would go harmlessly into space.
......As long as the world produces mostly internal combustion vehicles, the Earth will HEAT up. Not a good FUTURE for mankind.

For those who want Data versus Opinions >>> Sep 6 at 4 PM at Lake Minoa.

Pugchief 08-29-2024 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365052)
I can't afford a Tesla. My little Hyundai will have to do for now.

Sure you can. A new Model 3 basic will set you back just over $30k + tax after the tax credit.

But I was asking someone else, who always tells everyone how important EVs are to the environment, but is unwilling to put his money where his mouth is.

jimjamuser 08-29-2024 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2365279)
We might get one hurricane this season? Certainly don’t rely of government agency predictions, they are never right.

Sahara dust has been stopping the growth of Hurricanes recently, but the dust is stopping.

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365276)
I don't care how about temp rise -- only about how much man-made CO2 caused. Do you know?

Still at it, I see. Change the channel, play a different tune. Give the old one a rest, it's really getting tired.
By the way, I'm pretty sure he does know, but doesn't want to give you targets for ridicule. I will give 4 hints. 1. Open eyes. 2. Open mind. 3. Suspend your disbelief.
4. Search!
"Seek and ye shall find!" I have faith in you! πŸ™‚πŸ™‚πŸ™‚

sounding 08-29-2024 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2365334)
Sahara dust has been stopping the growth of Hurricanes recently, but the dust is stopping.

Notice that the media won't say why the hurricanes are reluctant to appear in what was promised to be an epic storm year, and they won't say why the Sahara now has monsoon-like weather -- all unprecedented events. Anyone want to venture why this is?

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2365299)
Sure you can. A new Model 3 basic will set you back just over $30k + tax after the tax credit.

But I was asking someone else, who always tells everyone how important EVs are to the environment, but is unwilling to put his money where his mouth is.

There are other technologies that I prefer that are nearly ready. I said I drive a Hyundai, but never said if it was ice or ev. You assumed it was ice. Lucky! But I have cut the miles I drive x10. Quit traveling and conserve every way I can. If, I can still drive when the H2O engine come to the market, I'm in!
Full disclosure. I own a share of oil land and get a small amount in compensation for oil and natural gas. I'm definitely not an oil baron. So, one might think I would be on the side of big oil. I enjoy the monthly check, but I have no control of the extraction. But just because I enjoy some benefit does not blind me to the harm that big oil, and all the rest of the habitat destroyers do.
For me the 30k you mentioned is, sadly, a deal breaker. But if I could swap ice straight across, it would already have happened.

fdpaq0580 08-29-2024 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2365291)
For those who want Data versus Opinions >>> Sep 6 at 4 PM at Lake Minoa.

Toga vs Tonga. Cute.

MorTech 08-30-2024 01:57 AM

Only a grade school dropout believes CO2 causes global temperature rise...How about humidity?
CO2 is a molecular gas...It can't hold heat. Come on, this is 5th grade AP/9th grade normie stuff.


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