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LeRoySmith 08-28-2024 02:39 PM

I was considering attending a weather club cause I enjoyed climate/weather classes in college but after reading a couple of these threads I think it's not a great idea.

sounding 08-28-2024 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2364974)
Read the EPA topic, "What Climate Change means for Alaska". "People have increased the amount of CO2 in tha air by 40% since 1800". "CO2 reacts with water to form Carbonic acid". "The Oceans have become more acidic" (that is why the Coral reefs are DYING)

Increasing CO2 means nothing -- unless you can tell me how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year? But I can tell you it helps put food on the table for you. Enjoy your "carbon" intake -- for we all are carbon-based life-forms.

sounding 08-28-2024 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2364975)
I was considering attending a weather club cause I enjoyed climate/weather classes in college but after reading a couple of these threads I think it's not a great idea.

That's fine. There are more cases where standing room only is happening. Save seats for those who really want to know data vs narratives. You'd be surprised to know how many are registering for monthly talk announcements -- and they are still up north. Plus, those announcements also provide information about talks given outside the Weather Club -- which are the majority of the talks -- and as far as Gainesville, FL.

jimjamuser 08-28-2024 02:57 PM

See NORA Climate.gov ......article titled Global Average Surface Temperatures
......the graph starts to rise in 1970 and goes up to 2020 at about a 45 deg increase.
.......The 10 warmest years in the modern historic record have occured from 2014 to 2023

sounding 08-28-2024 03:10 PM

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See NORA Climate.gov ......article titled Global Average Surface Temperatures
......the graph starts to rise in 1970 and goes up to 2020 at about a 45 deg increase.
.......The 10 warmest years in the modern historic record have occured from 2014 to 2023

Correct. Those who attend the Weather Club already know about ocean warming, and they know what caused it -- and it wasn't CO2. If you don't want to attend the club talks, then you can read about.

sounding 08-28-2024 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2364975)
I was considering attending a weather club cause I enjoyed climate/weather classes in college but after reading a couple of these threads I think it's not a great idea.

You'd be surprised to know how many high-school teachers attend club meetings remembering what they thought they knew back then, compared to what science tells us today. They already what climate propaganda says -- so come to hear what climate data actually says.

eyc234 08-28-2024 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2364975)
I was considering attending a weather club cause I enjoyed climate/weather classes in college but after reading a couple of these threads I think it's not a great idea.

:bowdown:

They do not seem to be too open minded do they! We are right and if we say it enough, say it loud and belittle people who do not agree 100% with what we say it makes us right.

sounding 08-28-2024 03:29 PM

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:bowdown:

They do not seem to be too open minded do they! We are right and if we say it enough, say it loud and belittle people who do not agree 100% with what we say it makes us right.

You miss the point. It's not about what someone says --- it's about what the data says. Anyone can say anything -- they are called narratives. Social media are full of narratives, opinions etc ... but at the Weather Club "data" are presented - where folks can make up their own mind - apply some critical thinking - and become individuals versus part of a group-think.

golfing eagles 08-28-2024 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2364983)
See NORA Climate.gov ......article titled Global Average Surface Temperatures
......the graph starts to rise in 1970 and goes up to 2020 at about a 45 deg increase.
.......The 10 warmest years in the modern historic record have occured from 2014 to 2023

Yep, 45 degrees, we all believe that

Pugchief 08-28-2024 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2364968)
I wonder how many Weather Club members drive to the meetings in either an E- car,truck,or golf car ?

I am a member, and I drive a Tesla. Do you? $100 says you don't respond.

Pugchief 08-28-2024 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2364965)
So if you don't believe that "news is real". Like you then believe that NASA Astronauts NEVER walked on the moon? I would hate to think like that. Everything would be a LIE.

Not everything is a lie. Just most of what comes from the MSM. If you don't see that after 2020, I can't help you.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2024 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2364998)
Not everything is a lie. Just most of what comes from the MSM. If you don't see that after 2020, I can't help you.

Main stream media lying. You know it is very easy to check facts.

The top universities I expect deal with facts most of the time. Some of these facts are measures involving global warming. And their theories usually cover the facts fairly well.

golfing eagles 08-28-2024 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2365000)
Main stream media lying. You know it is very easy to check facts.

The top universities I expect deal with facts most of the time. Some of these facts are measures involving global warming. And their theories usually cover the facts fairly well.

Especially if their livelihood depends on it

sounding 08-28-2024 04:56 PM

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Main stream media lying. You know it is very easy to check facts.

The top universities I expect deal with facts most of the time. Some of these facts are measures involving global warming. And their theories usually cover the facts fairly well.

Facts? The Weather Club does not follow consensus, or science, or facts. Instead, the Club follows data ... but only unaltered data ... because the many media and many universities use altered data. Guess why.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2024 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2365008)
Especially if their livelihood depends on it

Science does not work that way. Now big oil probably does.

You have so many bones in your body. 206. If some business says we now have so-and-so number then research will be done to see what happened. Or course, there are minute variations in number of bones from individual to individual. Some may have fused together.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364870)
It is when it's a giant scam to bilk the world out of $168 TRILLION by telling lies, manipulating scientists and influencing governments. Did your oncology team's agenda include lies and false data?????

Sounds like big oil to me.
As far as my oncology team is concerned, I will never really know. Did I really need that much chemo? Could the radiation really need to be that severe? Maybe? Maybe it would have been better to just pray on it and it would just magically disappear? Nope, I'll never really know. But I trust my highly trained medical team over traveling sideshow healer.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364895)
Care to repeat that answer, or at least point us to the thread that contained it? Maybe my memory is failing, but I don't ever recall seeing a legitimate answer to his question.

Two or three threads back. Maybe more. Finding the thread and post # would be too much trouble only to see the results again rebuked, ridiculed along with the resources I used. When the authorities in any field are rebuked and ridiculed and their findings cast aside by individuals who have a bent toward denial of anything that contradicts their own narrative, it becomes apparent that those folks care more about protecting said narrative than truth regardless of what the consequences may be.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364908)
Absolutely!!!!!

I will have to paraphrase, but the essence of the quote from Moses to Ramses in "The Ten Commandments" is:

"Out of his own mouth come the words by which thy judgement is chosen"

Great movie! Imho.

TimTinNewell 08-28-2024 05:48 PM

Why is the topic of "Global Warming" so neatly divided down political lines?

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2364909)
Again ... all talk and no data. For those who want data - come to the Weather Club.

Again ... you have full access to data, but you choose to turn your back on it, reject it, ridicule it and the ones who supply it because it does not support your narrative.

golfing eagles 08-28-2024 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2365011)
Science does not work that way. Now big oil probably does.

You have so many bones in your body. 206. If some business says we now have so-and-so number then research will be done to see what happened. Or course, there are minute variations in number of bones from individual to individual. Some may have fused together.

Science doesn't work that way. Politics does. Those with an agenda do.

golfing eagles 08-28-2024 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365017)
Two or three threads back. Maybe more. Finding the thread and post # would be too much trouble only to see the results again rebuked, ridiculed along with the resources I used. When the authorities in any field are rebuked and ridiculed and their findings cast aside by individuals who have a bent toward denial of anything that contradicts their own narrative, it becomes apparent that those folks care more about protecting said narrative than truth regardless of what the consequences may be.

Mirror, mirror on the wall..........

sounding 08-28-2024 06:17 PM

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Again ... you have full access to data, but you choose to turn your back on it, reject it, ridicule it and the ones who supply it because it does not support your narrative.

I have the data. I just ignore the corrupt data. Find out more at next month's Weather Club talk ... if you dare to see what is really happening ... The Villages Weather Club

Taltarzac725 08-28-2024 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2365011)
Science does not work that way. Now big oil probably does.

You have so many bones in your body. 206. If some business says we now have so-and-so number then research will be done to see what happened. Or course, there are minute variations in number of bones from individual to individual. Some may have fused together.

Deadpool & Wolverine



"There are 206 bones in the human body, 207 if I'm watching Gossip Girl".


Unusual humans may have slightly different numbers of bones. Check out the Great Courses How We Move: The Gross Anatomy of Motion . This is by Elizabeth A. Murray.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364940)
They are not conspiring; they are being controlled.

It's sort of like all those years when a pilot reporting a UFO would be ostracized, so they said nothing. If they were told to say they saw a weather balloon, they would if the alternative was being unemployed.

OMG! The conspiracy never ends. 🫣🫒🀭

One question, if I may. What makes you so certain that you aren't the one being controlled, 2364940? πŸ€–

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2364954)
This about sums it up...

If that sums it up, the sum is Scott Adam's is a 2 year old throwing a tantrum while his fingers are in his ears.
Tw0 reasonable adults can always have a conversation. Always.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364967)
Not everything. But anthropogenic global warming is, and a BIG one

No it's not. πŸ˜ƒ Tag! You're it!

sounding 08-28-2024 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365034)
No it's not. πŸ˜ƒ Tag! You're it!

It's not? How much did man-made CO2 warm the earth last year?

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364966)
Yes and Yes :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

So, just where do you think Wikipedia and google get their information form?

Yes--the same climatologists that are dependent upon governments and universities to survive.

It reminds me of those fools that think they can do a google search and diagnose their own illnesses

I'm pretty sure that some folks can look up a list of symptoms and realize that they should go get checked out by a doctor and not just ignore said symptoms. Pretty good diagnosis for a layman, what? 🫠

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2364971)
US HEAT deaths......In 2023 the US saw 2302 HEAT-related deaths compared with 1722 in 2022 and 1602 in 2021.

Only deaths from cold counts. Like the death that occurred when an ice cave melted and collapsed. Killed by the cold.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2364972)
It doesn't matter how they get there. They come for data -- not narratives. They know what you think you know and what you don't know.

Do they also know what you think you know and what you don’t know? Just asking.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2364972)
It doesn't matter how they get there. They come for data -- not narratives. They know what you think you know and what you don't know.

What data do you give them? Internationally proven, or just weather club approved? And no narratives?

Asking for a friend.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2024 07:35 PM

Check out the Great Courses on Global Warming.

sounding 08-28-2024 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365043)
Do they also know what you think you know and what you don’t know? Just asking.

Correct -- that's the idea. We present data and think about what it means -- versus blind and unthinking acceptance of narratives -- like the fake man-made climate change narrative. During Q&A sessions everyone is given opportunity to think out loud -- which why sometimes the Q&A session goes longer than the talk. It's a wonderful experience. Try it - you'll like.

sounding 08-28-2024 07:40 PM

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What data do you give them? Internationally proven, or just weather club approved? And no narratives?

Asking for a friend.

As for me, I provide government data -- such as the below altered temperature graph. It's all NOAA data, freely downloadable by anyone who dares to look.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364993)
Yep, 45 degrees, we all believe that

No you don't. Not if you're the real golfing eagles. You can't fool me. πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜‰

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2365008)
Especially if their livelihood depends on it

How did you get out of that straight jacket? You're getting pretty slippery. Now, put the conspiracy down and come with the nice men in their clean white coats. They will give you ice-cream.
πŸ˜πŸ˜‰

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2364997)
I am a member, and I drive a Tesla. Do you? $100 says you don't respond.

I can't afford a Tesla. My little Hyundai will have to do for now.

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TimTinNewell (Post 2365020)
Why is the topic of "Global Warming" so neatly divided down political lines?

Gee. I wonder? πŸ€”πŸ€”

fdpaq0580 08-28-2024 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2365024)
Science doesn't work that way. Politics does. Those with an agenda do.

Everyone has an agenda. Every group has an agenda. We'll, maybe not the village idiot. (Come on. You know you want to. Like shooting fish in a barrel with a ak-47.) πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜πŸ˜‰


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