[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Seriously???? What does it prove????

IT PROVES that the Earth has been warming for 19,970 years before your measly 30-year trivial snippet, ALL WITHOUT THE HELP OF HUMANS!!!

Hey! What about post 97? I thought it was a pretty good Readers Digest version of a rant. Did you even bother to read it. No comment, good (too much to hope for) or bad (what I've come to expect ). I'm crushed. I need a spoon of mint chocolate chip ice cream. 😢

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Hey! What about post 97? I thought it was a pretty good Readers Digest version of a rant. Did you even bother to read it. No comment, good (too much to hope for) or bad (what I've come to expect ). I'm crushed. I need a spoon of mint chocolate chip ice cream. 😢

OK, I waded through it and distilled it to this: You agree that the Earth has been warming for 20,000 years but now human activity is adding to the warming that would have occurred naturally. Fair point, I'm sure we are contributing, but to what extent? Probably very, very little. Best analysis from climatologists who are not being held hostage by the current narrative is that we are delaying the next period of glaciation by about 8,000 years. But that is due to the rise of agriculture in Asia since 7,000 BC, not anything to do with fossil fuels.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I have to ask, is there a large prize say $100,000 for the proven correct answer? For a hurricane that doesn’t affect anyone in the general area of TV.

Almost 100 posts and so far doesn’t look like any one has won the prize money yet.
Or whoever gives up is really the winner

As somebody famous said when they were asked to surrender, " I have just BEGUN to FIGHT !

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Seriously???? What does it prove????

IT PROVES that the Earth has been warming for 19,970 years before your measly 30-year trivial snippet, ALL WITHOUT THE HELP OF HUMANS!!!

That last statement looks to be true on the SURFACE. But the FALLACY is that it does NOT take into consideration the FACTOR of the Earth's population reaching an extreme 8 BILLION people TODAY. This is a SHORTHAND explanation of the physical mechanisms in play.
............The LAST 30 years = LARGE population = large numbers of ICE vehicles = excess CO2 drifts upward = upper atmosphere HEAT refraction downward = negative Earth factors.............populations moving northward, melting icebergs, rising oceans, hot air and humidity, more fires, animal and plant extinction, and HUMAN HEAT DEATHS.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Hey! What about post 97? I thought it was a pretty good Readers Digest version of a rant. Did you even bother to read it. No comment, good (too much to hope for) or bad (what I've come to expect ). I'm crushed. I need a spoon of mint chocolate chip ice cream. 😢

I read it. Keep up the good work.

[LeRoySmith]

Does the weather club have a member named Jim Jones?

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Found an AOL report stating that readings taken at a number of AccuWeather meters located on oil rigs in the gulf, Eugene island being one, showed winds of 97 to 112 mph. Meters located between 100-200 ft above ocean surface. Will you accept this?
By the way, as of latest search, no deaths (thank goodness) attributed to Francine.

Please confirm (via recorded data) that they are "sustained" or "gust" data. Storm categories are based on sustained wind speeds -- and that they are at or no more than 3 meters above sea level.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by sounding

Despite boiling oceans and epic heat waves, Francine only attained Cat 1 status and never had a chance of attaining the anticipated major hurricane status. Why? The Tonga volcano prevented the hurricane helper, called La Nina, from developing, and it made the tropical atmosphere more stable - thus inhibiting tropical activity.

I've so far contacted over 30 news media and weather reporting agencies, who are sure Francine was a Cat 2 storm -- and so far -- none can provide data confirming Francine's Cat 2 status. It's amazing how many have unthinking respect for authority.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

OK, I waded through it and distilled it to this: You agree that the Earth has been warming for 20,000 years but now human activity is adding to the warming that would have occurred naturally. Fair point, I'm sure we are contributing, but to what extent? Probably very, very little. Best analysis from climatologists who are not being held hostage by the current narrative is that we are delaying the next period of glaciation by about 8,000 years. But that is due to the rise of agriculture in Asia since 7,000 BC, not anything to do with fossil fuels.

You "waded" through it (barefoot or golf shoes ...doesn't matter) and "distilled" it? It was pure, clear. The Chateau d'Yquem of literacy and reason. You laced it with everclear and soy sauce then drank it with a straw! A Plastic straw. You got it all wrong. 8,000,000,000 people. The distruction of Earth, poisoning of the waters and air! The pollution and waste. How could you not be moved? Woe be unto the world if there are many such as thee. Not blind but unwilling open even one eye. "Oh! The humanity" (I borrowed that from the Hindenberg disaster)

Wow! Not bad, eh? 😃
Forgot, I supposed to collapse in tears. 1,2,3, 😱😭😭😭

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I read it. Keep up the good work.

Thanks. I thought they would be tough nuts to crack. But now I'm thinking they're not nuts at all. They're cannon balls.

[MorTech]

NOAA is obviously corrupt and has been for a long time. You need to research data outside of Wokeistan.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

You "waded" through it (barefoot or golf shoes ...doesn't matter) and "distilled" it? It was pure, clear. The Chateau d'Yquem of literacy and reason. You laced it with everclear and soy sauce then drank it with a straw! A Plastic straw. You got it all wrong. 8,000,000,000 people. The distruction of Earth, poisoning of the waters and air! The pollution and waste. How could you not be moved? Woe be unto the world if there are many such as thee. Not blind but unwilling open even one eye. "Oh! The humanity" (I borrowed that from the Hindenberg disaster)

Wow! Not bad, eh? 😃
Forgot, I supposed to collapse in tears. 1,2,3, 😱😭😭😭

Meh. So-so, give it a 6.3/10

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by sounding

I've so far contacted over 30 news media and weather reporting agencies, who are sure Francine was a Cat 2 storm -- and so far -- none can provide data confirming Francine's Cat 2 status. It's amazing how many have unthinking respect for authority.

I agree with the bold point above, whole heartedly. However, the issue being questioned is a soft event, not a hard event. Type 1 error, false positive, on a classification issue of safety, which didn't affect the outcome, which also didn't last long. I have had two different careers, and to a lay person, what I see as a significant professional issue, the lay person does not.. . is the Type 1 Error significant to the outcome?

Also realize that referees work for the NFL, and the NFL as a sports entertainment and marketing organization, also uses Type 1 errors to effect outcomes, but at the edges, (most times) and yet viewership and money keeps rolling in. . . The Type 1 errors are easy to see if you know where to look. Is the NFL type 1 errors significant to our daily lives? to the lay person, no, to the professional football participant, yes. . .

I have this exact issue with government financial data, with revisions and methodology changes for accuracy? yes, they are purely incompetent with respect to accuracy,, more about presentation to pay or not pay for certain outcomes. Its glaringly obvious that the imputed numbers are grossly false and misleading, but that is the sign that the country and government is too big to management, and the government is now too lucrative relative to the opportunities by self dealing benefits, that there are shades of 476 AD.

I would suggest that this is the base issue to which this thread is arm wrestling, especially with retirees. Keep up the good work challenging govt for us, but we might not have the same passion for the issue that others have. .

[sounding]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

I agree with the bold point above, whole heartedly. However, the issue being questioned is a soft event, not a hard event. Type 1 error, false positive, on a classification issue of safety, which didn't affect the outcome, which also didn't last long. I have had two different careers, and to a lay person, what I see as a significant professional issue, the lay person does not.. . is the Type 1 Error significant to the outcome?

Also realize that referees work for the NFL, and the NFL as a sports entertainment and marketing organization, also uses Type 1 errors to effect outcomes, but at the edges, (most times) and yet viewership and money keeps rolling in. . . The Type 1 errors are easy to see if you know where to look. Is the NFL type 1 errors significant to our daily lives? to the lay person, no, to the professional football participant, yes. . .

I have this exact issue with government financial data, with revisions and methodology changes for accuracy? yes, they are purely incompetent with respect to accuracy,, more about presentation to pay or not pay for certain outcomes. Its glaringly obvious that the imputed numbers are grossly false and misleading, but that is the sign that the country and government is too big to management, and the government is now too lucrative relative to the opportunities by self dealing benefits, that there are shades of 476 AD.

I would suggest that this is the base issue to which this thread is arm wrestling, especially with retirees. Keep up the good work challenging govt for us, but we might not have the same passion for the issue that others have. .

I'm only reporting and confirming (as many others are doing) that the NHC is loosening the rules, which in the end, inflates hurricane numbers. Remember, the longest serving NHC Director is warning the public of this dangerous trend ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30kWv95kF_4 ... which only serves to further inflame the fake climate crisis.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by sounding

I'm only reporting and confirming (as many others are doing) that the NHC is loosening the rules, which in the end, inflates hurricane numbers. Remember, the longest serving NHC Director is warning the public of this dangerous trend ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30kWv95kF_4 ... which only serves to further inflame the fake climate crisis.

I understand, are they loosening the rules for a political outcome? most likely, as everyone has pointed out, I just pointed out other self serving examples, where everyone is indirectly affected, you and I both, and its a political survival tactic, as we all learn, to advance, we please our boss. In organization behavior studies, as an organization grows and ages, it moves from the original entrepreneur disruptive shiny new status to control and conformity or otherwise it breaks apart. It's the normal course of human organizational behavior, success by herding, and following. And as I stated, a professional sees what lay people do not. . .

and if you inspect the sunspot hurricane graph and just pause a minute, we are seeing a high level of sunspots and geomagnetic storms currently. predictive? depends upon where one wants to look, as coincidental may not be causative provable, but it can be predictive.

will be going to a weather group meeting as soon as we can get there, mostly because of being a data hoarder, both paper and electrons, in case i get an analytical scratch to itch.