[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That's interesting about the next 100 years. I believe that we are already seeing geo-consequences. In the US, we have up to 1,000 per day Climate Refugees crossing our southern border. And masses of Climate Refugees are moving northward from recently uninhabitable regions of Africa due to heat and crop failures. It seems like Mr.Climate is "COOKING UP"something similar to what has been often predicted in Apocolypse-type movies. Good thing that we are old, but pity the grandchildren.

Now they're "Climate Refugees"?

Just another example of "Let's change the name because the previous name wan't working!"

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The climate of this planet is changing. Climates on all planets change. That's the nature of nature.

The human species, at the advent of the Industrial Age, has created conditions on this planet that have caused the naturally occurring climate change to change faster, more severely, in shorter a period of time, had the Industrial Age not occurred.

In order to appreciate these facts, one must be capable of critical thinking, and an interest in actually using their minds to think critically.

Deniers are either not capable of critical thinking, or not interested in trying.

They're entitled to be myopic. And the rest of us are entitled to know that they are myopic. It's all good.

Carry on.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The climate of this planet is changing. Climates on all planets change. That's the nature of nature.

The human species, at the advent of the Industrial Age, has created conditions on this planet that have caused the naturally occurring climate change to change faster, more severely, in shorter a period of time, had the Industrial Age not occurred.

In order to appreciate these facts, one must be capable of critical thinking, and an interest in actually using their minds to think critically.

Deniers are either not capable of critical thinking, or not interested in trying.

They're entitled to be myopic. And the rest of us are entitled to know that they are myopic. It's all good.

Carry on.

And "Chicken Littles" see the sky falling every time they turn around... They are either not capable of critical thinking or they are afraid of their own shadow...

I mean, as long as we're calling people names, it's all good, right?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Again, what will climate change theorists clamor about if the newly announce fusion energy discovery is a home run?

Want to know what raises my eyebrows? Huge tracks of beautiful, farmable land gobbled up by rows and rows of wind turbines and solar panels. Who cares about climate change if we’re unable to produce enough food?

Well as I discussed earlier the Mississippi River in the US and the Rhine river in Europe are at historic low levels because of droughts. That is Global Warming affecting both growth of crops and the ability to ship them to markets. Basically, both farmers AND consumers care about Climate Change unless they have their heads in the sand.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The climate of this planet is changing. Climates on all planets change. That's the nature of nature.

The human species, at the advent of the Industrial Age, has created conditions on this planet that have caused the naturally occurring climate change to change faster, more severely, in shorter a period of time, had the Industrial Age not occurred.

In order to appreciate these facts, one must be capable of critical thinking, and an interest in actually using their minds to think critically.

Deniers are either not capable of critical thinking, or not interested in trying.

They're entitled to be myopic. And the rest of us are entitled to know that they are myopic. It's all good.

Carry on.

I think most are far less myopic than you think. Many are aware there may be climate change but as we watch the “climate change big shots” jet all over the world and live lavish lifestyles creating more pollution in their lifestyles than the rest of the population, the hypocrisy is too much.

Climate change should be everyone’s issue, not just the bottom 50%.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well as I discussed earlier the Mississippi River in the US and the Rhine river in Europe are at historic low levels because of droughts. That is Global Warming affecting both growth of crops and the ability to ship them to markets. Basically, both farmers AND consumers care about Climate Change unless they have their heads in the sand.

And the Mississippi flooded in 2014, 2017 & 2019... What's your point?

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well as I discussed earlier the Mississippi River in the US and the Rhine river in Europe are at historic low levels because of droughts. That is Global Warming affecting both growth of crops and the ability to ship them to markets. Basically, both farmers AND consumers care about Climate Change unless they have their heads in the sand.

Wait.. I thought the glaciers melting were causing flooding and heavy rainfall everywhere. You have to keep your crisis straight.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Additionally, Arctic sea-ice is greater than its 30-year low, Greenland snow mass is at record levels, Australia had a record cold spring, Antarctica had a record cold low, and the Antarctic Ice Sheet is growing (in addition to many other glaciers) -- all because of global warming -- and the ongoing "end-of-snow" as promised by so many man-made global warming advocates.

Just looked up Greenland's ice mass. It has been DECLINING in recent years due to melting and iceberg calving.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Just looked up Greenland's ice mass. It has been DECLINING in recent years due to melting and iceberg calving.

And that’s drying up the Mississippi and Rhine river?

[rsimpson]

Originally Posted by tuccillo

I would not get too excited. There is often a big span between doing the basic science and engineering large scale production.

40-50 years (if ever) for the fusion process to be real (implement) for homes, etc.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Now they're "Climate Refugees"?

Just another example of "Let's change the name because the previous name wan't working!"

Darn. I thought we were supposed to call illegal aliens "undocumented"

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Just looked up Greenland's ice mass. It has been DECLINING in recent years due to melting and iceberg calving.

Describe the method in how that is obtained. Remember, Greenland is not yet Green.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by rsimpson

40-50 years (if ever) for the fusion process to be real (implement) for homes, etc.

I read years, POSSIBLY decades but you got half a century, huh.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I couldn't give a rat's furry arse what some third world crap country blames us for.

I would just take a LITTLE bit into consideration that WE are all LUCKY to have been born into the US. The US has great amounts of natural resources, probably the most navigable rivers in the world, a temperate climate, and oceans protesting it from wars to the east and west for many years. Also GREAT historic profit from FREE labor. I for one have some empathy for many 3rd world nations. And many are further weighed down by autocratic, despotic rulers. We are quite lucky!

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I would just take a LITTLE bit into consideration that WE are all LUCKY to have been born into the US. The US has great amounts of natural resources, probably the most navigable rivers in the world, a temperate climate, and oceans protesting it from wars to the east and west for many years. Also GREAT historic profit from FREE labor. I for one have some empathy for many 3rd world nations. And many are further weighed down by autocratic, despotic rulers. We are quite lucky!

It takes away some of the lucky factor if one is paying it back, for which America is well known.