[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Just to be informative, I did not say ANYTHING CLOSE to political in my post that was referred to. Fossil fuel usage, excess CO2 production (that is producing ocean acids that are killing coral reefs, the earth's temperature increase, and China and the US being top polluters (making their populations most important in terms of trying to SOLVE problems associated with Global Warming!) Nothing about that statement has anything to do with any particular party and is neither political nor biased against ANY ethnic group or even religion.

As far as fusion is concerned I just yesterday hear a scientist say that the recent news, while important, is MERELY proof of CONCEPT. He listed SO many problems taking years to go from concept proof to practical application. Most likely, none of us will be alive to see electricity generated in practical quantities. If someone in Villageland wanted to do something constructive for their grandchildren, they would buy an electric golf cart.

As far as

It is a COLDLY calculated statement of PROBLEMS facing the WORLD. which are so LARGE and comprehensive that they make politics seem like a child's game. China does NOT even have political parties or Russia, but they DO have CO2-emitting fossil fuel vehicles. And Russia has a WAR machine that contributes NOTHING to the
world and wastes fossil fuel for the purpose of killing people and destroying grain and agriculture that the whole world needs. That is part of the war and pestilence PROBLEM that I have been speaking about. Compared to these world climate and other large problems, individual countries' internal politics PALE in comparison.

As far as China's past attempt at population control failing.......I am NOT a Chinese history expert. I believe that they MANDATED married couples to have only one child. Then people wanted ONLY male children and they were even killing female babies. Apparently, that was NOT a well-thought-out solution and they gave it up. I will give them credit for the concept of TRYING to equate their population with their resources at the time. But, they maybe should have tried some different solution like maybe (just spitballing here) having a LOTTERY to pick the parents to have children. Using CHANCE to determine parenthood would at least be fair and they could have ended up with about 50% males and an equal number of females. I am sure that someone in Villageland is more capable of discussing Chinese history that what I just presented.

Yeah, you need to update your knowledge regarding Chinese population control which includes the fact that they were now attempting to encourage couples to have children due to the severe drop in population. Search under China being haunted by it’s one child policy. I’ll wait to hear from you after you done the extensive research.

And I personally find your earlier post to be extremely political and slanted. IMHO.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Aces4

How do you get up in the morning? I guarantee the climate won’t collapse in ten years. I can’t guarantee you or I will be alive in ten years. I have no guarantees about nuclear wars but then that wasn’t the subject, was it? Have faith and be the positive force in the world and not the negative Nellie who can’t accomplish anything.

It is part of human nature to choose to avoid thinking about problems. Historically, the US tried everything to avoid the PROBLEM of getting involved in WW2. Winston Churchill even had that famous quote about the US ALWAYS doing the right thing AFTER all other options are eliminated. I guess what I am saying is that Global Warming is a PROBLEM that 99% of scientists are fully aware of, BUT that the LAY public seems to blindly ignore for the most part. I am merely suggesting that ignoring the PROBLEM is going to soon bite the world in its collective backside!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

When consensus is reached, thinking stops. Einstein.

Furthermore ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOF7pPmMYY0

Normally the act of and the work put into arriving at a consensus by the scientific method REVEALS other issues and fertile areas to be further EXPLORED. Science NEVER STOPS !

Although sometimes the FUNDING does stop.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Normally the act of and the work put into arriving at a consensus by the scientific method REVEALS other issues and fertile areas to be further EXPLORED. Science NEVER STOPS !

Although sometimes the FUNDING does stop.

So science is reporting a great discovery in fusion energy and all you can do is say it’s too late. And how is your research on Chinese population control issues coming along?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Normally the act of and the work put into arriving at a consensus by the scientific method REVEALS other issues and fertile areas to be further EXPLORED. Science NEVER STOPS !

Although sometimes the FUNDING does stop.

Wait, I thought "The Science was settled"...

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Aces4

So science is reporting a great discovery in fusion energy and all you can do is say it’s too late. And how is your research on Chinese population control issues coming along?

Ditto. Once one believes in man-made climate change, then the sky's the limit on being able to make up anything they tickles their fancy -- especially telling others how to live, but not them -- like the global warming establishment telling us to ride bikes while they fly private jets.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Yeah, you need to update your knowledge regarding Chinese population control which includes the fact that they were now attempting to encourage couples to have children due to the severe drop in population. Search under China being haunted by it’s one child policy. I’ll wait to hear from you after you done the extensive research.

And I personally find your earlier post to be extremely political and slanted. IMHO.

You beat me to it. China wanted population control but unfortunately the whole idea has gotten away from them.

They have a disaster in the making as the population ages and they have to figure out how to finance their version of social security while facing a huge shortage of workers as their population quickly ages..

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Wait, I thought "The Science was settled"...

Well, it appears that 99% of scientists have reached the consensus that Global Warming is real and man-made. Now they are turning their attention to things like improving battery life for electric vehicles and improving the power grid and hardening sub-stations, Science never stops.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

You beat me to it. China wanted population control but unfortunately the whole idea has gotten away from them.

They have a disaster in the making as the population ages and they have to figure out how to finance their version of social security while facing a huge shortage of workers as their population quickly ages..

Part of China's worker shortage is that they killed them off by having a bad, ineffective "HOMEGROWN" Covid vaccine. They refused to use effective ones like the US developed. China crashed headlong into the principle that wars and pestilence control populations. And the Russian war with the Ukraine is an example of war controlling both their populations.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Part of China's worker shortage is that they killed them off by having a bad, ineffective "HOMEGROWN" Covid vaccine. They refused to use effective ones like the US developed. China crashed headlong into the principle that wars and pestilence control populations. And the Russian war with the Ukraine is an example of war controlling both their populations.

The population issue was pre-covid and I personally find these premises ridiculous. You can’t sell your positions to anyone who is even slightly educated in the current climate debate. I’m moving on.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, it appears that 99% of scientists have reached the consensus that Global Warming is real and man-made. Now they are turning their attention to things like improving battery life for electric vehicles and improving the power grid and hardening sub-stations, Science never stops.

I wish you would make up your mind. In one post, you state they've reached a consensus, and in another you state that "Science never stops"... Which is it?

And "Global Warming"? Really? You, of all people should know they dropped that mantra years ago in favor of "Climate Change"...

And I'm pretty sure that it's not scientists who are working on "Hardening sub-stations"... That sounds like a job for security experts, or even the military... Not guys in white lab coats...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Part of China's worker shortage is that they killed them off by having a bad, ineffective "HOMEGROWN" Covid vaccine. They refused to use effective ones like the US developed. China crashed headlong into the principle that wars and pestilence control populations. And the Russian war with the Ukraine is an example of war controlling both their populations.

You're blaming China's worker shortage on COVID???

And you're actually stating that the US Vaccine was "EFFECTIVE"?

Lest I repeat myself...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Aces4

The population issue was pre-covid and I personally find these premises ridiculous. You can’t sell your positions to anyone who is even slightly educated in the current climate debate. I’m moving on.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, it appears that 99% of scientists have reached the consensus that Global Warming is real and man-made.

Do you have a citation for this? Do you mean political scientists?

What do you even know about science...What's your CV?

[Dan2020]

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