[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

Has not been called GLOBAL WARMING in almost ten years now. CLIMATE CHANGE is the wording now. It's easy to tell where you fall on this by using such a old outdated phrase.

Yes, changing the name really means so much...

[biker1]

Not exactly.

Climate change: the change in the climate due to natural and anthropogenic causes.

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Climate change encompasses global warming. They are two different things. One is not a substitute for the other.

Global Warming: the warming of the planet (self explanatory) usually due to the greenhouse effect.

Climate Change: change in the weather over a long period of time (Again, self explanatory)

If you are talking about this year, which had record breaking, scorching heat, the cause is most likely global warming. It may sound counterintuitive but global warming includes snowstorms.

Climate change is change in weather for an extended period of time. You can say because of the same conditions happening in certain areas over the last few years, there has been a change in climate.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by biker1

Not exactly.

Climate change: the change in the climate due to natural and anthropogenic causes.

Exactly! Completely different than the warming of the earth due to the greenhouse effect, isn't it? Which is the definition of global warming. Global Warming aids in Climate Change. It doesn't matter if you believe in global warming. They are still two DIFFERENT things.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

So when sun don’t shine why does my solar light in back yard go dime or won’t come at night when day was cloudy???

Cloud and contrails are not the same.
Modern solar panels work on light.
Sunny will give best power output.
Cloudy lower power output, but still work.
Solar panels work in UK, and we have a public holiday if sun shines!

As for cheap Chinese garden lights, it's a wonder they work at all.

[MorTech]

A physical gas has no "greenhouse" properties...Cuz it's a gas.
Where do people get this crap? Their Idiot Box? Study Physics!

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by MorTech

A physical gas has no "greenhouse" properties...Cuz it's a gas.
Where do people get this crap? Their Idiot Box? Study Physics!

I guess scientists all over the world go to their idiot box because they have nothing better to do.

[MorTech]

The political psychopaths are test-driving their latest climate scam in the Netherlands - Nitrogen as a "Greenhouse Gas" - in order to end fertilizer production and close farms. I don't think the Dutch people are that stupid.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I guess scientists all over the world go to their idiot box because they have nothing better to do.

Which ones? Can you at least try to be more specific/scientific?

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Which ones? Can you at least try to be more specific/scientific?

I do not have to be specific. Look up the term greenhouse effect and educate yourself. With or without humans burning fossil fuels, the effect exists- Science 101. Without it, earth would be frozen.

Gases in our atmosphere trap the radiation of the sun. This is called the green house effect. This effect makes the earth warm and liveable. Humans burning fuels send more gases into the atmosphere. More gases in the atmosphere results in a warmer earth. Scientists believe human interference is causing global warming.

[asianthree]

For those who should really experience what one is posting. There are a number of volunteer groups who travel to the glaciers every summer, to assist with testing. You spend 2 months traveling by foot, with pull sleds, (no dogs), so not to do harm.

One must be able to carry your backpack, experiencing the wonders of what this post is truly about. Age isn’t a factor, with some in their late 80s. Has to be more fun than googling.

[biker1]

No. CO2 absorbs strongly in the 15 micrometer window (and therefore absorbs terrestrial radiation). It is transparent to other portions of the electromagnetic spectrum. The net result is the lower troposphere warms and the stratosphere cools with increasing CO2 levels. Manabe published a paper about the impact in the 70’s but the effect has been realized for a much longer period of time. I have omitted many of the radiative transfer details that cause this effect because it is inappropriate for this forum (i.e. a discussion of the radiative transfer details will cause most people’s eyes to glaze over and I have learned with time not to bore people with technical details). To suggest that increasing CO2 does not have an impact on temperatures is really silly. Discussions about the magnitude of the impact to date, the impact in the future, whether it is really a problem, and what can be done if it is really a problem is more appropriate.

Originally Posted by MorTech

A physical gas has no "greenhouse" properties...Cuz it's a gas.
Where do people get this crap? Their Idiot Box? Study Physics!

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Cloud and contrails are not the same.
Modern solar panels work on light.
Sunny will give best power output.
Cloudy lower power output, but still work.
Solar panels work in UK, and we have a public holiday if sun shines!

As for cheap Chinese garden lights, it's a wonder they work at all.

Where do you think the solar panels come from that are on homes today?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Where do you think the solar panels come from what are on homes today?

Same place, but they ain't cheap, and they are built to the tech/spec we have stupidly given away in pursuit of cheap labor and higher profit.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Low flow in the lower Mississippi resulting in a saltwater wedge flowing upstream and affecting the water supply for New Orleans. Easy enough to Google.

Perhaps this high water will flow downstream and alleviate the problem.

That’s because New Orleans below sea level.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

That’s because New Orleans below sea level.

Past time to make sure the dikes are in good shape or New Orleans is gonna be in deep sh ..... Too late!