[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Reminds me of this clip. lol

https://youtu.be/v5N3fKVz-Z4?t=84

be careful what ya ask for.

[sounding]

While flaming cars are interesting -- this season's hurricane season is way below expectations -- which is partially because the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years. Worse yet, NOAA refuses to acknowledge that the Euro Model has been far more correct about Ian than the American GFS model -- this is because the American model still wrongly believes CO2 controls the climate. You can watch the Euro model out-perform the GFS via Windy.Com

[Keefelane66]

I saw about 10 different spaghetti models early this morning now about 5 approaching storm may hit between Ft Myers and Tampa.
No one's talking CO2 but you.

[billethkid]

Weather forecasting is as accurate as measuring clouds.

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That's because the media has done a great job of hiding NOAA's suicidal belief that CO2 controls weather and climate. This is why the GFS has been very wrong on Ian, while the Euro model has been more accurate from the start. Here is some background about the failing GFS modeling system, which the media ignores -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvcoX2N2g1E

[sounding]

We can measure clouds -- but we can not accurate duplicate them in computer models. Worse yet, is when you add CO2 as contributing factor -- the models fail even faster.

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by carlsondg

let's blame global warming - or is it global cooling - I forget

Ether way you are right,, just a matter of waiting for the proper time,, remember when we were told ,, by experts that by now we would be freezing starving ,in the dark??

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by sounding

For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

Not exactly right...Higher global temperatures *cause* higher atmospheric CO2 and H2O which causes decreased temperature deltas in the atmosphere which diminishes turbulent weather. Global temperature and atmospheric CO2 is very low compared to 600K year average...By about 9F from optimal for biolife.

[sounding]

Bingo - you are correct. My CO2 comment was meant to get folks thinking about the absurdities of man-made climate change. Yes, a warmer world does reduce the Equator-Pole temperature gradient, which in turn reduces severe weather -- this is because the Poles warm faster than the Equator. You are also correct in that we are currently experiencing very low CO2 levels compared to the past, which is why greenhouses pump in extra CO2 to make plant growth more efficient. Due to our poor public climate education system, very few realize that we are in 2.5 million year Pleistocene Ice Age, where most of earth's history had no polar ice caps. This and much more is discussed in the Villages Weather Club ... The Villages Weather Club

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

Ether way you are right,, just a matter of waiting for the proper time,, remember when we were told ,, by experts that by now we would be freezing starving ,in the dark??

Yes and Soundings is still trying to convince us summers are getting cooler

[sounding]

Yes -- that is correct -- the summers are getting cooler. It is obvious to those who look at data. Just go to the "Florida Climate Center" and look at the trend of "maximum" temperatures. But that's just in Florida. It can also be seen at the national level just by looking at archived data stored by NOAA -- all located at Asheville, NC -- where I used to coordinate with while in the Air Force. For those who don't have the time to download, plot, and analyze the data, here is a short video of what you'll find ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs-K_tadveI

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by sounding

While flaming cars are interesting -- this season's hurricane season is way below expectations -- which is partially because the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years. Worse yet, NOAA refuses to acknowledge that the Euro Model has been far more correct about Ian than the American GFS model -- this is because the American model still wrongly believes CO2 controls the climate. You can watch the Euro model out-perform the GFS via Windy.Com

Agree the EURO Models out perform the GFS Models. Models are built/programmed based upon atmospheric condtions and sea water temperagture at the time of the storm with super computers. Never heard that these models has anything which would link direct affect of CO2 on present condions.

Original post now ironic. Florida is now facing 155 mph storm and if track stayed at or near Tampa, people in TV would be facing possible catastrophic damages.

[sounding]

True, but only for those who choose to live along nature's playground -- the sea shore. This is why we live in TV land. The Euro currently says this ... Ian is forecast to pass by TV midnight Thursday as it transitions from Cat 1 to TS as it hits Daytona Beach. Remember, Irma passed us a a weakening Cat 1 and changed to a TS after moving farther north. Winds for us are forecast sustained 35 mph and gusts to 60 mph. Plus, during Irma, we were on the right side (or dirty side) during its passage -- while with Ian we will be on the weaker side (the left side of movement). If the model holds true, I expect no worse conditions than what we had with Irma.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by sounding

Yes -- that is correct -- the summers are getting cooler. It is obvious to those who look at data. Just go to the "Florida Climate Center" and look at the trend of "maximum" temperatures. But that's just in Florida. It can also be seen at the national level just by looking at archived data stored by NOAA -- all located at Asheville, NC -- where I used to coordinate with while in the Air Force. For those who don't have the time to download, plot, and analyze the data, here is a short video of what you'll find ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs-K_tadveI

"Yes -- that is correct -- the summers are getting cooler. It is obvious to those who look at data. "


Umm, no, that is totally incorrect. Suggest more research with legitimate sources - not just from climate denier/conspiracy sites.

U.S. sweltered through third-hottest summer on record | National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by sounding

True, but only for those who choose to live along nature's playground -- the sea shore. This is why we live in TV land. The Euro currently says this ... Ian is forecast to pass by TV midnight Thursday as it transitions from Cat 1 to TS as it hits Daytona Beach. Remember, Irma passed us a a weakening Cat 1 and changed to a TS after moving farther north. Winds for us are forecast sustained 35 mph and gusts to 60 mph. Plus, during Irma, we were on the right side (or dirty side) during its passage -- while with Ian we will be on the weaker side (the left side of movement). If the model holds true, I expect no worse conditions than what we had with Irma.

What about the rainfall totals to an already saturated ground and are the retention ponds at near capacity? What say you.