Well it really not 100% safe now is it.
My close friend daughter is a dancer for Disney so had to get vax for work…….she was a very healthy young lady and since her first shot she has been to the ER 3 times with heart issues……….so safe you say.
And I don’t care what FDA, CDC and WHO and our President says.
I go by what I know with true cases. I have a lot of people who have had and deal with side effects from vax and have come down with Covid after being fully vax
Can we just stop all the false info

Please enlighten me on your response to my post.

Well it really not 100% safe now is it.

***No, just 99+% safe

I go by what I know with true cases. I have a lot of people who have had and deal with side effects from vax and have come down with Covid after being fully vax

***Let's ignore the tens of thousands in the studies and the hundreds of millions vaccinated and go by "I have a lot of people"

Can we just stop all the false info

***Yes, you can

And I don’t care what FDA, CDC and WHO and our President says.

UPDATE on the third arm sticking out of my belly: it's doing great. I'm eagerly awaiting the third jab so I can get a fourth arm out my back. That way I can turn around really fast and be a human windmill, and power my home.

Or slap someone four times in rapid succession without tiring out a single hand.

I'm fine with either option, not gonna lie.

YAAAY!

Another vaccination thread that will change exactly no one's mind...

I thought the moderators said no more of these threads...

This may very well be true, and thoughtful people hear it--and evaluate it for what it's worth. But is it meant to be a smokescreen to hide the reality of what is taking place in hospitals throughout the country as described by the OP? Is the reality that the vast majority of stricken and dying Covid patients are unvaccinated to be denied or ignored, just because many Covid patients--vaccinated AND unvaccinated--do recover? What a tragedy--and we are far from being finished with Covid , just as Covid is far from being finished with us....

A few friends and a "so-called lot of people" does NOT compare to the RIGOROUS work done by the CDC and the FDA to ensure the GREATEST possible safety before getting ANY vaccine out to the public. Those few "I know people"-type people are statistically like an N of NOTHING. The main important statistic is that 99% of the CV DEATHS are from UNvaccinated people. Many of them have begged from their hospital beds of their friends and family members, "get your **** shots!"

Hey, golfing eagles, MD,,

I gotta hand it to you. That thing you wrote about the buck nekkid v. the full clothed running through the poison ivy is a terrific analogy.

But then there is the imagery. . .:eek:. . .Oh well, anyway, that's some seriously good wordsmithing you just did. Makes your point perfectly.

Thanks.

Boomer


. . .And, hey, Mintzer, stop trying to get this thread shut down. I know it is turning into a lot of the usual, but I want to address my original post from a different angle, and I don't have time right now.

So let it ride. Don't cry, "foul" -- because it is not. And, btw, I like your new picture. That's a great haircut.

Boomer, again

Are they any angles left?

Why does an internet search for Karen Gallardo ONLY turn up this opinion piece submitted to the Los Angeles Times as an editorial?

Also, cancer is not a virus. Good luck finding that vaccine.

#TwoWeeksToFlattenTheCurve

Google "gardasil"

Great post! Alabama has more deaths than births for the 1st time ever - a record brought about by the people like the one in that picture UNDER the graveyard marker. And a sendoff with so much PAIN. But, he/she like so many Alabamians showed "those government stooges" how to have "free spirit" and how to die for that GREAT CAUSE of.........now what was that cause again? Oh yeah, it goes something like - reject empathy for other humans and think about only themselves.......yeah, that free will. But, write out that paper WILL 1st before you go to your anti-vaxxer meetings.

Maybe that US overpopulation situation is SELF-CORRECTING. An old-timey great philosopher once said something like - wars and pestulance will keep the world's population in check!

I wholeheartedly agree with that post. Boomerperson for king of the world! All hail the king!

Why did you single out Alabama?

It happened in multiple states... We have an aging population...

https://carsey.unh.edu/sites/default...?itok=pLRO_cKd

Gardasil doesn't "prevent cancer". It prevents HPV - human papilloma virus. HPV isn't cancer. It's a virus (thus, the V in HPV). HPV is the leading cause of cervical cancer, but doesn't always cause it. In fact, most adult woman have, or have had at some point in their lives, HPV, and most of them haven't ever had cervical cancer. In addition, there are women who have (or had) cervical cancer but didn't (don't) have HPV.

So far the % is low but strangely, everyone I personally know that has contracted COVID has been previously vaccinated including my granddaughter. All had fairly minor cases and recovered nicely. All anecdotal I know but it makes me view the vaccine more as an effective therapeutic.

I still think there has been a lack of a risk/benefit analysis. Our age bracket, vaccine certainly makes sense and the risk from vaccine is less than the risk from COVID.

Younger generations, I'm not so sure.

This Covid surge is like that ad for Jaws 2 with that bumpa, bumpa, bumpa music in the background -- and the guy would say, "Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water."

We boomers and beyond will not be taking the rap for this one.

As I said in the intro I wrote for the Op-Ed piece that started this thread, I have friends who are heartbroken because their adult children refuse to get the vaccine, not to protect themselves and not even to protect their own children by adding a layer of protection for them, and not to protect their own parents. And the parents, our age, are left feeling, "So. What am I? Chopped liver?"

Yes. They try hard to accept what their kids are saying and doing. But this one is beyond just disagreement. This one is skewing family relationships.

At first I thought about what could be the common denominator affecting the boomer-spawn that is making them act this way. But then I came to the conclusion that it's a spectrum -- a range of reasons.

I think the fact that the boomers' offspring were early adapters to screens is a factor.

I remember a study when they were children that said they were far more influenced by their friends than by their parents. Of course, now their friends, or pretend friends, are available 24/7 online.

Or is it because of that everybody gets a trophy routine that made them think they were the center of the universe?

What is it?

Our little family is all vaccinated and as completely mystified as I am by the behavior of some of those around us -- well, not so much around us for now -- we are avoiding them -- and I don't like doing that.

We are living our lives, not huddled in our houses, but it bothers me to make my world smaller. But I do.

I hope this will not turn into a link-fest. Families and friendships are hurting. Any thoughts on generational influences? I know the boomer-offspring are not any smarter than us -- well, except for that thing about not wanting china or silver or crystal. That's pretty smart.

Boomer

But, when the die it’s cause they smoked due to lung issues that cause respiratory failure.

Good that you have a plan. We hope it works for you. I’ll bet you plan a trip to the hospital if things go wrong. This is the situation the health care workers don’t want.

You chose to go rogue. That is ok. Part of that choice should be to give up your priority in the hospitals. Too many of the unvaxed are in ICU. Did they not get Mca in time? Maybe they missed that part of the plan. That is why the vaccine is a big deal.

Personally, I have your plan and the vaccine in my plan. I will gamble with my money, but not so with my life.

He has my vote for King. Love his posts.

You ought to be ashamed!!!

Agreed. The mind changer will be when it hits home.

Second Try: You ought to be ashamed!

My daughter-in-law wouldn't get the vaccine because it wasn't "natural", whatever that means. My son was first in line to get his.

According to the vast majority of studies I’ve read, now I most likely have superior antibodies compared to those who have been vaccinated. My cough is gone and now I’m better protected from variants than you…

Speaking of Alabama. THIS could happen anywhere USA.........

Alabama man dies after being turned away from 43 Covid-filled hospitals | The Independent

Are you asking me or telling me????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes but that will not hold up in court.

I think she was telling ME.

My dear friend Ruthie used the Yiddish word kvetch when people became annoyed over nothing.

Or having the last word. I miss Ruthie so much. She was our next door neighbor and she died of cancer.

My point was only to say that a vaccine against one form of cancer does exist.

My personal belief is that we will have more wins against cancer in all of it's form in the future because very smart scientists have unlocked the human genome and we understand more and more about how our bodies fight disease.

I am from Ohio where I was taught you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

Again, I applaud Boomer's post. It has really placed this in perspective. So needed. Excellent.

But Boomer is a woman. She is a retired teacher from Cincinnati. She is a very smart woman.

She actually quoted my post. She just didn't realize that I simply jumped from "A" (HPV vaccine) to "C" (cervical cancer prevention) without the full explanation. I very much doubt she didn't think I knew what Gardasil was.

I know. But before you pointed it out, so did I. I too said that young teens have been routinely vaccinated against HPV since 2006. It was among other things to stop Cervical cancer. Scroll back.



I am very grateful for your expert advice.

It worked great…….

Glad to hear it, stay healthy.

Unfortunately, on a larger scale (like more than 1 person:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:), that strategy falls somewhere between:

"I'd rather be lucky than good" and
"Momma always said stupid is as stupid does"

fyi

"99%" is on both sides of this. 99.7% of people (without the mRNA shot) when exposed to covid will fully recover. The end result is natural immunity and no mRNA. People can choose which "99%" side they wish to be on. As a medical professional, your bias is obvious. If you're holding a hammer (ie prescription pad or scalpel), everything starts to look like a nail. Sometimes another tool is more appropriate as other doctors have demonstrated first hand ... HCQ with zinc works extremely well if started early instead of the medical industry's only treatment offer of "go home and isolate yourself ... allow the virus to run its course ... and come back via an ambulance when you are sicker". Not me. HCQ wiped this virus from me in just a few days. No side effects, no fear of this thing and no mRNA shot.

So, please continue to "inform" me----WHO are these "doctors"---give me names. If you list the chiefs of medicine at Mass General, Johns Hopkins and Brigham and Women's, I'm all ears. If you list some chiropractor, holistician, or nutritionist on some wacko web site, well,,,,,,,,,

Actually no, you're not. I was exposed to COVID-19 for the better part of a year, on a regular basis. I got the vaccine only after people my age were authorized to get one, in April.

I was already immune. I got the vaccine anyway "just to make sure." I've been better protected than you all along. But I might have passed it to you at any time. I wouldn't know, because I haven't experienced any symptoms and didn't care enough to get tested. I masked, but masks aren't foolproof. I social distanced, but I might have sneezed once or twice in front of other people.

I did everything I felt was the right thing to do, and I stayed healthy throughout. If I got you sick because you chose not to do the right thing, well - woops.

Your daughter is correct and it’s heartening to see some folks looking at research rather than greedy talking heads !! Fear fear fear - no more

Sorry but I have to call BS on that.

The Villages has YOUR 86% or more vaccination rate. Still don't know why you hate your own country so much that you consistently cut it down and brag about how great all the other countries that you have never lived in is. Ever heard of the saying that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. I don't see such a great migration of Americans moving to those "other" countries that you incessantly brag about.
Some folks on here serve nothing more than to prove they are UN-convincing know it alls.