[rubicon]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Gas cart stink............

They pollute the air we breath

jimbo: So is one to assume you also drive an electric car?

I keep reading on these pages that gas cart stink but short of going through a tunnel haven't had that experience. Nor have I had the experience of smelling gas fumes with my enclosures all tightly secured from the cold.

What I have experienced however is the elimination of my distance anxiety.

I loved my electric cart, the quiet of it, etc but The Villages's expansion stretched the viability of my battery operated unit beyond comfortable for me.

I only use my golf cart for golf. However I now schedule golf on either the north or south side of The villages to take advantage of the multiple courses offered and I do so without hesitation, something I would not do when I owned an electric cart.

Like all issues its a personal choice and there is no right or wrong only what suit you as an individual

[KennyP]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I know two people who have had a solar system installed and both of them said they "think" they get a little better mileage...but it wasn't enough to tell a big difference.

They both said that for the expense, if they knew then what they know now...they would have never done it.

Although I'm not in the market now for new batteries, when it's time I will definitely take a look at lithium, talk to others that have them...then crunch the numbers before I pull the trigger.

Solar is not the answer, you just cant put a big enough panel on the roof of your cart to get any distance or enough amps to charge the batteries.
Smoke and mirrors, don't believe the hype

[PaulDenise]

Who has the best prices on Trojans around here. I just need 2 for my RV.

[784caroline]

Just ordered 6 Trojan 875s....delivered, installed epa and state tax...$697...Gatorland Golf Carts in Ocala. 3rd set I have replaced and almost like clockwork they all die at 3 years.

[renrod]

Originally Posted by 784caroline

Just ordered 6 Trojan 875s....delivered, installed epa and state tax...$697...Gatorland Golf Carts in Ocala. 3rd set I have replaced and almost like clockwork they all die at 3 years.

Then why did you buy another set?

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by dietpepsi

this is EXACTLY what the salesman at the villages golf cart told me,,, he said going a long ride with it your going to have carbon monoxide problems in the cabin,, and NO they are not that much improvement in the noise, you can not have a radio on to be able to hear it.,, just salesmanship

That sounds like the dealer wanted to sell you an electric for whatever reason (more inventory, better commission etc). If the fumes from a gas cart would cause you "to have carbon monoxide (CO) problems in the cabin" I highly doubt they would be able to sell them plus you would find dead bodies scattered all over the road as CO KILLS (or at the least SICKENS) quite quickly and you cannot SMELL IT. I have experienced CO poisoning once years ago and I can assure you if that was happening you'd have heard about it on TV and by a recall from the manufacturer after the first lawsuit for wrongful death was filed.

What he PROBABLY said (or meant) was you can't avoid the odor of the exhaust which I also doubt and hope to find out sooner rather than later. To say you would have CO problems in gas carts is both alarmist and patently untrue. The odor of exhaust and carbon monoxide are 2 different issues. They can be related but in this case I would strongly think they are not.

[Jrs1958]

Usually if one battery goes bad you have to replace all batteries that are connected. Mixing old and new batteries doesn't work.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

We were recently looking at new gas golf carts at Villages Golfcarts.
I expressed a concern about the noise and about the stinky gas fumes.
The salesman told me it's impossible to avoid gas fumes no matter how new the golf cart is.

Agree very true

Originally Posted by rubicon

jimbo: So is one to assume you also drive an electric car?

Tesla on order


What I have experienced however is the elimination of my distance anxiety.

I loved my electric cart, the quiet of it, etc but The Villages's expansion stretched the viability of my battery operated unit beyond comfortable for me.

I only use my golf cart for golf. However I now schedule golf on either the north or south side of The villages to take advantage of the multiple courses offered and I do so without hesitation, something I would not do when I owned an electric cart.

Adding my solar system will get you 70 miles, is that not enough?

If you add lithium batteries 100-120 miles

Originally Posted by KennyP

Solar is not the answer, you just cant put a big enough panel on the roof of your cart to get any distance or enough amps to charge the batteries.
Smoke and mirrors, don't believe the hype

That was correct years ago but now it is the answer,

Originally Posted by 784caroline

Just ordered 6 Trojan 875s....delivered, installed epa and state tax...$697...Gatorland Golf Carts in Ocala. 3rd set I have replaced and almost like clockwork they all die at 3 years.

If they were maintain with solar 5 years + is the norm

Originally Posted by Jrs1958

Usually if one battery goes bad you have to replace all batteries that are connected. Mixing old and new batteries doesn't work.

correct unless they are within 6-9 months


If you doubt the viability of solar Ill be happy to talk about it and prove it works.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Less than two years ago I had six Ranger batteries in stall in my Club Car at the cost of about $1,200.
I was told at the time that I would be able to go 50-60 miles on a charge and that under normal use the batteries would last four to five years.
The batteries came with an 18 month warranty.
About four months ago I noticed that I was not getting the mileage I should so I checked the specific gravity of the batteries. I found that one battery had one dead cell. I called Battery Boys who installed the batteries and they told me that the warranty had expired a month before.
I was not happy, but I figured these things happen. I had them install a new battery for $200. When the tech installed them he suggested that if I have any more problems I get in touch with Trojan. He gave me the impression that this was not uncommon and to expect more trouble.
I contacted Trojan about the one battery not asking for anything and got a run around. They told me that along with properly watering the batteries, which I do religiously, I should also check the specific gravity once a month.
I'm not sure how this is going to prevent anything, but the next month I checked and found two dead cells one in each of two batteries.
I've been e-mailing back and forth with Trojan and all they'll say is they can't do anything because they are past warranty. What I asked for was a partial credit on the new batteries that I'm going to have to buy.The company suggested that I contact their Master Distributor to see if they can do anything.
I realize the warranty has expired, but it seems to be pretty unreasonable that three batteries all die within one or two months of the warranty expiring. It also seems strange to me that when I contact the company they suggest that I contact a distributor.
Anyroad, I'm just venting here, but I would suggest that anyone who is considering Ranger batteries, or any Trojan product for that matter consider this and think carefully about it.
Like I said, I got the impression for the tech that installed the battery that this is a fairly common occurrence with Ranger batteries.

I know you from billards. I think you're about as honest of a person that I've met here in TV, so if anyone reads this believe what Dr. Winston O.Boogle Jr. tells you. If you don't well it sounds like you're going to get taken for $1,000.+ too. Electric carts are expensive to replace batteries every 5 to 6 yrs. Personally I favor gas carts. Believe what Dr. Winston O. Boogle Jr. tells you & you'll save yourself a lot of money & if you don't, well, you just got taken!

[jimbo2012]

I know the Doc as well, I don't think honesty is the ? I agree he's honest.

But to say he's been taken isn't fair, those batteries cost $1,000 for a set because they have 35% more power.

Batteries go bad from time to time, stuff happens

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

That sounds like the dealer wanted to sell you an electric for whatever reason (more inventory, better commission etc). If the fumes from a gas cart would cause you "to have carbon monoxide (CO) problems in the cabin" I highly doubt they would be able to sell them plus you would find dead bodies scattered all over the road as CO KILLS (or at the least SICKENS) quite quickly and you cannot SMELL IT. I have experienced CO poisoning once years ago and I can assure you if that was happening you'd have heard about it on TV and by a recall from the manufacturer after the first lawsuit for wrongful death was filed.

What he PROBABLY said (or meant) was you can't avoid the odor of the exhaust which I also doubt and hope to find out sooner rather than later. To say you would have CO problems in gas carts is both alarmist and patently untrue. The odor of exhaust and carbon monoxide are 2 different issues. They can be related but in this case I would strongly think they are not.

The 2017 Yamaha has NO exhaust because they say you don't need one...until you put the enclosure down.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

The 2017 Yamaha has NO exhaust because they say you don't need one...until you put the enclosure down.

Huh? It has no exhaust? Wha? Hmmmm! Where does all the dirty stuff come out of? Sure looked like it did to me which is why some dealers advertise "exhaust pipe extensions for your New 2017 Yama-mama EFI." Never seen a combustion engine without some sort of exhaust! Maybe the dealer actually said "it's late in the day and I'm exhaust-less".

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

I know the Doc as well, I don't think honesty is the ? I agree he's honest.

But to say he's been taken isn't fair, those batteries cost $1,000 for a set because they have 35% more power.

Batteries go bad from time to time, stuff happens

I agree Jimbo, but I pout in what I was told were the best batteries made and three of the went dead in less than two years. I don't say that I've been taken. I think that every product made is going to have a few bad ones and I just happened to get three of the bad ones.

While I realize that the warranty is 18 months, I just consider it more then a bit unusual that I would have three batteries go in 22 months.

I would think that Trojan would want to stand by their product and make good in a situation like this.

I'm only asking for batteries at half price or at their cost. I would think that that would be worth it to the to protect their good name.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

....If the fumes from a gas cart would cause you "to have carbon monoxide (CO) problems in the cabin" I highly doubt they would be able to sell them plus you would find dead bodies scattered all over the road as CO KILLS (or at the least SICKENS) quite quickly and you cannot SMELL IT.

You deserve kudos for visualization. I think some of us may be mixing up smelly gas fumes with carbon monoxide problems.

[MorTech]

Not all batteries are the same. DPI makes a smart charger that has user selectable charge profiles depending on battery manufacture. Do not over or under water the battery. Trojan makes a single point watering system for about $200 and takes me literally 4 minutes each month to top off all batteries with $0.30 of distilled water...easier than pumping gas. Extreme heat kills batteries as well but investing in a smart charger (Like DPI or Lester - For older carts without smart chargers) and using the correct charge algorithm mode should yield the average Villages electric cart owner about 5-6 years of battery life.

http://www.dpipower.com/store/MNUL/General_Chargers.pdf