[Keefelane66]

It’s only going to get warmer.

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66

It’s only going to get warmer.

Correct, because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age.

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Originally Posted by Mobrien

Watch the news. The world is experiencing a climate crisis!

That's why I don't watch news - it's mostly propaganda. I instead watch the data, which says there is no climate crisis.

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Originally Posted by metalic

I must say, I find your logic to be rather confused.

For decades, the scientists have been saying that climate change will cause some areas to be wetter than usual, and other areas to be drier. Likewise, some areas will be hotter than usual whereas others will be colder.

Yet, when exactly what they predicted is actually taking place, you cite this as evidence that climate change is not real?

All climate model predictions have been too hot - even from NASA scientists. It's embarrassing.

[Keefelane66]

Aren’t we in an 8 year cooling trend

[Marsha11]

I agree " not real"

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by sounding

That's why I don't watch news - it's mostly propaganda. I instead watch the data, which says there is no climate crisis.

Neither of those two slides has anything to do with climate change. The first slide shows an increase in the crop production mainly due to the use of fertilizers that were virtually nonexistent in the 1960s. The second slide talks about famine and that is attributed to a global effort to distribute food.
But by all means....you keep trying, because I can debunk this kind of stuff ALL DAY LONG!!

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Aren’t we in an 8 year cooling trend

Correct. See attached UAH graph. This is mainly because of the decreasing Feynman sunspot cycle. It's expected to start its warming cycle in several years. In the meantime, the Feynman cycle is riding on top of the warming Bray and Eddy solar cycles, which have been warming the earth since the Little Ice Age - and are expected to continue warming the earth for a few more hundred years (after the Feynman cooling cycle ends). However, the Bray and Eddy solar cycles are riding on top the Milankovitch Cycle, which started its ice age cooling trend 7,000 years ago - which in the end - will take us into the next ice age era - as it has done 44 times in the last 2.5 million years. There are other sun-driven cycles in play, but it gets complicated.

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Neither of those two slides has anything to do with climate change. The first slide shows an increase in the crop production mainly due to the use of fertilizers that were virtually nonexistent in the 1960s. The second slide talks about famine and that is attributed to a global effort to distribute food.
But by all means....you keep trying, because I can debunk this kind of stuff ALL DAY LONG!!

That's the narrative. Here's the data - NASA says the majority of earth's greening is due to CO2 fertilization. Plus, fertilizers are fossil-fuel engineered products. Plus, more crops are possible from fossil-fuel created machines and fuels. Plus, global warming is opening up more farmlands and for longer growing periods. Our ecosystems are improving thanks to global warming and more CO2 ... that's why we call the Roman and Medieval warm periods climatic optimums. Life on earth is improving - especially since the population keeps growing.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by sounding

That's the narrative. Here's the data - NASA says the majority of earth's greening is due to CO2 fertilization. Plus, fertilizers are fossil-fuel engineered products. Plus, more crops are possible from fossil-fuel created machines and fuels. Plus, global warming is opening up more farmlands and for longer growing periods. Our ecosystems are improving thanks to global warming and more CO2 ... that's why we call the Roman and Medieval warm periods climatic optimums. Life on earth is improving - especially since the population keeps growing.

I don't know if you realize or not but you just blew up your own climate change denial thesis with your own slide. Here is the remainder of the NASA article that you failed to include:
While rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the air can be beneficial for plants, it is also the chief culprit of climate change. The gas, which traps heat in Earth’s atmosphere, has been increasing since the industrial age due to the burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years. The impacts of climate change include global warming, rising sea levels, melting glaciers and sea ice as well as more severe weather events. I don't see any mention of the Earth getting cooler in this NASA report…… The one you posted.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Whitley

You understand how that sounds to someone looking into the situation. Some areas will be wetter than usual, with some being drier. Some locations hotter, yet others cooler. It reminds me of that old Carlin Weather skit. Today, sunny, till sunset then turning darker. Nothing anyone says will sway another. We have been deceived and lied to so often that it is difficult to accept anything as fact. Unfortunate.

There is a new book out by David Lipsky about the HISTORY of climate change science and how and why deniers crop up to counter the scientific facts. It could be an interesting read.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

It’s only going to get warmer.

That is what is predicted to keep INCREASING for the next 8 years. I read that in about 4 years GM is expected to be advertising and selling ELECTRIC CARS at a rate of about 30% of all new car sales. If that actually happens, then we can hope that it leads to decreasing climate change.

[Dusty_Star]

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[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by sounding

That's why I don't watch news - it's mostly propaganda. I instead watch the data, which says there is no climate crisis.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

That's why I don't watch news - it's mostly propaganda. I instead watch the data, which says there is no climate crisis.

The crop yields on that graph only go up to 2018. Which means almost nothing compared to what is happening right now.....TODAY. Today due to the record HEAT, the crops in the Midwest are ALL in danger of crop failure, a bad harvest, problems for farmers, and price increases for the average US citizen.
The record Gulf Water heat makes scientists worry about dying CORAL reefs around Florida - which COULD destroy the Florida fishing industry and sport fishing. The Coral reefs are the ecosystem that produces the environment for Florida fishing. As the Coral Reefs die, the Florida fishing industry dies.