[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

How did you get out of that straight jacket? You're getting pretty slippery. Now, put the conspiracy down and come with the nice men in their clean white coats. They will give you ice-cream.
😁😉

That ranks up there in the top 10 of humorous posts!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

What is the source of the graph you are posting. It is not shown, just as Data DTG a google image search did not find that image.

I am interesting seeing the evidence of how it was created, the person who created it. and not interested in going to a club. I am sure you will provide me the link

I believe that those charts come from a book titled, "Fun With Squiggly Lines".

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

MUST I be forced to REPEAT myself? Only temperature data for the past 30 years matters. The 10 warmest years on record (temp records are about 150 year old) are from 2014 to 2023.

I don't care how about temp rise -- only about how much man-made CO2 caused. Do you know?

[Normal]

Originally Posted by sounding

I don't care how about temp rise -- only about how much man-made CO2 caused. Do you know?

We might get one hurricane this season? Certainly don’t rely of government agency predictions, they are never right.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Here is the NOAA website ... Index of /pub/data/ushcn/v2.5

NOAA updates the data on a daily basis -- at seen by the DTG data.

Anyone with basic computer skills can download, parse, and plot the data like I did. Tony did the same many years ago - and still produces and shows same graphs. Here is just one of Tony's hundreds of related videos - if you dare to watch ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnmzOeG_N64

I dared to watch and saw some guys squiggly lines that were different from Government lines.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Normal

We might get one hurricane this season? Certainly don’t rely of government agency predictions, they are never right.

Even since the Tonga eruption, they have gotten nearly everything wrong - which will be discussed on Sep 6 at 4 PM at Lake Miona. So called "climate scientists" are bewildered why there is now monsoons over Africa, the equatorial Atlantic is suddenly cooling, northwest snows are early, and much more -- which are all in response to Tonga -- where Mother Nature is using earth's air/ocean mechanisms to counter Tonga's unprecedented global warming. Nature has its own self-correction mechanisms. It's fascinating to watch -- but the media won't look.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

I don't care how about temp rise -- only about how much man-made CO2 caused. Do you know?

Man-made was the majority cause (over 90%) of the CO2. The Tonga, Tonga, Tonga volcano was NOT A FACTOR. The graph of the rise of Earth temperature for the last 30 years can be seen as about the same when compare to the rise of population in the same time frame. You want DATA ......those graphs are your accurate DATA POINTS. A person could take a bath in that much data. But, it is saying that the Earth is HEATING UP AT A dangerous rate. People in Texas and all over the US including Florida are DYING at an increased rate in the last 3 years. ANYONE can easily look up this FACT-----------THE 10 WARMEST years on World recorded history have occurred from 2014 to 2023. ANY (I mean any) human being can look that up and they should become AFRAID. They should then do more research and find that in recent years the land and oceans are heating up. World human population has increased rapidly in the last 30 years and it has caused this HEATING. More people mean more industrial and automobile Pollution. This pollution causes HEAT TO RADIATE back to the Earth when in years past it would go harmlessly into space.
......As long as the world produces mostly internal combustion vehicles, the Earth will HEAT up. Not a good FUTURE for mankind.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Man-made was the majority cause (over 90%) of the CO2. The Tonga, Tonga, Tonga volcano was NOT A FACTOR. The graph of the rise of Earth temperature for the last 30 years can be seen as about the same when compare to the rise of population in the same time frame. You want DATA ......those graphs are your accurate DATA POINTS. A person could take a bath in that much data. But, it is saying that the Earth is HEATING UP AT A dangerous rate. People in Texas and all over the US including Florida are DYING at an increased rate in the last 3 years. ANYONE can easily look up this FACT-----------THE 10 WARMEST years on World recorded history have occurred from 2014 to 2023. ANY (I mean any) human being can look that up and they should become AFRAID. They should then do more research and find that in recent years the land and oceans are heating up. World human population has increased rapidly in the last 30 years and it has caused this HEATING. More people mean more industrial and automobile Pollution. This pollution causes HEAT TO RADIATE back to the Earth when in years past it would go harmlessly into space.
......As long as the world produces mostly internal combustion vehicles, the Earth will HEAT up. Not a good FUTURE for mankind.

For those who want Data versus Opinions >>> Sep 6 at 4 PM at Lake Minoa.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I can't afford a Tesla. My little Hyundai will have to do for now.

Sure you can. A new Model 3 basic will set you back just over $30k + tax after the tax credit.

But I was asking someone else, who always tells everyone how important EVs are to the environment, but is unwilling to put his money where his mouth is.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Normal

We might get one hurricane this season? Certainly don’t rely of government agency predictions, they are never right.

Sahara dust has been stopping the growth of Hurricanes recently, but the dust is stopping.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

I don't care how about temp rise -- only about how much man-made CO2 caused. Do you know?

Still at it, I see. Change the channel, play a different tune. Give the old one a rest, it's really getting tired.
By the way, I'm pretty sure he does know, but doesn't want to give you targets for ridicule. I will give 4 hints. 1. Open eyes. 2. Open mind. 3. Suspend your disbelief.
4. Search!
"Seek and ye shall find!" I have faith in you! 🙂🙂🙂

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Sahara dust has been stopping the growth of Hurricanes recently, but the dust is stopping.

Notice that the media won't say why the hurricanes are reluctant to appear in what was promised to be an epic storm year, and they won't say why the Sahara now has monsoon-like weather -- all unprecedented events. Anyone want to venture why this is?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Sure you can. A new Model 3 basic will set you back just over $30k + tax after the tax credit.

But I was asking someone else, who always tells everyone how important EVs are to the environment, but is unwilling to put his money where his mouth is.

There are other technologies that I prefer that are nearly ready. I said I drive a Hyundai, but never said if it was ice or ev. You assumed it was ice. Lucky! But I have cut the miles I drive x10. Quit traveling and conserve every way I can. If, I can still drive when the H2O engine come to the market, I'm in!
Full disclosure. I own a share of oil land and get a small amount in compensation for oil and natural gas. I'm definitely not an oil baron. So, one might think I would be on the side of big oil. I enjoy the monthly check, but I have no control of the extraction. But just because I enjoy some benefit does not blind me to the harm that big oil, and all the rest of the habitat destroyers do.
For me the 30k you mentioned is, sadly, a deal breaker. But if I could swap ice straight across, it would already have happened.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

For those who want Data versus Opinions >>> Sep 6 at 4 PM at Lake Minoa.

Toga vs Tonga. Cute.

[MorTech]

Only a grade school dropout believes CO2 causes global temperature rise...How about humidity?
CO2 is a molecular gas...It can't hold heat. Come on, this is 5th grade AP/9th grade normie stuff.