[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by LeRoySmith

I'm curious if any of the folks that are sure we are killing the planet drive petrol vehicles, use power from a fossil fuel power plant, fly on a plane, procreate, consume meat, purchase anything from China or Mexico?

I'll just leave this here. One of the most green among us. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/0KUORlktdX

And that's on a PRIVATE jet, not even commercial. She is a HYPOCRITE, like the rest of them buying up beachfront property.

[DARFAP]

Originally Posted by sounding

The July 25 Daily Sun said, "Monday Breaks the Record for the Hottest ever Day on Earth" - from an AP article. There are two reasons why the article falls short. First, that article fails to mention the unprecedented Tonga volcano, which injected unprecedented amounts of water vapor (earth's strongest greenhouse gas) into the stratosphere - where it is causing today's unprecedented global warming spike (see image). Second, that article fails to mention the multi-national EEMIAN ice core drilling project, which after extensive peer-reviewed analyses, shows that Earth was about 14 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than today as compared to the prior Interglacial Warm Period ... Greenland ice cores reveal warm climate of the past – Niels Bohr Institute - University of Copenhagen ... Details will be presented during the Aug 15 Weather Club meeting.

Most articles in the DS fall short.

[CybrSage]

The first weather satellite was launched in the 1960s. It is dishonest to make any accurate claims about temps before then

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Well said. Otherwise it seems like --dig hole, insert head. The facts are all around.

What percent of the increase is caused by humans and what is caused by the natural cycles we know would still be increasing the temp even if humans never existed?

The answer is vital to our response. If it is a scant 1%, then nothing we do matters. If it is 99%, then destroying lives and causing suffering is required by all nations. Even the ones the Paris Accords exempted, China and India, have to make huge changes

So how much is it? I have searched hard and found no answers other than morons saying100%, which is obviously a lie

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

And that's on a PRIVATE jet, not even commercial. She is a HYPOCRITE, like the rest of them buying up beachfront property.

She offsets all that burnt jet fuel with purchased carbon credits. I think she's worth about 1.1B so it probably doesn't hurt all that much to be green, or I should say pay someone else to do it for her.

I am strongly considering an electric car (toy) to use around here. I hope Elon really starts selling the little roadster next year. When he shot the one into space I knew I liked him and bought a bunch of stock, what a lucky buy.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Humidity holds 150X more heat than CO2 gas and CO2 makes up a tiny 0.04% of the lower atmosphere. You really have to be absolutely unthinking/television watching to think CO2 can change Earth climate.

It does seem strange that .04% of CO2 in the atmosphere can have such a big effect on Global Warming, BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT IS JUST WHAT HAPPENS. Simply Google - CO2 makes up WHAT % of the atmosphere - and there is the answer. It is pretty complicated, so I will give just the little that I know......O2 and nitrogen make up 99% of the atmosphere, but they have ZERO effect on earth heating. CO2 and water vapor make up most of the remaining 1%. And they are capable of absorbing HEAT.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Absolutely! Perhaps they'd have a better claim if they knew the temperature in 1564, or 966, or 26,987 BC. It's a classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees.

We have temperature data only back to 1850. But that does NOT matter because it is only the last 15 years that is meaningful because of the rapid increase for THAT period. Goggle world population from 1500 until today and notice the graph explodes upward around about 1950. Then google Global Temperature. It takes some time to find a graph with a recent horizontal axis, but if you take the time you will see about the same graph as the rapid increase in the recent 15 years.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It does seem strange that .04% of CO2 in the atmosphere can have such a big effect on Global Warming, BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT IS JUST WHAT HAPPENS. Simply Google - CO2 makes up WHAT % of the atmosphere - and there is the answer. It is pretty complicated, so I will give just the little that I know......O2 and nitrogen make up 99% of the atmosphere, but they have ZERO effect on earth heating. CO2 and water vapor make up most of the remaining 1%. And they are capable of absorbing HEAT.

"Big effect"? How big? Tell me ... how big (or how much) did man-made CO2 warm the earth last year?

[sounding]

Originally Posted by DARFAP

Most articles in the DS fall short.

Talk about falling short ... look at how bad wind energy fails at serving it's customers in the UK -- only 2% service at this posting ... Wind power production as a percentage ... EV owners won't be happy.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MorTech

The "Greens" don't even realize that CO2 is plant food that makes plants green. Can they be more laughable?

Your grandchildren will be living in poverty - eating plants and bug and anti-depressants thanks to their climate hoax.

Please see my response on #111 and 112

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

Though this warming trend has been going on for a long time, its pace has significantly increased in the last hundred years due to the burning of fossil fuels. As the human population has increased, so has the volume of fossil fuels burned. It’s ignorant to believe humans aren’t contributing to the climate changing. We do all we can to destroy everything on the planet that isn’t human and wonder why things don’t work properly anymore.

That is one comment that i can agree with.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by defrey12

Prove that theory, Einstein. You’re missing the point most are making here. We can’t control—or combat—our changing climate anymore than we could control the sun rising and setting. The changing climate has nothing to with us and to think otherwise is pure hubris. In the grand scheme of the universe and geologic time we are as insignificant as an ant…probably even less so.

Einstein says please look at the graphs and google what I discussed on #111 and #112

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by crash

They claim it is the hottest day ever recorded so that is the hundred years or so. Man releases the co2 retained in decaying vegetation (oil) and destroys the vegetation that traps co2 so a double whammy.

I can agree with that post.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by crash

We don’t live in geological time. If there weren’t 8 billion humans cutting down all those trees that fix co2 and releasing the co2 that was fixed for millions of years by burning oil we would have 1 less variable in climate change.

I agree except I believe that there are 15 Billion humans on earth today.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Einstein says please look at the graphs and google what I discussed on #111 and #112

What is causing the "rapid increase" when CO2 is rising at a nearly constant rate?