More accurate rain forecast needed

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #31  
Old 07-21-2024, 06:37 AM
mrf6969 mrf6969 is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: here full time
Posts: 518
Thanks: 34
Thanked 393 Times in 177 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Fox View Post
I have been using the weather.com website for years and, at this time of year, they always start off by predicting a high chance of rain in the afternoon which, quite often, drops away dramatically

For example, at 3pm this afternoon (2pm in brackets) they showed the following chance of rain:

5pm - 41% (76%)
6pm - 71% (98%)
7pm - 79% (98%)
8pm - 71% (68%)

so, in the space of an hour, their prediction for rain at 6pm and 7pm dropped from a confident "almost certain" 98% to considerably less.

To put it another way, their prediction of "no rain" at 6pm has soared from 2% to 29%!

I know weather forecasting is an inaccurate science, but they can see what's coming from hundreds of miles away so why can't they be a little more accurate for what's going to happen in just a few hours?

Their percentages for rain do this almost every day - go on-line in the morning and they will predict a very high chance of rain, yet a few hours later it will most likely have plummeted

It's almost as if they start off with exactly the same figures every day, ignoring all of their instruments, then crank them down as time goes on, just to give themselves something to do

Anyway, what sites do you use for weather in the next 24 hours?

Thank you
You are right as the weather peeps seem to have a hard time. You never know when to put on your rubbers.
  #32  
Old 07-21-2024, 06:41 AM
Girlcopper Girlcopper is offline
Gold member
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,177
Thanks: 70
Thanked 1,639 Times in 637 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Fox View Post
I have been using the weather.com website for years and, at this time of year, they always start off by predicting a high chance of rain in the afternoon which, quite often, drops away dramatically

For example, at 3pm this afternoon (2pm in brackets) they showed the following chance of rain:

5pm - 41% (76%)
6pm - 71% (98%)
7pm - 79% (98%)
8pm - 71% (68%)

so, in the space of an hour, their prediction for rain at 6pm and 7pm dropped from a confident "almost certain" 98% to considerably less.

To put it another way, their prediction of "no rain" at 6pm has soared from 2% to 29%!

I know weather forecasting is an inaccurate science, but they can see what's coming from hundreds of miles away so why can't they be a little more accurate for what's going to happen in just a few hours?

Their percentages for rain do this almost every day - go on-line in the morning and they will predict a very high chance of rain, yet a few hours later it will most likely have plummeted

It's almost as if they start off with exactly the same figures every day, ignoring all of their instruments, then crank them down as time goes on, just to give themselves something to do

Anyway, what sites do you use for weather in the next 24 hours?

Thank you
Who cares?? Just carry an umbrella. Simple
  #33  
Old 07-21-2024, 06:49 AM
Janie123 Janie123 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 235
Thanks: 49
Thanked 112 Times in 75 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Fox View Post
I have been using the weather.com website for years and, at this time of year, they always start off by predicting a high chance of rain in the afternoon which, quite often, drops away dramatically

For example, at 3pm this afternoon (2pm in brackets) they showed the following chance of rain:

5pm - 41% (76%)
6pm - 71% (98%)
7pm - 79% (98%)
8pm - 71% (68%)

so, in the space of an hour, their prediction for rain at 6pm and 7pm dropped from a confident "almost certain" 98% to considerably less.

To put it another way, their prediction of "no rain" at 6pm has soared from 2% to 29%!

I know weather forecasting is an inaccurate science, but they can see what's coming from hundreds of miles away so why can't they be a little more accurate for what's going to happen in just a few hours?

Their percentages for rain do this almost every day - go on-line in the morning and they will predict a very high chance of rain, yet a few hours later it will most likely have plummeted

It's almost as if they start off with exactly the same figures every day, ignoring all of their instruments, then crank them down as time goes on, just to give themselves something to do

Anyway, what sites do you use for weather in the next 24 hours?

Thank you
I believe that percentage is not that you will get rain, it is that a percentage of the area will get rain.
  #34  
Old 07-21-2024, 07:06 AM
Andyb Andyb is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 320
Thanks: 82
Thanked 455 Times in 175 Posts
Default

Weather.com and weather channel are nothing but ads. Accu-weather is the best.
  #35  
Old 07-21-2024, 07:18 AM
NoMo50 NoMo50 is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 828
Thanks: 26
Thanked 1,213 Times in 493 Posts
Default

In central Florida in the summer, if you predict a 50% chance of afternoon showers, you will be correct 100% of the time!
  #36  
Old 07-21-2024, 07:59 AM
Nana2Teddy Nana2Teddy is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 761
Thanks: 990
Thanked 306 Times in 209 Posts
Default

Last night’s thunderstorm with the insane non-stop lightning was the worst we’ve experienced since moving here to DeLuna in December 2022. I was seriously terrified! We had planned to take a golf cart ride to Brownwood for the last hour of Rocky and the Rollers, but it was starting to look kinda iffy weather-wise by 8 so we decided to stay home at the last minute. By 8:40 the storm had hit with a vengeance and lasted at least two hours. We were so thankful we hadn’t gone out. The Weather Bug app had said 65% chance of rain, but it rarely happens here in our village as predicted.
  #37  
Old 07-21-2024, 08:11 AM
sounding sounding is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Calumet Grove
Posts: 1,280
Thanks: 734
Thanked 1,014 Times in 634 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy View Post
Last night’s thunderstorm with the insane non-stop lightning was the worst we’ve experienced since moving here to DeLuna in December 2022. I was seriously terrified! We had planned to take a golf cart ride to Brownwood for the last hour of Rocky and the Rollers, but it was starting to look kinda iffy weather-wise by 8 so we decided to stay home at the last minute. By 8:40 the storm had hit with a vengeance and lasted at least two hours. We were so thankful we hadn’t gone out. The Weather Bug app had said 65% chance of rain, but it rarely happens here in our village as predicted.
Florida is the lightning capital of the U.S. However, Lake Maracaibo in Venezuela sees lightning strikes nearly 300 days per year. Regarding POP (probability of precipitation), that will be the opening subject, tomorrow (Jul 22) at 1 PM at the Bridgeport Rec Ctr - for the Science & Technology Club - for a presentation called How Hurricane Identification Philosophy Is Changing.
  #38  
Old 07-21-2024, 09:57 AM
dpmers dpmers is offline
Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 91
Thanks: 51
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Default

Use the app Radar Now, very detailed and accurate
  #39  
Old 07-21-2024, 10:06 AM
Regorp Regorp is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 472
Thanks: 775
Thanked 258 Times in 169 Posts
Default Weather

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Fox View Post
I have been using the weather.com website for years and, at this time of year, they always start off by predicting a high chance of rain in the afternoon which, quite often, drops away dramatically

For example, at 3pm this afternoon (2pm in brackets) they showed the following chance of rain:

5pm - 41% (76%)
6pm - 71% (98%)
7pm - 79% (98%)
8pm - 71% (68%)

so, in the space of an hour, their prediction for rain at 6pm and 7pm dropped from a confident "almost certain" 98% to considerably less.

To put it another way, their prediction of "no rain" at 6pm has soared from 2% to 29%!

I know weather forecasting is an inaccurate science, but they can see what's coming from hundreds of miles away so why can't they be a little more accurate for what's going to happen in just a few hours?

Their percentages for rain do this almost every day - go on-line in the morning and they will predict a very high chance of rain, yet a few hours later it will most likely have plummeted

It's almost as if they start off with exactly the same figures every day, ignoring all of their instruments, then crank them down as time goes on, just to give themselves something to do

Anyway, what sites do you use for weather in the next 24 hours?

Thank you
Agreed. Friday July 20, 2024 the weather.com app said no rain late day, but a very large thunderous, lightening filled storm dropped 2 inches of windy rain in our village. So hard to believe the forecasted hour by hour info. I thank God for the rain since he is really in control.
  #40  
Old 07-21-2024, 02:30 PM
bark4me bark4me is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 300
Thanks: 251
Thanked 127 Times in 79 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Fox View Post
I have been using the weather.com website for years and, at this time of year, they always start off by predicting a high chance of rain in the afternoon which, quite often, drops away dramatically

For example, at 3pm this afternoon (2pm in brackets) they showed the following chance of rain:

5pm - 41% (76%)
6pm - 71% (98%)
7pm - 79% (98%)
8pm - 71% (68%)

so, in the space of an hour, their prediction for rain at 6pm and 7pm dropped from a confident "almost certain" 98% to considerably less.

To put it another way, their prediction of "no rain" at 6pm has soared from 2% to 29%!

I know weather forecasting is an inaccurate science, but they can see what's coming from hundreds of miles away so why can't they be a little more accurate for what's going to happen in just a few hours?

Their percentages for rain do this almost every day - go on-line in the morning and they will predict a very high chance of rain, yet a few hours later it will most likely have plummeted

It's almost as if they start off with exactly the same figures every day, ignoring all of their instruments, then crank them down as time goes on, just to give themselves something to do

Anyway, what sites do you use for weather in the next 24 hours?

Thank you
It's Florida. Get used to it. The weather will change in 15 mins
  #41  
Old 07-21-2024, 02:58 PM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 10,041
Thanks: 8,063
Thanked 11,209 Times in 3,739 Posts
Default

Well I've lived here for five years. I've learned: this is the rainy season, and it started a month ago. It starts with rain in the mornings or early afternoons, thus completely ruining your day. It progresses abruptly to mid or late afternoons into evening, completely ruining your night. So for a couple of months every year, count on it being too hot or wet to do anything outdoors at night, or too hot or wet to do anything in the day, with scattered "both" throughout the two-month period.
  #42  
Old 07-21-2024, 02:58 PM
Stu from NYC Stu from NYC is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 15,055
Thanks: 1,251
Thanked 16,049 Times in 6,272 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Girlcopper View Post
Who cares?? Just carry an umbrella. Simple
Last study said 87% of the population over 21 cared about the weather and wished they would get it right more often. Interestingly females cared more than males.
  #43  
Old 07-21-2024, 03:03 PM
Dusty_Star's Avatar
Dusty_Star Dusty_Star is offline
Gold member
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 1,360
Thanks: 10
Thanked 918 Times in 459 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy View Post
Last night’s thunderstorm with the insane non-stop lightning was the worst we’ve experienced since moving here to DeLuna in December 2022. I was seriously terrified! We had planned to take a golf cart ride to Brownwood for the last hour of Rocky and the Rollers, but it was starting to look kinda iffy weather-wise by 8 so we decided to stay home at the last minute. By 8:40 the storm had hit with a vengeance and lasted at least two hours. We were so thankful we hadn’t gone out. The Weather Bug app had said 65% chance of rain, but it rarely happens here in our village as predicted.

You're right, yesterday at one point I saw a 30% chance of rain, so I thought - no rain today 70% good odds. Holy moly! It took a while to get here, but when it did...hang on.
  #44  
Old 07-21-2024, 03:59 PM
sounding sounding is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Calumet Grove
Posts: 1,280
Thanks: 734
Thanked 1,014 Times in 634 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusty_Star View Post
You're right, yesterday at one point I saw a 30% chance of rain, so I thought - no rain today 70% good odds. Holy moly! It took a while to get here, but when it did...hang on.
POP (probability of precipitation) forecasts are very misleading -- plus they can't be verified because there are no rain gauges in most places on earth. For example ... a 100% POP forecasts can verify if only 0.01" fell on one house - within the designated forecast area ... and if there was no rain gauge at that house it won't be recorded as a hit. Plus ... POP forecasts DO NOT infer rain Intensity or Duration -- but only a Yes/No event. Learn more tomorrow, July 22 at 1 PM at the Bridgeport Rec Ctr ... and learn about the 2 houses that caught fire from last night's lightning storms.
  #45  
Old 07-21-2024, 04:12 PM
Accidental1 Accidental1 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 123
Thanks: 50
Thanked 86 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sounding View Post
1. The answer as to why the rain forecasts stink is reviewed in the weather club's talk called "why the european weather model is best" ... Which is next given august 19 at 10 am at everglades for the science & tech club - south.

2. Even though the euro model is better, we are still far from accurate daily rain forecasts due to (1) lack of sufficient data and (2) lack of knowledge of how clouds work.

3. With a few trillion dollars injected into improving weather data & science, we could be much closer to better forecasts, but we instead spend it on the fake climate crisis.
cmafb
Closed Thread

Tags
rain, hours, chance, 98%, 6pm


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:35 PM.