[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

This response is 100% wrong. Completely disagree. O.P. should make up their own mind.

Given the source of the response, it’s 100% predictable. He has beaten the dead horse to the point where you can’t even make fertilizer out of it.

[FloridaGuy66]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Firstly, you have to have all those coal burning power plants to recharge the "clean" vehicles.

Less than 3% of electricity in Florida is generated from coal.

[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by missyomama

I am looking to buy a used golf cart. Are there certain years that are a problem. My current cart is a 2011. It runs great but is very noisy and I need better seats with belts.

When I first got here everyone wanted to sell me a Yamaha, like do they have some sort of deal with Yamaha? I was shocked at how they kept pushing that brand. After I drove it, it was IMO, still too loud and I could smell the fumes. I went with a EZ-GO lithium. I can only say that as long as I’ve owned it, 5 years, I’ve never had even one minor issue and I’ve never even come close to using a full charge in one day. Even when I’ve taken it all the way from Sawgrass Grove to Orange Blossom and back it didn’t even use 1/2 the charge. Good luck on you search but as someone else said, check around at compare prices. How much are you really saving buying used vs new and is it worth the risk. I got mine as a “new” older model at a discount.( I bought a 2019 in 2021 but it was new and I even got to pick all my colors etc) I had to wait several months for it but they gave me a free loaner for the entire time. I went the TV golf carts. I think brand new out the door was just under 13K at that time.

[dtennent]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Excellent post, thoroughly explains the primary differences and pros/cons of the last 15 years of Yamaha models.

Concerns about our climate and environment are more reason to shy away from newer (id est - Lithium) carts is the incredible damage they wreak upon the environment.

Firstly, you have to have all those coal burning power plants to recharge the "clean" vehicles.

Then when the lithium carts reach the end of their lifespan, you have to dispose of these incredibly toxic, heavy metal leaching batteries. Imagine what's going to happen to your grandchildren's water supply! We are not even talking about the coal-burning, air-killing electricity required to keep electric carts "fueled!"

FYI Lithium is not a heavy metal but is a light alkali metal. Yes, batteries may also contain nickel, cobalt or iron - all are first row transition metals, not heavy metals. However, the lead in lead acid batteries found in all gasoline driven carts is a heavy metal. Both types of batteries can be recycled. In recent years,Tesla has done a lot to drive the recycling of lithium batteries. As the market for lithium batteries expands, this will only get better.



Also, while coal fired power plants have pollution abatement equipment, they are being replaced by natural gas plants for a variety of reasons including costs.

[mbene]

A friend just bought a new 2025 Yamaha Drive 2 last fall. It may not be as noisy as older gas carts but it's still noisy, and it stinks.

[KennyP]

all I have to say is "wow". I can see a lot of misconceptions and opinions.

I'll give my thoughts from a repair stand point

2007 to 2014-team rearend internal brake. These are really good cars, they got a bad rep because of some issue that were easy to fix or prevent, its just that the people working on them either didnt check or didnt want to check the areas of concern.

2015 and 2016- Yamaha only built this car for 2 years, came carbureted and Fuel injected same as the previous model. This car was a combo of 2005 and below G22 and the G29 till 2014. This is a great cart. Its not quiet, but a great cart.

2017 and up quiet tech....There are issues, again we run into where the people that work on them are not catching the issues and we see failures. Secondary clutch failures continue, but that is a yamaha part issue, not a repair person issue.
There are issue we can prevent, but some are out of our hands and all we can do is catch them early in the service of the cart.

Hope this helps a bit

[Whatnext]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

Less than 3% of electricity in Florida is generated from coal.

Originally Posted by dtennent

FYI Lithium is not a heavy metal but is a light alkali metal. Yes, batteries may also contain nickel, cobalt or iron - all are first row transition metals, not heavy metals. However, the lead in lead acid batteries found in all gasoline driven carts is a heavy metal. Both types of batteries can be recycled. In recent years,Tesla has done a lot to drive the recycling of lithium batteries. As the market for lithium batteries expands, this will only get better.



Also, while coal fired power plants have pollution abatement equipment, they are being replaced by natural gas plants for a variety of reasons including costs.

Please do not ruin an argument with pesky facts!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Whatnext

Please do not ruin an argument with pesky facts!

Facts are only as good as the source.