[sounding]

Thank you.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And again, > 90% of "climate scientists" owe their livelihood to the government or academia, so they will tow the party line or go hungry.

That IS a lot of VERY INTELLIGENT people that would have to be in some kind of group collusion that are somehow forced against their BETTER JUDGEMENT to make false statements. Really NOT even CLOSE to possible.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Records were made to be broken.

That's what my dad said when I got upset because he broke my new Bo Diddly record. 😵😵😵

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Exactly!!! NOW YOU GET IT!!!!!!

But in all fairness, the EPA may not be as stupid as they appear, since they are following a political and not scientific agenda

Heh. You pay some people enough, they'll make any sound you want them to make.

One Heidi Fleiss comes to mind...

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Most climate scientists have a choice of saying that or starving

Oh! Yeah! You've been trying to sell that one for a long while now. Doing well with it? Or considering
re-evaluating the evidence? Like to have you join me and the other "GOREganites". (Just made that up! Think it will catch on? Now, how to cash in on it? Big oil should love it. Maybe write a song?)

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Exactly!!! NOW YOU GET IT!!!!!!

But in all fairness, the EPA may not be as stupid as they appear, since they are following a political and not scientific agenda

Pot calling the kettle .....? Naw! You of all people wouldn't do that, would you? No! 😀🫠😉

[blueash]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And again, > 90% of "climate scientists" owe their livelihood to the government or academia, so they will tow the party line or go hungry.

And >90% of virologists and immunologists owe their livelihood to the government or academia or big pharma, so their conclusions about COVID must tow the party line or go hungry. Right? See how stupid that sounds when you actually know something about the field?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That IS a lot of VERY INTELLIGENT people that would have to be in some kind of group collusion that are somehow forced against their BETTER JUDGEMENT to make false statements. Really NOT even CLOSE to possible.

Really? That would seem to suggest some naivety as to how academia works, so here's the challenge:

Get a doctorate in climatology and a position at a university in the US. Then, apply for a research grant for your study to prove that global warming has nothing to do with human activity----see how much money the federal government gives you. (Hint---every single dollar the NSF gives for climate studies are for those studies that "prove" mankind is responsible for global warming, and the more imminent, the better). Then, maybe some benefactor who knows the truth that man has nothing to do with warming gives you the money for the study---and, as expected you conclusively prove that anthropogenic climate change is a myth and a scam. Now---try to get it published. Rotsa ruck. Then apply for tenure---even more ruck. You see, what you have done is commit professional suicide. No collusion required. Your family starves, your wife goes find one of the "90+%" of climatologists who realized that the only way to survive was by parroting the party line. And so the scam goes rolling along.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by blueash

And >90% of virologists and immunologists owe their livelihood to the government or academia or big pharma, so their conclusions about COVID must tow the party line or go hungry. Right? See how stupid that sounds when you actually know something about the field?

Unfortunately, you forget I know as much or more about the field than that post suggests

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Sure. We can invite all our friends and have a Tonga Party and dress up as water vapor and talk about global cooling and cool some brewskis to take as a peace offering to the Villages weather club and play DEVO records. And burn oil, gas and coal lamps and cut some firewood---------fun will be guaranteed for ALL.

Uh, why do we need a peace offering? Aren't we all friends already? And burning causes smoke that can be hazardous to health and is unnecessary wasteful. Brewskis sounds good, if we can recycle the bottles and make sure the waste products are treated to avoid polluting the local waterways. I could bring a lava lamp powered by a battery that is charged from a solar panel. Yeah! It will be great! 🤓🤓🤓

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That IS a lot of VERY INTELLIGENT people that would have to be in some kind of group collusion that are somehow forced against their BETTER JUDGEMENT to make false statements. Really NOT even CLOSE to possible.

But he knows that! But to acknowledge the truth now would be just too embarrassing.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Really? That would seem to suggest some naivety as to how academia works, so here's the challenge:

Get a doctorate in climatology and a position at a university in the US. Then, apply for a research grant for your study to prove that global warming has nothing to do with human activity----see how much money the federal government gives you. (Hint---every single dollar the NSF gives for climate studies are for those studies that "prove" mankind is responsible for global warming, and the more imminent, the better). Then, maybe some benefactor who knows the truth that man has nothing to do with warming gives you the money for the study---and, as expected you conclusively prove that anthropogenic climate change is a myth and a scam. Now---try to get it published. Rotsa ruck. Then apply for tenure---even more ruck. You see, what you have done is commit professional suicide. No collusion required. Your family starves, your wife goes find one of the "90+%" of climatologists who realized that the only way to survive was by parroting the party line. And so the scam goes rolling along.

Sounds like someone got a burr under his saddle blanket! 🤠🤠🤠

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Unfortunately, you forget I know as much or more about the field than that post suggests

Can't forget what we never knew.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That IS a lot of VERY INTELLIGENT people that would have to be in some kind of group collusion that are somehow forced against their BETTER JUDGEMENT to make false statements. Really NOT even CLOSE to possible.

It's not a lot of people who are scientifically corrupt, it's just those who control the narrative who are scientifically corrupt. (Remember Orwell's 1984 movie.) Overall, they are a minority. Just follow the money. Trillions are being funneled into the IPCC -- and yet they are not able to produce a single model that is able to replicate past climate change -- and thus all forecasts are bogus. It's a scam -- no different than a snake-oil salesman operation. Any still ... no one is able to provide evidence how much "man-made" CO2 warmed earth last year. Guess why.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Exactly. The climate is messy. That's why NONE of the UN's IPCC climate models have ever been able to create a model than predict climate change. Worse yet, NONE can even replicate past climate changes. The UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change) is a scam.

So, here I am being told to disregard the UN in favor of someone from a local weather club.And I am being told not to worry because the climate is NOT changing. Yet just the other day I read a story about Alaskan crab fisherman. The have lost their livelihoods because the water in their fishing area has gotten so warm that the crabs are all DEAD. Also on land in Russia and Alaska the permafrost layer in the ground is warming up to the point that Scientists (I know now that it is a HATED NAME) ......Scientists are worried that bacteria and diseases that have been frozen for many centuries will be released from under the NOT-SO-PERMANENTLY-frosted-permafrost !