[rustyp]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Speaking of delusion and cognitive dissonance, it certainly looks like a question to me, including the correct punctuation with a question mark.

From an old TV commercial: A mind is a terrible thing to waste"

Yes it is - you win

[Bwanajim]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I generally watch WFTV (ABC affiliate) in the morning for local news and weather. I have no idea about other stations, but for the last 2 weeks they have been pushing harder than ever their narrative of high temperatures. This morning they claimed that we have substantially higher temps than normal, and used the terms "unprecedented", and "dangerous". What is insidious is their use of "heat index" almost to the exclusion of actual temperatures so they can put triple number digits on their map. No comparison of these "heat indices" with past values are given.

OK, actual high temps in the Villages 7/27-8/3----94,96,95,96,96,98,96 avg 95.86
Oh, wait a minute, that was LAST year
This year, same dates---89,90,96,97,91,95,93 avg 93.00 or 2.86 deg COOLER
This is what the weatherman claimed is "substantially higher than usual". So I'm calling BS on that.
I can only assume that the news media has access to more complete temperature data than those numbers I just pulled off the accuweather website, so clearly they are LYING TO US. Why???? Is there an agenda at work here?

Meanwhile, pretty much all of Central Florida is under a heat advisory, which the weatherman stated was unusual. True, there was no heat advisory this time last year when it was 2.86 degrees WARMER. So why is that?

Well, heat advisories are issued by the National Weather Service, a division of NOAA which falls under the Department of Commerce, lead by a cabinet level secretary.
So, here is what they are doing:
"Today, U.S. Commerce Secretary Gina M. Raimondo announced funding opportunities from NOAA's $2.96 billion in Infrastructure Law funds to address the climate crisis and strengthen coastal resilience and infrastructure. Over the next five years, NOAA’s targeted investments in the areas of habitat restoration, coastal resilience, and climate data and services will advance ongoing federal efforts toward building climate resilience.

Looks like they're getting plenty of media support for their "efforts"

Draw your own conclusions, but IMHO it appears that reporting temps as heat indices, issuing heat advisories when it is actually cooler than last year, and Good Morning America's lead story every day on the weather serves to push the continuing false narrative of "global warming", for which a few figure to profit immensely.

Addendum: This morning's GMA story is about a glacier they hunted for that is melting at an "unprecedented" rate. Probably true, but there are other glaciers that are growing. And in another 40,000 years those glaciers will grow 2 miles of ice over much of the Northern Hemisphere.

I Remember in HS Al Gore said there would be a coming Ice Age. Remember?
The hottest temperature in the US was recorded in 1913 in death Valley. I’m sure that was because of the internal combustion engine.🙄🙄😂
This whole climate agenda is about control. We could stop every bit of greenhouse gas, and it would accomplish nothing compared to what China and India is doing.
What scares me is so many people fall for this crap.

[Bwanajim]

Originally Posted by coralway

This is a great forum. I am in awe just reading these posts. Everyone here is either a genius scientist or a genius lawyer. By the way, stay away from windmills, they cause cancer.

Living is easy with eyes closed

No, everyone here is just using common sense🤦*♂️

[jaj523]

China is building new coal mines at record speeds (one a week I've read) and has been excused from the climate accords. Much of Africa and South America are following suit. Their combined land mass makes up a lot more mass than the United States. Some of the nutty things this country is doing in pursuit of saving the planet are meaningless. Without the entire world working together, all the money we are throwing at climate change is a waste.

[Bwanajim]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

My apologies for the use of the term "denier ". I didn't realize how it upset you. What term do you think more appropriate for one who denies the fact of global warming. I've got a few suggestions, but "denier" is by far the least objectionable, imho.

First off, Mr. Flintstone is not real, nor does he represent prehistoric humans in any real way. He is a cartoon version of Ralph Cramden of The Honeymooners.
Second, the natural cycle was disrupted, no real surprise, beginning with the massive increase in population, the start of the industrial revolution, the use of fossil fuel, and the massive destruction of ecosystems world wide.
Want to cry "Follow the money"? Then follow the BIG money and it will lead you right to big oil.

The hottest temperature on history in the US was in death Valley in 1914. Look it up. I think that was before the internal combustion engine.🙄😂

[Bwanajim]

Originally Posted by rustyp

Same dates last year
Aug 9 - 90 degrees
Aug 10 - 95 degrees
Aug 11 - 93 degrees
Aug 12 - 93 degrees
Aug 13 - 93 degrees

Proof positive climate is warming:
Same 5 days this year Vs last year are projected to be +8.6 degrees higher.
I could not find the same 5 days data from 200 years ago.

You’re joking, right? You’re not really comparing last year‘s temperatures to this year and say we have global warming because of it? 🤷🏼*♂️🤦*♂️🤦*♂️🤦*♂️ look up the temperature in death Valley in 1914 and get back with me. SMH

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by rustyp

Same dates last year
Aug 9 - 90 degrees
Aug 10 - 95 degrees
Aug 11 - 93 degrees
Aug 12 - 93 degrees
Aug 13 - 93 degrees

Proof positive climate is warming:
Same 5 days this year Vs last year are projected to be +8.6 degrees higher.
I could not find the same 5 days data from 200 years ago.

Your statement is wrong since the actual data is already on record and is certainly less than 8.6 degrees. But, how can you possibly call this proof positive. That is like saying that today's temp at 95 and tomorrows at 96 is proof positive climate is warming. I guess that the following day at 93 would then be proof positive that the climate is cooling.

[sounding]

Ditto. There is no climate change crisis -- just a climate education crisis.

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by sounding

Ditto. There is no climate change crisis -- just a climate education crisis.

I worry it is worse than a climate education crisis. There is a strong narrative being pushed by powerful factions to spread climate alarmism, using mostly doctored 'facts' & emotional arguments. While I agree that if people were more aware of the climate scam, the narrative would lose its power, at this point education seems to be rolling off most believer's minds. I suppose the best we can do is follow the original poster's example & try to convince those with an open mind.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

I worry it is worse than a climate education crisis. There is a strong narrative being pushed by powerful factions to spread climate alarmism, using mostly doctored 'facts' & emotional arguments. While I agree that if people were more aware of the climate scam, the narrative would lose its power, at this point education seems to be rolling off most believer's minds. I suppose the best we can do is follow the original poster's example & try to convince those with an open mind.

I'm trying, but it is an uphill fight. The powers that are pushing the false narrative are well funded and have like-minded allies on campuses and in the media. The thought police have been unleashed. The real expert climatologists have been beaten into submission by the threat of professional suicide. So now they are attempting to marginalize anyone who doesn't sign onto their agenda. The real scary part is how many in the general public have discarded common sense and critical analysis and just play follow (the internet) leader like good little lemmings. Educators have been warning us that the science and math IQ of the American public has been steadily declining. The ability to scam so many with climate change alarmism may well be the proof that they are right.

[Dusty_Star]

Exactly. 💯

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bwanajim

The hottest temperature on history in the US was in death Valley in 1914. Look it up. I think that was before the internal combustion engine.🙄😂

The IC engine was invented in the 1860's. And you can look that up.
By the way, oil is not the only fossil fuel, and oil was being used in homes and industry well before cars. Fossil fuels were almost exclusively the fuels of choice that powered the industrial revolution.

[JMintzer]

I'm surprised no one as mentioned the effects of this underwater volcano eruption...

Tonga Eruption Blasted Unprecedented Amount of Water Into Stratosphere

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

The IC engine was invented in the 1860's. And you can look that up.
By the way, oil is not the only fossil fuel, and oil was being used in homes and industry well before cars. Fossil fuels were almost exclusively the fuels of choice that powered the industrial revolution.

And……..?

[sounding]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I'm surprised no one as mentioned the effects of this underwater volcano eruption...

Tonga Eruption Blasted Unprecedented Amount of Water Into Stratosphere

Tonga will be discussed in the next Weather Club meeting - Aug 17, 1:30 PM, at Laurel Manor.