[Randall55]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

Did you know that commercial snow crab fishing in the Bering Sea off Alaska has been banned for the second straight year? There has been a huge decline from 8 billion down to 1 billion in the crab population due to the warming waters which increase the crab's metabolism and cause them to starve. The crab season has never been canceled before.

Global warming/climate change statistics are the result of averaging temperatures over an entire year. Yes, some winters may be colder than others but over a period of years, decades and centuries the earth's temperatures have been steadily rising. To deny scientific facts and to do nothing to combat the warming trend shows total disregard and selfishness for the generations to follow.

If the heavy snowstorms continue throughout the season, this should help cool the water temperature. Perhaps, not significantly, but any reduction is better than none.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Wondering

Global warming - Climate change. It's not saying that Alaska won't get snow again, It's saying the world's climates are changing, to our detriment, because of global warming in the northern and southern poles, adding an increase in water levels throughout the world. Do some legitimate research before you pass on nonsense! Pathetic.

One of the concerns of global warming is increased levels of precipitation. My questions were:
1. Is the cause El Niño? Which would be a 2023 weather phenomena.

2.Are scientists shaking their heads in disbelief? Increased precipitation would mean their theory is looking to be correct. This year, several cities have been flooded due to an abundance of rain. It is continuing with EARLY record breaking snow fall. It may sound counterintuitive, but heavy snowfall can be a result of global warming.

3.Why hasn't this seen more news coverage? Followers of global warming would want ALL weather emergencies to be reported.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The only SACRIFICES that need to be made are for 30 % of new car, truck, and golf cart buyers to purchase E-vehicles instead of the polluting internal combustion vehicles.

You first. I'm not interested in EVs at this time. I can find better things to spend my limited income on. But, I think it's great that "others" play with EVs. EVs have been around since the 1800's and have yet to become that efficient or popular. On the other hand, natural gas or hydrogen powered vehicles are probably a better idea in the evolution of powered transportation.

[biker1]

Like it or not, EVs are a disruptive technology and will continue to gain popularity. The Tesla Model Y (their small SUV, about the size of a Toyota RAV4 or Honda CR-V) is the best selling new car in the world and the US. By 2030, EVs are projected to be 50% of new car sales. From an energy perspective, EVs consume much less energy than gas cars although the manufacturing process for an EV consumes more energy than a gas car. Natural gas and hydrogen powered vehicles will most likely remain a niche form of transportation. The issue is a lack of a distribution network and the high cost of developing one. With EVs, every garage is a recharging station and publicly available recharging stations are rapidly being built out across the world. Most importantly, Governments and car manufacturers are "all in" with EVs. There are financial incentives to buy an EV by the Government (just like there are for houses) but you will not be forced to buy an EV. Gas powered vehicles will most likely be around for the next 30 years.

Originally Posted by Byte1

You first. I'm not interested in EVs at this time. I can find better things to spend my limited income on. But, I think it's great that "others" play with EVs. EVs have been around since the 1800's and have yet to become that efficient or popular. On the other hand, natural gas or hydrogen powered vehicles are probably a better idea in the evolution of powered transportation.

[Battlebasset]

Yup. EV, solar panels, and wind turbines are going to change the climate of an entire planet. Especially if the US is the only one to do it.

If human caused climate change believers were really serious about addressing the "issue", and not just finding ways to extract money from government and gain power, they would:

1. Increase the use of NG for transportation and power generation. Burns 30% cleaner than gasoline, and requires far less refining, so even less energy used.

2. Ramp up nuclear power to eventually provide for all of our electric needs. Zero emissions.

3. Utilize battery power where is has the most impact. Which is not cars. It is smaller ICE (lawnmowers, chainsaws) that pollute far more per cubic inch than do automobiles.

Even so, these things won't make much difference. Weather is going to do what it's going to do. The best use of our money, other than the items I note above, is to invest in engineering solutions to aid in man's adaptation to changing weather patterns.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It just isn't that simple. Arkansas will now be hosting Exxon-Mobile's first foray into the United States with mining lithium. The process involves separating the lithium from saltwater. In Arkansas. A landlocked state. There's no natural saltwater, they have to drill over 10,000 feet to get to it. The process also results in pollution to area freshwater sources. Which means - a whole lot of new employees to do the drilling, and a whole lot of new employees to dig new plots in cemeteries to bury all the people who will die from poisoned water sources.

And that's because - there is no place to PUT the polluted water, they don't have the kinds of treatment plants necessary to clean the toxic waste produced by the lithium drilling operation.

No point in reducing global warming that will happen eventually whether we contribute to it or not, if everyone is dead before it ever gets that far.

There's lots of lithium in Arkansas. So there's going to be lots of drilling. And lots of displaced wildlife who have to live somewhere, but won't be living near the wells. The country will be less reliant on foreign sources for lithium - which is where you get those batteries for your electric vehicles. So we pollute the land to get the lithium that makes the batteries we use in our electric cars that we drive to prevent pollution from oil drilling.

See what I mean? It's not that simple.

That's TRUE, and I would just add that most all inventions and societal changes come with SOME form of DOWNSIDE. Eventually, there may be a better replacement for the lithium battery (like maybe a hydrogen cell or something that we have never even heard about).
........I believe that the internal combustion engine is now "long in the tooth" and is being replaced as we speak. The US has 8% new cars that are E-powered (lithium) and Europe has about 20% of new vehicle sales of e-vehicles. I think that if the US got to 30% ONLY that the upper atmosphere reflecting layer would begin to heal and we would BEGIN to REVERSE Global Warming. This is JUST my guess, but at least it is practical and achievable without a total replacement of all ICE vehicles.
.........With E-vehicles we do NOT have to stop pollution at EVERY MOVING VEHICLE like with ICE vehicles (which is difficult). We have better control of the pollution coming from the Electricity generating Companies and sources.
.........And a VERY big positive would be that we would NOT have to KISS the butts of the Saudi Arabians. And we might better avoid Middle East wars.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

You first. I'm not interested in EVs at this time. I can find better things to spend my limited income on. But, I think it's great that "others" play with EVs. EVs have been around since the 1800's and have yet to become that efficient or popular. On the other hand, natural gas or hydrogen powered vehicles are probably a better idea in the evolution of powered transportation.

In Europe, EVs represent 20 % of new car sales. It is 6 % in the US. But, remember, "the trend is your friend"!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

Did you know that commercial snow crab fishing in the Bering Sea off Alaska has been banned for the second straight year? There has been a huge decline from 8 billion down to 1 billion in the crab population due to the warming waters which increase the crab's metabolism and cause them to starve. The crab season has never been canceled before.

Global warming/climate change statistics are the result of averaging temperatures over an entire year. Yes, some winters may be colder than others but over a period of years, decades and centuries the earth's temperatures have been steadily rising. To deny scientific facts and to do nothing to combat the warming trend shows total disregard and selfishness for the generations to follow.

Or due to dredging the oceans clean of fish. Over fishing probably the cause. China dredging fleets doesn’t really care about seasons or international law.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

In Europe, EVs represent 20 % of new car sales. It is 6 % in the US. But, remember, "the trend is your friend"!

Europe better suited for EV, they don’t travel as far as we do and have. Better public transportation. Heard on news (can trust news?) EV sales are tending up, but manufacturers are trending EV production down cause the losing their ___ on them.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

Yup. EV, solar panels, and wind turbines are going to change the climate of an entire planet. Especially if the US is the only one to do it.

I think you will find that the US is far from being on its own regarding the power sources you mention, in fact, compared to Europe, Scandinavia, and many other countries, America is lagging way behind.
When you consider the amount of sunshine that Florida alone gets, you would think a solar farm or two around/in The Villages, could probably make the place self sufficient for electric energy.
Probably show a profit selling surplus electricity to local grid.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I think you will find that the US is far from being on its own regarding the power sources you mention, in fact, compared to Europe, Scandinavia, and many other countries, America is lagging way behind.
When you consider the amount of sunshine that Florida alone gets, you would think a solar farm or two around/in The Villages, could probably make the place self sufficient for electric energy.
Probably show a profit selling surplus electricity to local grid.

IMO Cause 100x population and area. Have to cover half state and stop contrails from blocking sun rays.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I think you will find that the US is far from being on its own regarding the power sources you mention, in fact, compared to Europe, Scandinavia, and many other countries, America is lagging way behind.
When you consider the amount of sunshine that Florida alone gets, you would think a solar farm or two around/in The Villages, could probably make the place self sufficient for electric energy.
Probably show a profit selling surplus electricity to local grid.

I have been on several missions through our church. To say the USA is lagging behind is an understatement. I am amazed at what some countries have been able to achieve. Hopefully, we get our heads out of the sand soon.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

IMO Cause 100x population and area. Have to cover half state and stop contrails from blocking sun rays.

Contrails?
Think you need to read up on how modern day solar panels work.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

In Europe, EVs represent 20 % of new car sales. It is 6 % in the US. But, remember, "the trend is your friend"!

Like I said, "you first." I don't believe in your herd mentality, preferring to make my own way. I do not care what others wish to do regarding EVs. Like the saying goes, different strokes for different folks. I do know that when an EV golf cart goes dead due to a low power battery, it gets towed. When a fossil fuel golf cart runs dry, a simple solution is a gallon of gas to get it home and further. Unlike some folks(?) on here, I do not care what Europe, Australia or other countries do. That's their business and we do not control their actions. I use battery operated tools because I don't want the smell of gas in my garage. They are not better than fossil fuel tools.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Like I said, "you first." I don't believe in your herd mentality, preferring to make my own way. I do not care what others wish to do regarding EVs. Like the saying goes, different strokes for different folks. I do know that when an EV golf cart goes dead due to a low power battery, it gets towed. When a fossil fuel golf cart runs dry, a simple solution is a gallon of gas to get it home and further. Unlike some folks(?) on here, I do not care what Europe, Australia or other countries do. That's their business and we do not control their actions. I use battery operated tools because I don't want the smell of gas in my garage. They are not better than fossil fuel tools.

I don't believe we were only talking about EV vehicles. That is only ONE change that has been made in other countries. In general, we were talking about how other countries have implemented ways to adapt to our changing world. Stronger structures to withstand storms, solar power, wind power, crops that can grow in drought conditions, reforestation, water preservation, etc.