[RICH1]

This smells like Q …. time to stop these conspiracy theories! This post has gone on way too long

[Steve]

Originally Posted by sounding

Increased atmospheric CO2 prevented Hurricane Ian from attaining Category 5 status. According to the NHC and Weather Channel all the right conditions were in place ... very warm ocean temperatures, very humid air, and the La Nina in the Eastern Pacific. So it must be the higher CO2 levels.

If we could just replace the carbon dioxide with carbon monoxide all our troubles would be over.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by RICH1

This smells like Q …. time to stop these conspiracy theories! This post has gone on way too long

Sorry, didn't realize it was up to you to make that decision

Actually, it's been quite entertaining

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Why, repeat WHY, would we follow "leaders" who have a vested interest in promoting human activity as a cause of climate change??????

The EPA "leaders" want to keep their government jobs-----imagine someone in the EPA coming out and publicly stating that human activity has done nothing to change the climate----"Gone in Sixty Seconds" would be a gross underestimate of their longevity.

Imagine a climate scientist putting forth a proposal for a government grant with the premise that he intends to show human activity causing climate change is a myth----can anyone spell a grant of ZERO

Can you imagine a professor of climatology at one our universities (bastions of free speech) teaching their students that anthropogenic climate change is a myth?

And then the truly indoctrinated tout that "90%+ of climate scientists agree that human activity is driving climate change". First of all, that number has been shown to be false and secondly, DOH!!!! no kidding

And those are just the people trying to preserve their salaries. Then we can move on to those that stand to make hundreds of millions for this farce....

The people who have a vested, financial interest are not the people who work for the EPA but the fossil fuel industry that has billions of dollars at stake, and they're the ones funding climate change denial like their funding of conservative think tanks that propagandize and politicize the issue like the Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute. Listen to a climate scientist rather than your own rigid political views. But you won't listen despite all the links to scientifically-based information that I have posted in this forum. It won't affect you down the road because you won't be around much longer, so no matter what someone says that is contrary to what you believe, you won't change:

"Would 2022 be considered a typical hurricane season?

It’s a little early to say. So far in 2022, we've had nine named storms. We've had four hurricanes and two major hurricanes, including Ian, which made landfall on the Gulf Coast of Florida as a Category 4. So, if the hurricane season ended today, it would be considered a below-normal hurricane season. But we still have two full months left in the official hurricane season, and it would not be surprising if we saw six more named storms and or four more hurricanes."

There's more: Following Fiona and Ian, what’s next for hurricanes in 2022? | CU Boulder Today | University of Colorado Boulder

[justjim]

Didn’t know we had so many weather scientists here on TOTV. Not!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

Listen to a climate scientist rather than your own rigid political views:

Would 2022 be considered a typical hurricane season?

"It’s a little early to say. So far in 2022, we've had nine named storms. We've had four hurricanes and two major hurricanes, including Ian, which made landfall on the Gulf Coast of Florida as a Category 4. So, if the hurricane season ended today, it would be considered a below-normal hurricane season. But we still have two full months left in the official hurricane season, and it would not be surprising if we saw six more named storms and or four more hurricanes."

There's more: Following Fiona and Ian, what’s next for hurricanes in 2022? | CU Boulder Today | University of Colorado Boulder

Ridiculous

This has nothing to do with political views, it's just the pure, unadulterated science that has been pushed aside by those with an agenda. And the sad part is that it's not all that hard to understand. I've tried multiple times to educate some people, but they are so indoctrinated that all they can do is repeat the same old, already proven false, talking points.

The 2022 hurricane season???? Really???? Who cares???? What does that have to do with 100,000-year climate cycles. Same goes for those who repeatedly cite "the last 8 years", or even "since we kept weather records"

Hey, what the heck---let's go and spend $257 trillion by 2050 to "combat" the power of the sun, Earth's orbit, and the tilt of Earth's axis. Actually, the word "tilt" is quite apropos----the whole climate change agenda is totally Quixotic.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I believe that IAN was only about 2 mph from being a Cat 5 hurricane. Close enough for me, I will consider it a 5.

Since it hardly affected me more than a thunder storm, I will consider it as a shower...

[OhioBuckeye]

Well just me Global Warming is a Mother Nature thing, nobody will fix it with money. The whole world have to be on the same page & one country can’t fix it. This happens about every 100 yrs.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

China's current is to build massive amounts of coal fired electricity generators...

Europe is now burning wood to stay warm...

Is that what you're talking about?

Perhaps, they are using GREEN wood to stay warm, thus the label, "Green energy?"

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You mean like the Great Barrier Reef that has actually INCREASED in size by over 25% in the last decade?

And the fact that the US land covered by forests have been INCREASING for decades?

Stabilization of deforestation happened around 1900 and forests have been stable or have increased ever since...

Please explain OR give a link about how US forests can possibly be INCREASING in area when we are very aware of all the GREAT forest fires that have occurred in California and other western states. Also, the population of the US is INCREASING, which causes more cities to cut down trees in exchange for concrete buildings and roads. This is also why the large cities had record or near-record temperatures this summer. We can see this process of cutting down trees for homes and roads right here in the south end of The Villages.

I personally have a friend in Wisconsin who after any rain and wind storm the local ASH trees are falling down frequently because they are hallowed out by ASH beetles. The pine bark beetle has ravaged pine trees west of the Rockies. And that beetle has hurt pine trees in Florida even.

In a previous post, I have disagreed and stated that the Great Barrier Reef has its corral dying as stated in an NPR report. NPR can be sued for false reporting. So, I feel that they are the better source. Also, I have seen pictures of bleached WHITE coral dead and bemoaned by divers on the GB Reef. All the world's reefs will be 90% dead in 100 years per scientists' predictions.

[DDToto41]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Why, repeat WHY, would we follow "leaders" who have a vested interest in promoting human activity as a cause of climate change??????

The EPA "leaders" want to keep their government jobs-----imagine someone in the EPA coming out and publicly stating that human activity has done nothing to change the climate----"Gone in Sixty Seconds" would be a gross underestimate of their longevity.

Imagine a climate scientist putting forth a proposal for a government grant with the premise that he intends to show human activity causing climate change is a myth----can anyone spell a grant of ZERO

Can you imagine a professor of climatology at one our universities (bastions of free speech) teaching their students that anthropogenic climate change is a myth?

And then the truly indoctrinated tout that "90%+ of climate scientists agree that human activity is driving climate change". First of all, that number has been shown to be false and secondly, DOH!!!! no kidding

And those are just the people trying to preserve their salaries. Then we can move on to those that stand to make hundreds of millions for this farce....

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

China's current is to build massive amounts of coal fired electricity generators...

Europe is now burning wood to stay warm...

Is that what you're talking about?

I believe that China makes the world's most solar energy panels. And Europe is going to HAVE TO burn some processed wood pellets on a TEMPORARY EMERGENCY basis because they became too dependent on Russian natural gas and Russian cut them off. They will in the future move to nuclear electrical generating plants, solar electrical generation, and get other sources of natural gas.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Ridiculous

This has nothing to do with political views, it's just the pure, unadulterated science that has been pushed aside by those with an agenda. And the sad part is that it's not all that hard to understand. I've tried multiple times to educate some people, but they are so indoctrinated that all they can do is repeat the same old, already proven false, talking points.

The 2022 hurricane season???? Really???? Who cares???? What does that have to do with 100,000-year climate cycles. Same goes for those who repeatedly cite "the last 8 years", or even "since we kept weather records"

Hey, what the heck---let's go and spend $257 trillion by 2050 to "combat" the power of the sun, Earth's orbit, and the tilt of Earth's axis. Actually, the word "tilt" is quite apropos----the whole climate change agenda is totally Quixotic.

"Who cares?????" about 100,000-year climate cycles??? Maybe someone that is immortal or plans on living for 1,000,000 years. But, for a normal senior with around a 20-year lifespan left, they are more likely to care about the scientists' prediction that the earth will continue WARMING for the next 30 years. And the FACT the last 8 years have been the world's warmest on record since 1850. I for one, care about that because it "calls out" the problem, which is the 1st step in finding a solution.

The general framework of the many solutions to the problem of Global Warming is to wean the world AWAY from FOSSIL fuels and toward CLEAN energy sources like nuclear, solar, wind, tides, and waterfalls. Plus yet undiscovered future sources.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

"Who cares?????" about 100,000-year climate cycles??? Maybe someone that is immortal or plans on living for 1,000,000 years. But, for a normal senior with around a 20-year lifespan left, they are more likely to care about the scientists' prediction that the earth will continue WARMING for the next 30 years. And the FACT the last 8 years have been the world's warmest on record since 1850. I for one, care about that because it "calls out" the problem, which is the 1st step in finding a solution.

The general framework of the many solutions to the problem of Global Warming is to wean the world AWAY from FOSSIL fuels and toward CLEAN energy sources like nuclear, solar, wind, tides, and waterfalls. Plus yet undiscovered future sources.

Keep repeating the same garbage, it's still WRONG. PERIOD.

And aren't those the same scientists who warned of an impending ice age in the 1970's?
Or are they the same scientists who claimed the polar ice caps would be gone by 2010?

What if I were to say the 8 years from 1842-1849 were even warmer? There's no way to know. But it is IRRELEVANT in the scheme of 100,000 year cycles

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by sounding

Well then using that logic, and regarding Major Hurricanes (MH) ... we had 7 in 2020, 4 in 2021, and 2 in 2022 (this year). Looks like CO2 is over-performing. Let's add more CO2.

Just need to keep the Saharan(dry) dust up. August was a quiet month for storms and some days the sky in TV was as clear as mud in August.