[gbs317]

I knew seven years ago The Villages will be from the Atlantic Ocean to the Gulf Coast and from Tallahassee to Miami and eventually we will be known as the state of The Villages.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

What percentage of the current warming is caused by the well know natural warming that would be happening right now even if human never existed and what percentage of the warming is caused by humans? Go ahead and round to the nearest 5%. State the source as well.

Interested to see howich is our fault so we know how much we can stop.

Thanks!!

I remember that being done in another thread about six months ago. But, deniers deny so it was dismissed as being more lies, a remnant of a dinosaur passing gas 450 million years ago, a conspiracy by the govt to change all the thermometer readings, or just "LALALALALA I don't hear you."

A yearly number is likely impossible to calculate due to the complexity of the system. On the other hand, a 150(ish)-year trend has been widely published.

[Blueblaze]

Didn't Al Gore already explain when that was going to happen? 2017, right?

Hasn't happened for me yet, though. I think it must have only happened in Opposite World.

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

No concern of mine, my kids, or grands.
Not a problem.
Just another **** stir post.

Oh…the sky is falling; the sky is falling!

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by jimkerr

This sounds like a fun club.

Oh, yes…loads. Handwringing at its best.

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by sounding

That's like saying the sun comes up in the East. Oceans go Up & Down 400 feet each glaciation cycle. Sea levels were about 25 HIGHER during the prior Interglacial Warm Period. It's all natural -- except for the climate alarmism part.

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[mraines]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Arctic warming releases MASSIVE amounts of METHANE, a greenhouse gas which accelerated Global Warming. Polar bears and other mammals rely on ICE for hunting and protection - they are struggling to survive. The same is true for indigenous PEOPLE. past a certain point, climate recovery is nearly impossible.
........Permafrost is rapidly warming and drying out in Siberia and the Canadian Northwest Territory. Thawing permafrost can release stored carbon through the increased risk of fire. That will ADD to the CO2 in the upper atmosphere which reflects heat back to the Earth and our mid-latitudes.

I think it is naive to think that the overpopulation of this planet has no effect on it. Most people want their creature comforts and are not willing to make changes to help this planet. Just take a walk down the laundry aisle in the grocery store. Plastic all the way. Try to find detergent in a cardboard box anymore. We are destroying this planet.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by mraines

I think it is naive to think that the overpopulation of this planet has no effect on it. Most people want their creature comforts and are not willing to make changes to help this planet. Just take a walk down the laundry aisle in the grocery store. Plastic all the way. Try to find detergent in a cardboard box anymore. We are destroying this planet.

The climate narrative says destruction ... while the climate data says advancement.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

The climate narrative says destruction ... while the climate data says advancement.

Finally, something we can agree on! Growing more food and feeding more people lowers the rate of famine! Good thing you had a graph for that, no one would have believed it otherwise. Now, what it has to do with plastic in the laundry aisle ....

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

"Suffer the consequences"? .... so why are soooo many moving to Florida? We are approaching a climatic optimum -- thanx to global warming and increasing CO2.

Admitting that there is Global Warming and increasing CO2 is a step in the right direction. To solve a problem one must FIRST admit that there IS a problem. As to why so many are moving to Florida? that can ONLY be explained as group blindness and lack of knowledge. Personally, I have LOVINGLY counselled any and all that asked on TOTV to alter their plans to locate in Florida full time to try Georgia or the Carolinas. I also, have said that they will be fine and safe from HURRICANES if the have a 2nd house to go to up north during the 5 months of maximum chances of HURRICANES. last summer the Gulf and the Atlantic Ocean were at record temperatures, which are the engine that creates the recent KILLER HURRICANES. So I warn about summer in Florida. People ARE moving to Florida at too high a rate. Then they complain about not enough Doctors and too much road traffic. I tend to complain about them - too many people for the available resources. Notice that homes for sale are at INFLATED prices. Next summers HURRICANES could knock down many homes and make lots available at lower prices. The insurance companies know what I am saying is correct. That's why they are LEAVING Florida. The people just are NOT taking those HINTS.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Al Gore was just as bad with his 'no glaciers remaining by 2015" prediction.

Actually Al Gore was like a Colonial hero (Paul Revere) riding around saying, "The British are Coming". In almost President Gores case he was an EARLY WARNING HERO for what is happening in the last 10 years. Take note that the North Pole and parts of Alaska and Siberia are worming at a rate of 4 times that at our latitudes. That SHOULD BE an early warning system for us. Ask....Why are all the Insurance companies LEAVING Florida. People are coming to Florida , but the insurance companies are leaving. Who is right? Just ask who has access to the most current and accurate information?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by defrey12

Oh…the sky is falling; the sky is falling!

Sorry, if you are concerned about all this, 'lets scare everyone' BS. That's your problem.
I really do not understand what all the panic is about.
Of course the climate is changing, it always has, but generations to come will survive, until they don't.
Really not my worry.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

What percentage of the current warming is caused by the well know natural warming that would be happening right now even if human never existed and what percentage of the warming is caused by humans? Go ahead and round to the nearest 5%. State the source as well.

Interested to see howich is our fault so we know how much we can stop.

Thanks!!

Just read what 95% of all Climate Scientists have to say. It can easily be found with a few Google clicks. The problem is that many really don't want to BELIEVE the TRUTH. History is full of disbelievers. Once it was thought that the Earth was flat and disbelievers were purged. There will always be anti-Science disbelievers.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by gbs317

I knew seven years ago The Villages will be from the Atlantic Ocean to the Gulf Coast and from Tallahassee to Miami and eventually we will be known as the state of The Villages.

I would take that bet, but I can't live long enough to collect it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mraines

I think it is naive to think that the overpopulation of this planet has no effect on it. Most people want their creature comforts and are not willing to make changes to help this planet. Just take a walk down the laundry aisle in the grocery store. Plastic all the way. Try to find detergent in a cardboard box anymore. We are destroying this planet.

What is SAD to the MAX is that in destroying the planet we are SLOWLY destroying ourselves. Every gasoline golf cart that goes by (some speeding) driven by a smiling, happy individual...........probably has NO IDEA about how their own contribution is negatively affecting humanity and the Earth. Maybe after the next 10 years of increasing Heat and killer HURRICANES, the people in The Villages will finally EQUATE their CO2 emitting vehicles to the SLOW death of the Earth. Coal burning in China does NOT help also. Many Scientist believe that in 10 years we will reach a "TIPPING POINT" from which we can't recover. Why are so many (and so many older Villagers) willing to take that chance??????????