NEEM - The Greatest Climate Secret

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So be it. If it is a hoax, we have wasted a lot of time and money. If it's not we've saved the planet. Now let me think about this. I've decided given the choice I think I'd rather waste the money. It's not like we haven't burned money before like bridges to nowhere.
It is not simply a matter of wasting money, but of lowering the standard of living, increase the gap between the have and have nots, and very likely decrease the life span of those in developing countries. Were it like betting a 100 chip on a blackjack hand, I may feel differently BUT it is very different than that. It is not simply about risking money.
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Old 01-17-2024, 02:28 PM
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The study I just read was done in 2008. Has this been publicized?
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So be it. If it is a hoax, we have wasted a lot of time and money. If it's not we've saved the planet. Now let me think about this. I've decided given the choice I think I'd rather waste the money. It's not like we haven't burned money before like bridges to nowhere.
We all like to waste someone else’s money. Why? cause we don’t have to work for it.
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https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2...arbon-dioxide/
And too much CO2 has an opposite effect in greenhouse it also requires correct light nutrients and water
Zeke likes to make up scary stuff. I prefer actual data. Seeing is believing ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ8Ws8ZrleE
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Old 01-17-2024, 06:43 PM
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Yes, I believe that HE has things under control.
I wonder what is the chance in % that God is a HE. And what is the chance that God is a SHE?
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Like I said and I will repeat it; save the planet from what? In what way have we influenced Climate Change? If you wish to address air pollution and man's contribution toward it, then I can see some merit in the purposed goal of cleaning up the world. If you are suggesting that we can in any way/manor change the climatic cycles that have been recurring since the beginning of time, then I believe you are talking pure folly. Throwing trillions of taxpayer dollars at research to prove that man has or can influence climate change, is about as ludicrous as giving money to criminals to prevent them from committing crime. Since NO ONE has been able to prove that mankind has any effect on the cyclic changes in climate, I see absolutely no legitimate reason for American citizens to waste money by giving it to someone that produces absolutely nothing lucrative or productive, just to prove the negative. If you believe so sincerely about making the world a better place, do something productive like planting a tree, or you can do something else like one joker said a few years ago, by putting more air in your tires so that you get more miles per gallon of fuel.
Underinflated tires cause accidents from bad steering AND lower the miles per gallon for a vehicle.
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Old 01-17-2024, 07:15 PM
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In before lockdown. Quoting from "Epoch Times" is equal to announcing that you believe conspiracy theories, you are an extremist, you don't believe in compromise, you don't believe in science, you don't believe in anything factual unless your favorite youtube conspiracy theorist states that they agree with the facts. Which - they don't.

Meanwhile, back in reality:

Climate change exists. Normal people around the world know this is a fact, it's not an opinion. The contribution of human activities to this climate change is what's debated.

My opinion: we contribute to it. We don't cause it. But we certainly contribute to it. We contribute to pollution significantly. We cause most of the planet's waste. We contribute to most of the planet's destruction of rainforests, which is a main component of our planet's ecosystem. We contribute 100% to the depletion of natural gas and oil deep within the planet. All of that oil and gas is then used for plastics - which doesn't decompose, or for fuel, which is exhausted into the air, which pollutes the planet.

I am not opposed to using fossil fuels for plastics production, though I am also in favor of seeking alternatives to it. I'm in favor of leaving less waste, and creating less toxic exhaust in the air. But I also recognize that there's no way we'll really be capable of ditching fossil fuels entirely. So I think we just need to be more prudent in how it's used, AND we need to work more on alternative energy and preservation sources such as hydropower, thermal heating, more efficient insulation, solar and wind energy. We already have nuclear energy. We need to continue to study it and make it more efficient, safer, and find safer methods of elimination of nuclear waste. We need more scientists for that. That means stronger education, and the means for students who don't have money, but show interest in ability in the sciences, to get those advanced courses and degrees.

Climate change isn't a one-cause, one-solution situation. The sooner we can get people on board with this fact, the sooner we can come up with solutions that improve our planet, with the least negative impact on our daily lives.
I believe that the oil and gas industry is like the tobacco industry, in that, they DO know that the fossil fuel burning is responsible for Climate Change problems. It is just easier for the oil and gas industry to pretend that there is NOT a problem than it would be to admit a problem and revamp their industry toward less pollution. They are a HUGE industry and like a HUGE ocean liner, it is difficult for them to change course.
.........And like the tobacco industry, it will require a strong government and social response to cause them to change.
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CO2 is part of the solution -- and more is better -- which is why greenhouses apply CO2 enrichment. It is the gas of life.
That is true - up to a POINT. And like ALL things.........too MUCH of a good thing is a BAD THING.
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Old 01-17-2024, 07:35 PM
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Climate change isn't a one-cause, one-solution situation. The sooner we can get people on board with this fact, the sooner we can come up with solutions that improve our planet, with the least negative impact on our daily lives.
All True!
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CO2 is part of the solution -- and more is better -- which is why greenhouses apply CO2 enrichment. It is the gas of life.
For plants.?.?. Don't see many HUMANS choosing to live in greenhouses. Do you?
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Zeke likes to make up scary stuff. I prefer actual data. Seeing is believing ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ8Ws8ZrleE
If you really preferred ACTUAL dara, I would think you would choose to get it from the 97% of scientists worldwide instead of the "freaky fringe". Just mho.
And if you agree that seeing is believing, like I said earlier in the thread, then travel extensively and witness the glaciers melting, permafrost thawing, coral reefs dying, rivers drying, farm land turning to desert. I have seen enough evidence first hand, and I have seen and read far more from legitament sources. Our species is responsible for global warming. It is NOT a hoax. It is real.
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Old 01-18-2024, 01:25 AM
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I wonder what is the chance in % that God is a HE. And what is the chance that God is a SHE?

Ask devil where you see him…
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Old 01-18-2024, 05:15 AM
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I wonder what is the chance in % that God is a HE. And what is the chance that God is a SHE?
Very possibly a 'She'.

And 'She' could be a Lesbian as well.
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We all like to waste someone else’s money. Why? cause we don’t have to work for it.
When the government waste money, it not someone else money it's everyone's money.
And this is not a political issue there are always two sides the ones that believe in spend, spend, spend and the other side who don't want to spend a dime on anything unless it affects themselves directly. The unfortunate thing at the end of the day is politicians control the purse strings. And no matter what they tell you why they are taking one position or another, the truth is they just want to be reelected.
I believe spending money on cleaning up the planet is a good thing if not for future generations, but for us and if it cost responsible spending and time, I'm alright with that. I know there are people on the other side of this that believe man has no affect on the climate change and even if they did there is nothing, we can do about it.
For good or bad that is how democracy works.
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Old 01-18-2024, 07:54 AM
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If you really preferred ACTUAL dara, I would think you would choose to get it from the 97% of scientists worldwide instead of the "freaky fringe". Just mho.
And if you agree that seeing is believing, like I said earlier in the thread, then travel extensively and witness the glaciers melting, permafrost thawing, coral reefs dying, rivers drying, farm land turning to desert. I have seen enough evidence first hand, and I have seen and read far more from legitament sources. Our species is responsible for global warming. It is NOT a hoax. It is real.
To add to "farm land turning to desert", that is the DRIVING FORCE for illegal migrants crossing our southern border and then some getting bused to NY City and Chicago.
......So, it is a NOW problem, not a future problem.
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