[maistocars]

Amen Golfing Eagles! Where do these folks find the time? As mentioned above, they seem to be trying to convince themselves.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yes, seas levels are rising. And yes, they will continue to rise. And yes, there will be more flooding. And yes, in about 50,-60,000 years half of Florida will be underwater. AS HAS BEEN THE CASE OVER A DOZEN TIMES IN THE LAST 4.5 MILLION YEARS. However, all of that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with human activity. THAT is the science, THAT is the data, and yet there are still deniers. I understand the profit motives of those power brokers that are pushing the false narrative, I even understand the media complicity since they are chasing ratings. I even understand the uber-hypocrites that want to dictate a lifestyle to everyone else while they do as they please. What I fail to understand is how anyone can buy into this garbage. I do understand to a small degree our young people who buy this crap hook, line and sinker, since they are ignorant, inexperienced, yearn to find they own identity and want to join "a cause". But mature people with half a brain? I just don't get it.

Since your facts don't match those from the climatologists it seems you must have done tour own research.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

A 20 foot difference in ocean level is not created by land mass shifts, we are talking about global temperatures and the amount of water tied up in polar ice caps. I can't imagine continental drift plays a major role.

Sincere question. IF; Matter can neither be created nor destroyed; all of the H2O that has ever existed on planet Earth currently exists; Fill a glass of water and ice cubes to the brim and as the ice melts going from solid to liquid the level remains the same; then -Must we worry about rising seas from melting glaciers? Perhaps the melting of frozen snow/ice that covers land would lead to sea level rise. Does melting glaciers floating in the seas contribute to significant water level rise?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Since your facts don't match those from the climatologists it seems you must have done tour own research.

Which climatologists are they??? The ones who work for the government whose jobs depend on them pushing the false narrative???? Or the ones at the Universities whose tenure, publications and grants are denied if the don't push this false agenda. Try seeing what retired climatologists and those that independent of outside influences have to say. Oh, I forgot, they are the ones that the climate change advocates have labelled "deniers" and "nut jobs".

[waterflower]

Research weather modification..Weather wars. H.A.A.R.P., chemtrails-USAF pilot patch. Weather is controlled.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Sincere question. IF; Matter can neither be created nor destroyed; all of the H2O that has ever existed on planet Earth currently exists; Fill a glass of water and ice cubes to the brim and as the ice melts going from solid to liquid the level remains the same; then -Must we worry about rising seas from melting glaciers? Perhaps the melting of frozen snow/ice that covers land would lead to sea level rise. Does melting glaciers floating in the seas contribute to significant water level rise?

A little more complicated than that, but essentially makes the point. It is only ice that is on land and melts that will substantially increase ocean levels---ie: melting glaciers and ice on Antarctic land mass. There are about 130,000 known glaciers on Earth---some are melting, others are growing. For the next 30-50,000 years there will be much more melting, AS HAS BEEN THE CASE DOZENS OF TIMES IN THE LAST 4.5 MILLION YEARS, ALL WITHOUT HUMAN INFLENCE.

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Kent Island is sinking...

Well, that's just great. Can't resist a possibly interesting rabbit hole, so wasted some googling time down this one. That "sinking" thing coulda been *really* interesting to learn about, but all I got was this article where "sinking" is merely a euphemism for alarmist levels of sea level rise in a ridiculously short period of time. RISING TIDES – Stevenson Villager

And *now* learn that "Bill" isn't even currently living in Stevenson! :-) Also, it appears that I still have a bit to figure out about those "signature" listings of former places residence. Guess the lower the listing, the more recent - at least sometimes. I do now know that Victor, NY, apparently has nothing to do with any Kent Island. :-)

[Bwanajim]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

That's fine----SO WHAT??????

8 year cooling trend, 30 year warming trend, 150 years of warming----SO WHAT. It means nothing in the last 4.5 million years of our current ICE AGE marked by 70-120,000 years of alternating periods of glaciation and interglacial thaws. Our current warming trend started about 19,000 years ago and will probably continue for the next 25-30,000 years. At the peak of warming, most of Florida will be gone and our coastal cities will be under 200-400 feet of water, AS IT HAS BEEN AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES OVER THOSE 4.5 MILLION YEARS. And guess what? Fifty thousand year or so later, NYC will once again be covered by 2 miles of ice, AS IT HAS BEEN AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES OVER THOSE 4.5 MILLION YEARS. And now for the harsh reality---none of that was influenced by any human (or humanoid) activity. NONE OF IT.

So, the climate change alarmists can go on spouting their garbage. Those few in the position to profit from all the hype will make $billions if not $trillions. The lemmings will march off and buy their EVs and put solar panels on their roofs. The media will continue to push this false narrative---and guess what again---none of it will make the slightest difference. We simply do not have the technology to challenge the power of the sun, Earth's orbit and precession of our axis.

And finally, as a promise to one who is constantly sounding the imminent disaster alarm, here is a picture. It was taken last month off the Isle of Capri in the Mediterranean (well actually, the Gulf of Naples) at high tide. The dark line along the cliff about 15-20 feet ABOVE the water (above the boat on the left, sorry about the resolution but it was hazy) is erosion from where the sea level was 2,000 years ago when Ceasar Augustus ruled. So much for ocean levels rising in the last 2,000 years, and at the current rate of rise we have quite a long time just to get back to the level of Roman times. Yes, we'll get there and hundreds of feet more, but not in the next decades, but in many millennia.

You are100% correct!! This hysteria over climate change is a joke. The planet has been changing temperature for millions of years.

The current official highest registered air temperature on Earth is 56.7 °C (134.1 °F), recorded on 10 July 1913 at Furnace Creek Ranch, in Death Valley in the United States.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by mntlblok

Well, that's just great. Can't resist a possibly interesting rabbit hole, so wasted some googling time down this one. That "sinking" thing coulda been *really* interesting to learn about, but all I got was this article where "sinking" is merely a euphemism for alarmist levels of sea level rise in a ridiculously short period of time. RISING TIDES – Stevenson Villager

And *now* learn that "Bill" isn't even currently living in Stevenson! :-) Also, it appears that I still have a bit to figure out about those "signature" listings of former places residence. Guess the lower the listing, the more recent - at least sometimes. I do now know that Victor, NY, apparently has nothing to do with any Kent Island. :-)

Yes, But Victor is a nice suburb of Rochester, NY with really great nearby golf courses (Oak Hill, CC of Rochester, Cobblestone Creek to name a few)

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Which climatologists are they??? The ones who work for the government whose jobs depend on them pushing the false narrative???? Or the ones at the Universities whose tenure, publications and grants are denied if the don't push this false agenda. Try seeing what retired climatologists and those that independent of outside influences have to say. Oh, I forgot, they are the ones that the climate change advocates have labelled "deniers" and "nut jobs".

Same applies to climatologists.

[Bwanajim]

Originally Posted by blueash

This graph uses as a zero point the temperature average over a 30 year period from 1991 to 2020. Of course this was a period when temps were already moving upward as you can see looking at how no years prior to 2002 were warmer than that average. So when a person who regularly posts that we are in a cooling trend selectively uses a single hot year as a baseline, know you are being manipulated and lied to.

Man-made climate change is just another attempt to get government control. Planets been warming or cooling for millions of years.! First, it was a coming Ice Age. They were started getting warmer. They called a global warming. Then, when I got a few years of cooling, they called a climate change to cover all the bases.
The current official highest registered air temperature on Earth is 56.7 °C (134.1 °F), recorded on 10 July 1913 at Furnace Creek Ranch, in Death Valley in the United States.
I don’t think they used much fossil fuels back then🙄🙄

[OhioBuckeye]

Does anyone there have Tankless Water Heaters that the builder’s put on the outside of house, if so don’t the owners worry about those heaters freezing & bursting. I want to know because a lot of residents had theirs burst. Not in Florida but other southern states have! Just curious!

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You deny that man can impact climate change but somehow that doesn't make you a denier?

India and China feel that fighting poor living conditions and famine is more important right now. This was the subject of a long thread about a year ago. As we make progress towards greener power generation and transportation, they will be able to make use of it to solve their humanitarian problems while decreasing their pollution problems.

Might the term "denier" have picked up certain connotations within this realm? Bet you knew that. :-)

[Elixir34]

I agree that in the last few years, the world seems to be warming slightly. But “climate change“ is a Progressive political movement to gain power.

“There is no better subject to illustrate such a colossal deception in today’s world as “climate change“…

Every weather event, or natural disaster that causes discomfort, damage, or death is attributed to “climate change“, which in turn is said to require major changes in the quality of life, the capitalist system, a reduction in economic growth and prosperity, increase taxation and regulation, the surrender of national sovereignty to international governing organizations, and/or significant expanse of domestic government power. Indeed, every household product, from gas stoves, lightbulbs, and dishwashers to air conditioners, washing machines, automobiles, and anything else that uses energy, is now subject to government control.

“And since the time is said to be urgent, requiring instant and vast, federally directed change to save the future of humanity, there is virtually no time for reflection, circumspection, or scientific and factual evaluation of past predictions and their accuracy (actually, inaccuracy) and the direction in which the nation is being forcibly plunged”
~ Mark Levin ~

And this list of energy using devices and appliances to be regulated is now expanded to gas furnaces, ceiling fans and about three dozen more.

[ron32162]

There has always been a month or a day recorded as the hottest always. Also someone that's the tallest the shortest the fattest the longest day of the year. I'm sure there's someone that's the dumbest also. I bet you will really like the newest Guinness book of world records 2024 coming out soon !