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I read the hearing report from AP, and Sagan's original paper on the subject. I'm not seeing that he misled anyone. He gave his theory, supported it with the scientific data available at the time, and brought it to the most likely conclusion. That's what science is all about. You pose a question, do fact finding and data gathering, and attempt to answer the question.

There might be facts you don't know yet - information missing, new technology able to reveal things you would not have been capable of knowing previously. And so your answer might change. That doesn't make it misleading. It just makes it inaccurate. You can be wrong, and not be lying.
He testified to Congress that CO2 was the primary cause of Venus 900 F surface temperature. That was a lie - and he knew it - or he fell asleep during astrophysics class.
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Old 07-11-2023, 10:28 AM
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There are over 100 glaciers that are growing. They are listed at Weather Club meetings.
How many times do I have to repeat it-----Don't confuse the zealots with the facts, it spoils the taste of their Kool-Aid.
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How many times do I have to repeat it-----Don't confuse the zealots with the facts, it spoils the taste of their Kool-Aid.
I am busy chugging--
Some of Glacier National Park's glaciers have lost as much as 80% of their size in the last 50 years | CNN
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There are over 100 glaciers that are growing. They are listed at Weather Club meetings.
Well that sounds like a good time.

What about the other estimated 199,900 glaciers?
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I know , Tal. We really should go back to 3 word sentences or even the nothing thread
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I know , Tal. We really should go back to 3 word sentences or even the nothing thread

More actual information. Dramatic Decline in Multiyear Arctic Sea Ice - Ocean Conservancy
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He testified to Congress that CO2 was the primary cause of Venus 900 F surface temperature. That was a lie - and he knew it - or he fell asleep during astrophysics class.
Interesting. Sagan believed it then and every website I can find believes it today. Consensus may not be proof but it's a heck of a lot more convincing than unsubstantiated claims on ToTV.
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I read the hearing report from AP, and Sagan's original paper on the subject. I'm not seeing that he misled anyone. He gave his theory, supported it with the scientific data available at the time, and brought it to the most likely conclusion. That's what science is all about. You pose a question, do fact finding and data gathering, and attempt to answer the question.

There might be facts you don't know yet - information missing, new technology able to reveal things you would not have been capable of knowing previously. And so your answer might change. That doesn't make it misleading. It just makes it inaccurate. You can be wrong, and not be lying.
You are right, but the climate change denier WEENIES don't want to hear it
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You are right, but the climate change denier WEENIES don't want to hear it
Sorry, but the label "weenies" has already been taken and defined. Think of something original, and not what that moron Joy whatever on "the view" that calls it a "dee-nye-yah"
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Michio Kaku is the Carl Sagan of the now. Wonder what his views on global warming are.
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Michio Kaku is the Carl Sagan of the now. Wonder what his views on global warming are.

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You could ask him! He requests that you do it on Facebook. He probably has answers about Global Warming on there.

And I found this-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnoJuQp8h3w
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Sorry, but the label "weenies" has already been taken and defined. Think of something original, and not what that moron Joy whatever on "the view" that calls it a "dee-nye-yah"
"Pricks" comes to mind.
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I think that might qualify as gulping down a double dose of Kool-Aid. Fortunately, most of that post is untrue

BTW, It's not the scientific community that is conspiring----It is the "powers that be", the ones that will profit from this nonsense. The scientists are merely their pawns, with a gun to their head, trying to survive professionally and financially since to state the truth results in suicide. And of course, the media is all too happy to aid them in pushing this false narrative.
O M G !! I would be laughing if I thought you didn’t really mean that load of dung!! Check with your cult leader because what ever you're drinking or smoking is WAY beyond a a little cherry Kool-aid, my friend.
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Sorry, but the label "weenies" has already been taken and defined. Think of something original, and not what that moron Joy whatever on "the view" that calls it a "dee-nye-yah"
Please consider my use of your "weenies" as an homag to one of my all time favs.
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"pricks" comes to mind.
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