[tainsley]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

What it really boils down to is that "the Institution" needs MONEY....continuing and perpetual donations....by football-obsessed alumni into athletic budgets....or by parishioners into the collection basket or diocesan campaign fund.

I agree...the institution of College Football...and I don't care what college or university. I hope all college and university presidents, coaches, ADs and staff are put on notice and clean up their programs (as well as the NCAA)!!!!!

[Loveithere]

Originally Posted by PennBF

Yes !!

Maybe

http://lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson326.html

[jblum315]

Joe Paterno is officially dead. RIP.

[2BNTV]

The article I saw was posted in the NY Post at 10:23 AM.

RIP Joe - You were a good man.

[Taltarzac725]

AP columnist: NCAA must gut Penn State's football program with massive penalties | Lubbock Online | Lubbock Avalanche-Journal

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-death-penalty

There were 4 columnists giving their opinions about this in The Villages Daily Sun today. What do you think should happen to the football program at Penn State?

If I were the person with the power to give out some kind of punishment to Penn State, I would make the football program give a hefty percentage of their profits from winning bowl games or whatever to child abuse prevention programs throughout the Northeast for the next 35 years. Not enough of a percentage though to make the players and coaches in the program to lose the motivation to try to win football games.

[graciegirl]

I don't know. It seems wrong to penalize kids who are coming to Penn State and what the joy of college football is meant to be in their future.

This whole thing has turned out to be so much worse than anyone expected if anything could be worse than a grown man being able to hurt little boys who didn't have a solid family to protect them and for other grown men to look the other way for the sake of fame and glory and money and tradition....

[2BNTV]

I totally agree with the article. With that being said, my personal preferences would be:

1. A bowl ban for ten years so it's football program is devalued.
2. Heavy financial penalties imossed by the NCAA.
2. Decrease tuition cost, (due to it is no longer a beacon of integrity).
3. Pay all medical cost plus damages to all victims although they will never be the same again.
4. Take down all statues and references to Joe Paterno.

Joe Pa's failure to follow-up in this incident was a colussus error in judgement that ruined all the good work he did. It's sad that many years of doing good was greatly overshadowed by his willingness to cover this up.

My heart goes out to the victims is my botom line.

[De Lis]

I am not a graduate of Penn State, and maybe I would feel differently if I were, but every time I see that Paterno statue, my stomach churns. How can people view that and not think of those children any more?

[Joaniesmom]

We lived in Happy Valley for many, many years. My husband got two degrees from Penn State. Our daughter was born there. While we were not huge football fans, we did enjoy all the hoopla that went along with it during game day.

First let me say we have our Penn State flag flying at half staff in front of our home to express our shame and sadness for the children who have been harmed. Those children we know of, those I am certain we have yet to hear about and those who will always suffer in silence.

But I don't understand the posters who are so certain that destroying and shaming the entire Penn State football program and the reputation of everyone associated with PSU: the students, faculty, cafeteria workers, librarians, everybody, is the solution. Speaking only for myself, I don't know how we could feel any worse.

Keep in mind that JoPa is dead, Sandusky will hopefully will be in jail for the rest of his pitifull life, the rest of the "Suits" who ran Penn State will soon be arrested and come to their just "rewards."

The Second Mile Club is about defunct, if not already dead. New laws are being put into place within Penn State to more fully prevent this type of moral holocaust from happening again.

What I am wondering is what good will it do to punish incoming student athletes and shaming every student attending Penn State who had nothing to do with this mess.

Why are you being so unkind to innocent people you don't even know?

[eweissenbach]

The players, current coaches, current administration, and fans had NOTHING to do with the situation. I cannot concur that they should be punished for the wrongdoing of Curley, Schultz, Spanier, Paterno, and mostly, Sandusky himself. Sandusky is paying a belated penalty, and Paterno may have suffered the worst penalty of all - hastened death and loss of a previously untarnished and magnificent legacy. Curley, Spanier and Schultz will likely pay a penalty either with a jail sentence, and/or loss of reputation and respect, not to mention already losing significant careers. When people say it is an institutional or systemic problem, I disagree. The institution made no decisions - it was the weak people involved. I say this with neither a fan interest in Penn State, nor any malice.

What should the football program be required to do? First, it is a huge moneymaker - how about letting it continue to make money and require that for the next X number of years they donate a million dollars a year to a fund for the victims, and a million dollars a year to child abuse charities. Also, require them to buy advertising on any broadcast they appear on, to highlight child abuse and how to deal with it.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Joaniesmom

We lived in Happy Valley for many, many years. My husband got two degrees from Penn State. Our daughter was born there. While we were not huge football fans, we did enjoy all the hoopla that went along with it during game day.

First let me say we have our Penn State flag flying at half staff in front of our home to express our shame and sadness for the children who have been harmed. Those children we know of, those I am certain we have yet to hear about and those who will always suffer in silence.

But I don't understand the posters who are so certain that destroying and shaming the entire Penn State football program and the reputation of everyone associated with PSU: the students, faculty, cafeteria workers, librarians, everybody, is the solution. Speaking only for myself, I don't know how we could feel any worse.

Keep in mind that JoPa is dead, Sandusky will hopefully will be in jail for the rest of his pitifull life, the rest of the "Suits" who ran Penn State will soon be arrested and come to their just "rewards."

The Second Mile Club is about defunct, if not already dead. New laws are being put into place within Penn State to more fully prevent this type of moral holocaust from happening again.

What I am wondering is what good will it do to punish incoming student athletes and shaming every student attending Penn State who had nothing to do with this mess.

Why are you being so unkind to innocent people you don't even know?

I do feel for those stuck in the politics of this mess. Still think that the punishment should be some kind of long term community service like approach done by the football program and their backers. Something that will turn a negative into a positive like having Penn State's football program fund child abuse hotlines and information centers in the Pennsylvania and surrounding areas. Have these programs marked with the note that they are partially funded by Penn State.

You just hurt the innocent by killing off the Penn State football program. Unfortunately, that is what usually happens with these kind of politics. The politicians make a stink for a while, the worst of the worst are punished, and then this just happens at some other school later on.

[Count'n the days]

Baylor University was hit by scandal with the basketball program not long ago. A young man lost his life at the hands of another player. Individuals were involved with covering up information to protect themselves because they had violated NCAA rules. Individuals and Baylor were dealt severe penalties - rightly so. It has been a long road back for the men's basketball program and the school, but they are back and stronger than ever. They advanced to the Elite Eight twice in the last few years. The girls basketball team won the National Championship twice recently, including last year breaking a record for number of wins. The football team won an exciting bowl game and their quarterback Robert Griffin III won the Heisman Trophy last year. The students who felt the pain while attending (my son being one), now have something to cheer about.

I LOVE watching college football. As the summer heat is at it's worst I start looking forward to cooler weather and the excitement of the upcoming NCAA football season. It is unfortunate that the NCAA penalties for such crimes will be felt by innocent people. You can't change what's been done in the past, but only hope to do what will deter it from happing in the future and protecting future victims. IMHO I don't think any penalty would be too severe for what's happened. Penn State and the students will survive, but no one should forget what's happened to remind us all to do the right thing in the future.

[l2ridehd]

Punish those that committed the crime as much as possible. That would include removing the statue, fines, jail, community service, and what ever else could be meted out to those who broke the law or conspired in any type cover up.

Do not punish the current students, football players, coaches, or anyone not involved. There are many students there who got there with scholarships and sports talent that otherwise would not get to go to college. Place the blame on the adults that failed, not on the kids trying to get a decent education.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Punish those that committed the crime as much as possible. That would include removing the statue, fines, jail, community service, and what ever else could be meted out to those who broke the law or conspired in any type cover up.

Do not punish the current students, football players, coaches, or anyone not involved. There are many students there who got there with scholarships and sports talent that otherwise would not get to go to college. Place the blame on the adults that failed, not on the kids trying to get a decent education.

I agree 100%. I also must add that if sanctions may be levied it would be unfair to take wins or scholarships away from the school as this did nothing to improve the preformance of the team.
The school must admit that Joe P. was not the saint that they thought he was and his statue should be taken down.

[ilovetv]

It's a culture of corruption, just like the hierarchy that protected the pedophile priests.

Somebody (-ies), behind all those closed doors, wanted it this way. And one of the most influential of those somebodies is not talking, because he died when it started to hit the fan.