I'll grant that heroes and villains are all too often defined by who wins the war, whether that war is fought on the ground, in the air or in media.

But, substance-wise, I pretty much put Al Gore's bloviating about the environment on a par with Libya, back in 2015, being named to chair the UN Human Rights Commission.

You mean the same UN that is bloviating about global warming as well??????

One and the same.

Because it's a foolish question? Hey, you asked. 🙂

No, his question is the essence of the controversy. And the fact that nobody can answer it proves that the global warming narrative is a scam

The horse you rode in on? Poor horse. 🥲

Fun, huh!

Every one, every organization has an "agenda". Having a purpose and plan of action doesn't make it wrong. The medical team that presided over my cancer treatment had an agenda. I'm glad they did. Even The Villages weather club has an agenda. Go figure.

The Villages Weather Club sounds like one person putting his opinions about global warming out there as established facts.

Which go against most of the existing ideas about global warming among the scientific community.

That's so I can understand.

:pepper2:

It is when it's a giant scam to bilk the world out of $168 TRILLION by telling lies, manipulating scientists and influencing governments. Did your oncology team's agenda include lies and false data?????

And how many times have we explained that the "scientific community" has been bought and paid for by those few who stand to make trillions if the world buys into their scam

You wouldn't believe it, so why bother. 🫤

Nope! Just normal human failing called greed!

Aww, c'mon---give us one, please---pretty please---cherry on top

And while at it, give us the amount of global warming caused by man-made CO2 as well---there's an extra cherry in it :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But I did answer him several threads back. He chose to ignore it, just like most real science. Consequently, he is not likely to get an answer from any reputable source, or me (less reputable, but pretty certain of what I found). 🙃🫠😉

Care to repeat that answer, or at least point us to the thread that contained it? Maybe my memory is failing, but I don't ever recall seeing a legitimate answer to his question.

Claiming an agenda without supporting data is baseless. Those who have climate claims are welcome to present their supporting data at the Club. In fact, many Club attendees come not for the talks, but come just to watch the Q&A sessions after the talks -- to watch the variety of interesting Claims-versus-Data debates.

Certain groups, cults, etc, generally believe that their opinions are facts/truth. Don't hate the genuinely misguided. They are generally sincere. But wrong. Don't be baffled by their bs. It is the wall that protects their fantasy from a violent and ever changing universe.

Absolutely!!!!!

I will have to paraphrase, but the essence of the quote from Moses to Ramses in "The Ten Commandments" is:

"Out of his own mouth come the words by which thy judgement is chosen"

Again ... all talk and no data. For those who want data - come to the Weather Club.

I don't see a date on that diagram........but, I notice that 16% is absorbed by the atmosphere. Then likely (beginning 30 years ago) that absorbed atmosphere heat began reflecting (refracting back). Anyway, all solar heat is NOT sent off into space after striking the Earth. Some is radiating BACK to the Earth in the last 30 years. and that explains the melting glaciers, dying king crabs in Alaska, dying coral reefs, dying animal species, and basically, a S-L-O-W-L-Y dying EARTH. Since the oceans are warmer (in the last 30 years) the air worldwide has MORE moisture in it - therefore more rain. Anchorage, Alaska has had so much rain that 1/2 of a whole hillside in the city washed away and destroyed homes (and may have killed some people). The TUNDRA in Alaska and Russia is NO LONGER frozen and is threatening MANY buildings and scientists are worried that centuries-old bacteria may be released, also mercury. All because of too many people driving too many automobiles around the world.
.....Note ....apparently the 2 poles are fighting EVEN MORE Climate Change than our temperate zone.

I can't believe that sssssooo many Scientists would be involved in a mass conspiracy. But I am aware that MANY people are suspicious of big government. So, I will just see it as "agreeing to disagree".

Interesting that INCREASED drilling for OIL could be interpreted as a good thing. South America has a lot of problems, but I would doubt that their middle class and lower classes would EVER get much benefit. One effect of those drilling rig is they tend to BURN OFF a lot of pumped up oil. That will send MORE CO2 into the upper atmosphere which will reflect more HEAT to our already OVERHEATED planet.

Exactly.

Actually, it is the oil and gas industry (in their LAST FUTILE gasps) fighting against the whole Scientific community. Right now the oil and gas industry are winning, BUT in 50 years when 50% of Americans are driving ELECTRIC VEHICLES, the FUTURE will be electric and oil will only be used for making materials and medicine.

They are not conspiring; they are being controlled.

It's sort of like all those years when a pilot reporting a UFO would be ostracized, so they said nothing. If they were told to say they saw a weather balloon, they would if the alternative was being unemployed.

In the last 30 years---and 300 years, and 3,000 and 3 million and 3 billion. Physics doesn't change, the political application of it does.

I would say that 90 % of global Warming is man made. Just compare a graph of World wide temperature rise with a graph of world population increase in the last 50 years. Climate Scientists are warning that it is man-made.

Based on WHAT?????

Propaganda from the UN?
Idiotic predictions from guru Gore?
"Warnings" from climatologists who depend on government grants and universities for a living????
The fallacy that CO2 is the major greenhouse gas???
Or did it come in a dream? A roll of the dice?? A sci-fi novel??? A visit to Fantasyland?

This about sums it up...

Based on a simple Google search. Click Wikipedia because they have the best Climate information. Oh NO! I have opened a can of worms. Soon someone will be telling me the Wikipedia is a bunch of leftist commie sympathizers And rabbits attract ice storms to solar panels.

So if you don't believe that "news is real". Like you then believe that NASA Astronauts NEVER walked on the moon? I would hate to think like that. Everything would be a LIE.

Yes and Yes :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

So, just where do you think Wikipedia and google get their information form?

Yes--the same climatologists that are dependent upon governments and universities to survive.

It reminds me of those fools that think they can do a google search and diagnose their own illnesses

Not everything. But anthropogenic global warming is, and a BIG one

I wonder how many Weather Club members drive to the meetings in either an E- car,truck,or golf car ?

Based on what those 2 graphs are telling people. The Earth temperatures have RISEN in the last 30 years in direct proportion to world wide population. More people more automobiles and golf carts equals more CO2 production equals more refracted (reflected) HEAT BACK to the Earth equals more miserable summer HEAT, which is causing RECORD heat deaths in 2023 and 2024.

US HEAT deaths......In 2023 the US saw 2302 HEAT-related deaths compared with 1722 in 2022 and 1602 in 2021.

It doesn't matter how they get there. They come for data -- not narratives. They know what you think you know and what you don't know.

Read the EPA topic, "What Climate Change means for Alaska". "People have increased the amount of CO2 in tha air by 40% since 1800". "CO2 reacts with water to form Carbonic acid". "The Oceans have become more acidic" (that is why the Coral reefs are DYING)