[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

EV buses are hot ... https://x.com/NetworksManager/status...66690251620422

Give EVs batteries 20 more years of development and they will be way safer than gasoline vehicles. Actually, I am sure that they are today. And that fire could have been human error. Someone may have hooked up a charger incorrectly. We don't know how that investigation turned out.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Actually, I read that the 1991 Mt. Pinatubo eruption was about the same size as the Tonga eruption. Tonga was under water and Pinatubo was on land . Pinatubo COOLED the Earth for 2 years by .9 degree F. Which is no big deal. Tonga produced water vapor. Pinatubo produced black ash. Tonga warmed the Earth, but I did not read anything about how much.
.......One could assume that since both eruptions were about the same size that they would have about equal effect on the earth temperatures.
Therefore, the effect of Tonga would be equally SMALL.

Turns out that I was basically CORRECT about this. The latest research proves that. The Tonga water vapor initially lead to SPECULATION that it was the cause of the Global Warmth of 2023 and 2024. This NEW research can be found in The Environmental and Energy Leader, which I assume is a magazine for Scientists. Texas A+M scientist Dr. Andrew Dessler revealed surprising findings. They found that the Tonga eruption "actually COOLED the earth". (my note - repeat COOLED THE EARTH). "This finding redirects attention back to human caused greenhouse gas emissions as the CAUSE of recent warming trends". Dr. Mark Schoeberl was also involved.
.......The bottom line is that the Tonga eruption actually cooled the Earth, NOT warmed the Earth. Scientists say that the recent intense warming of the planet in the last few years is due to Greenhouse Gas Emissions such as factory and vehicle CO2 emissions.

[golfing eagles]

Do you know the most amazing facet of this thread??

It's NOT that it is the umpteenth thread of this type

It's NOT that the indoctrinated, weak minded and gullible continue to parrot the talking points of those that financial benefit from the climate change agenda

It's NOT that some of us continually post THE FACTS, while others simply serve as "useful idiots" for their masters

It's that we are at post 63 and it has not yet been mysteriously shut down.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Turns out that I was basically CORRECT about this. The latest research proves that. The Tonga water vapor initially lead to SPECULATION that it was the cause of the Global Warmth of 2023 and 2024. This NEW research can be found in The Environmental and Energy Leader, which I assume is a magazine for Scientists. Texas A+M scientist Dr. Andrew Dessler revealed surprising findings. They found that the Tonga eruption "actually COOLED the earth". (my note - repeat COOLED THE EARTH). "This finding redirects attention back to human caused greenhouse gas emissions as the CAUSE of recent warming trends". Dr. Mark Schoeberl was also involved.
.......The bottom line is that the Tonga eruption actually cooled the Earth, NOT warmed the Earth. Scientists say that the recent intense warming of the planet in the last few years is due to Greenhouse Gas Emissions such as factory and vehicle CO2 emissions.

Like Einstein said, "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Claims that Tonga cools are absurd, as evident in attached image, where there is NO spike in CO2 -- but there is a spike in climate alarmism. All similar attempts to dismiss Tonga's heating effect will be debunked at the Tonga Talk - Aug 15 at 1 PM at Bridgeport.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by sounding

Like Einstein said, "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Claims that Tonga cools are absurd, as evident in attached image, where there is NO spike in CO2 -- but there is a spike in climate alarmism. All similar attempts to dismiss Tonga's heating effect will be debunked at the Tonga Talk - Aug 15 at 1 PM at Bridgeport.

You mean you're going to make yet another attempt to confuse them with the FACTS. Rotsa ruck

[sounding]

Originally Posted by sounding

Compared to yesterday, it was 2 degrees cooler this morning during my sunrise walk. I even saw a woman, who was walking her dog, who was wearing long pants and a jacket. As Debby moves even further north, the southerly winds will continue to slow and nighttime radiational cooling will return. I expect it to be 1 degree cooler tomorrow morning.

Again -- another morning cooler than yesterday. Global warming is on a roll.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by sounding

Again -- another morning cooler than yesterday. Global warming is on a roll.

Unfortunately, global warming proponents and their acolytes roll on as well.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Unfortunately, global warming proponents and their acolytes roll on as well.

Here it is mid-summer and Greenland is reporting above normal "increases" of ice and snow -- and not a peep from the news ... Greenland’s Summer Looks More Like Winter Considering Large Ice Gains - Cold Weather Report

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Do you know the most amazing facet of this thread??

It's NOT that it is the umpteenth thread of this type

It's NOT that the indoctrinated, weak minded and gullible continue to parrot the talking points of those that financial benefit from the climate change agenda

It's NOT that some of us continually post THE FACTS, while others simply serve as "useful idiots" for their masters

It's that we are at post 63 and it has not yet been mysteriously shut down.

It is well known that some people feel a great need to be in CONTROL of everything and they become irate and agitated when that does not happen.That must be very frustrating!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Like Einstein said, "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Claims that Tonga cools are absurd, as evident in attached image, where there is NO spike in CO2 -- but there is a spike in climate alarmism. All similar attempts to dismiss Tonga's heating effect will be debunked at the Tonga Talk - Aug 15 at 1 PM at Bridgeport.

It is difficult for me to believe that ANY person (myself definitely included) living in The Villages can know more than the Climate Researchers at Texas A+M that have submitted their work in for peer review. No one has to believe me, but also no one without a Climate Science degree can challenge the Texas A+M scientists that must have worked very hard to get this science CORRECT. The idea that Tonga WARMED the Earth was MERELY a 1st SPECULATION that is now DISPROVED. My advice would be to inform The Villages Climate Club of these NEWEST FINDINGS.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Like Einstein said, "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Claims that Tonga cools are absurd, as evident in attached image, where there is NO spike in CO2 -- but there is a spike in climate alarmism. All similar attempts to dismiss Tonga's heating effect will be debunked at the Tonga Talk - Aug 15 at 1 PM at Bridgeport.

Strangely, that 1st graph shows nothing about CO2, but it does show what I have been trying to communicate.....namely that the Earth has been HEATING up dramatically in recent years. So thanks for the graph.
......I will have to look more closely at that 2nd graph to see what it is trying to communicate.

[jimjamuser]

OK I got it now, that 2nd graph basically shows (also what I have been saying) that CO2 is increasing as the World Population is increasing. Not a big deal, we all can HOPEFULLY agree on that.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It is difficult for me to believe that ANY person (myself definitely included) living in The Villages can know more than the Climate Researchers at Texas A+M that have submitted their work in for peer review. No one has to believe me, but also no one without a Climate Science degree can challenge the Texas A+M scientists that must have worked very hard to get this science CORRECT. The idea that Tonga WARMED the Earth was MERELY a 1st SPECULATION that is now DISPROVED. My advice would be to inform The Villages Climate Club of these NEWEST FINDINGS.

Confirmation bias gathering is fun, but it's not data. Fortunately, The Weather Club specializes in data. Please join us and celebrate global warming and CO2 -- because the alternative is deadly.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

OK I got it now, that 2nd graph basically shows (also what I have been saying) that CO2 is increasing as the World Population is increasing. Not a big deal, we all can HOPEFULLY agree on that.

True --- and that is a good thing -- because we are in a CO2 famine ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnQo8l-BHc

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Here it is mid-summer and Greenland is reporting above normal "increases" of ice and snow -- and not a peep from the news ... Greenland’s Summer Looks More Like Winter Considering Large Ice Gains - Cold Weather Report

If you read toward the bottom there is the statement that 2012 was the LOWEST point for ice. That last graph also shows a giant drop in ice in recent history. I once read that farmers are now able to grow crops in Greenland that were impossible to grow 30 years ago.
......When Climate scientists create the graph of the Earth's massive temperature rise in the last 15 years they are INTEGRATING ALL temperature locations on the EARTH. Obviously, there will be some FEW locations where more snow will occur, but they put ALL Earth locations TOGETHER to have a comprehensive SUMMARY.