[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

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Bravo! Well done!

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

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Ah, our friend, Two Bills — and his wonderful, subtle, insightful, British sense of humor.

You spotted me. I do love a good pillow fight. I guess it shows. Just a pillow fight. Nothing meaner. (My money’s on the girl. )

Boomer

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

It's a good job nature and genetics decided Chihuahua's should be small.
If they were large dogs, they would eat Pit bulls for breakfast.
Dachshunds are stroppy little boogers as well.
It's the 'ankle snappers' you have to be careful of!

My Chihuahua Terrier mix would chase a sweet pit bull around the big field at a local private dog park while barking at it. The poor sweet pit bull mix received $700 worth of damages done by big dogs at the dog park. She recovered the first time, came back months later, and got bitten by a big dog. The total was $700. Most wounds to the face.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

My Chihuahua Terrier mix would chase a sweet pit bull around the big field at a local private dog park while barking at it. The poor sweet pit bull mix received $700 worth of damages done by big dogs at the dog park. She recovered the first time, came back months later, and got bitten by a big dog. The total was $700. Most wounds to the face.

Sorta like that scene in the movie "Patton" where his pit bull William was cowed and dominated by a bit of fluff owned by a British woman. Amusing, but what made it so is the fact that in it ran counter to the norm. Most of the time, cute little bits of fluff are the TARGET of pit bulls.

In a like vein, my brother swears that his cute little miniature dachshund chased an adult timber wolf from his yard. My brother has been known to exaggerate a bit now and then. But I suppose that, however unlikely, it IS possible. That little dog of his is a pretty take-charge kind of critter, usually dominating any group of (usually much larger) dogs.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Ah, our friend, Two Bills — and his wonderful, subtle, insightful, British sense of humor.

You spotted me. I do love a good pillow fight. I guess it shows. Just a pillow fight. Nothing meaner. (My money’s on the girl. )

Boomer

Which one?

[WharfRat]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

There are people in forums that stand off to the side- holding a big fan, always on the lookout for a spark they can fan into a flame. Seeing these fires flare- and Causing these fires to flare feeds some persistent hunger they have that is only satisfied when they see others unhappy. The other way they get the food to feed this weakness is by directly insulting others.

Totally agree! And I thought posts were supposed to be on topic and not personal. My ignore list is getting longer.

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

So, SOME Pit Bulls are okay, but others have to be eliminated?

No I’m just saying the breed needs to be eventually eliminated if that aggressiveness is hard wired in their genetic makeup. Let’s cut some slack to those who presently own pits but strictly enforce registration and strictly penalize noncompliance. A $50 fine for allowing your overly aggressive and uncontrolled pit to kill another owners dog is unjust

[Taltarzac725]

U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities: Breeds of Dogs Involved, Age Groups and Other Factors Over a 13-Year Period (2005 to 2017)

I assume "pit bull" covers a number of different dog breeds. 5 Types of Pit Bull Dog Breeds

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

No I’m just saying the breed needs to be eventually eliminated if that aggressiveness is hard wired in their genetic makeup. Let’s cut some slack to those who presently own pits but strictly enforce registration and strictly penalize noncompliance. A $50 fine for allowing your overly aggressive and uncontrolled pit to kill another owners dog is unjust

I agree to that if ANY overly aggressive dog killed another dog...

But the question is "IF" that aggression is hardwired or not...

I'm of the belief that are very few "bad dogs", just bad owners... Just as there are very few "bad people", just bad parents... Are there exceptions? Most certainly.

The previous owner of my home had two large dogs that he refused to keep on leash. They terrorized the neighbors who were riding their bikes and other dogs out on walks with their owners.

He even got into a physical altercation with someone at the dog park, resulting in assault charges... He was the poster child for being a "bad owner"...

Lest I repeat myself, the "previous" owner... He no longer lives in TV...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The problem with pits is not that they bite. ALL dogs will bite, given motivation/reason to do so. The problem is the physiology of the pit's bite. Their jaw structure and the power behind their facial musculature. THAT is what makes their bites more of a problem than that of other dogs. It's not their training, it's not bad owners, it's not bad dogs. It's just anatomy/physiology of canines, nothing more or less.

The reason it's newsworthy - is because of the owners of these animals. Not because of the dogs themselves. The dogs are doing what dogs do, in whatever circumstances they are placed in, given whatever training they're given (or lack thereof). An improperly-trained chihuahua will bite more often than an improperly-trained pit bull. Here's why: because no one thinks of a chihuahua as a "dangerous breed" so when they bite, it's often dismissed as "oh chihuahuas are tiny, no harm, here's $50 for the stitches, my bad, woopsie, who's a good widdle doggie, YOU are a good widdle doggie!"

And so they will bite again, and again, because their owners refuse to acknowledge that dogs biting is a bad thing, no matter what breed they are or how cute or small they are.

If a pit bites someone, the DOG is vilified. It's not the dog. It's the owner. Always.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I'm of the belief that are very few "bad dogs", just bad owners... Just as there are very few "bad people", just bad parents... Are there exceptions? Most certainly..

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

If a pit bites someone, the DOG is vilified. It's not the dog. It's the owner. Always.

Wait, What? We agree??? Excuse me while I pass out for a second...

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It's not the dog. It's the owner. Always.

I have been bitten by dogs, but never by an owner.
Some dogs have been bred to be aggressive. The potential for bites increases in those breeds because owners either don't understand that some breeds require more training, maintenance and attention and , or they just aren't able or willing fulfill the dogs need.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by merrymini

My yorkie was attached by a pit. He pulled the dog from my arms,. The resulting trauma cost about $2000 in vet bills. Penalty to the pit owner, $50 for not having the dog licensed. Cops did nothing and could not care less. I ordinarily, do not like to see compulsive action, but pitties are a danger to everyone. The numbers do not lie.

Suggest you hire a lawyer and see if the attorney can help you. Does not matter what the cop did or did not do. It is a civil matter and cops do not get involved if the dog owner did not commit a crime.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I have been bitten by dogs, but never by an owner.
Some dogs have been bred to be aggressive. The potential for bites increases in those breeds because owners either don't understand that some breeds require more training, maintenance and attention and , or they just aren't able or willing fulfill the dogs need.

Dogs that are bred to be aggressive can have that aggressiveness trained out of them. It requires a human willing and able to do the work.

Once again - it is the owner, not the dog. Always.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Dogs that are bred to be aggressive can have that aggressiveness trained out of them. It requires a human willing and able to do the work.

Once again - it is the owner, not the dog. Always.

Just like an aggressive bull can be taught not to charge and a deadly snake can be taught never to strike…. NOT! A pit bull can be trained but can never be fully trusted not to perform their innate behavior.