[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

One question to be asked, "is the US STILL the greatest country?" It was at least in the top ten after WWW2. But today, when you look at comparative lists of countries, you find that we are # 1 in gun violence and deaths.......that's not too wonderful. We are about 30th in the factor called ......upward mobility - the UK is about 10th. And we are #1 in wealth disparity. Please check the other factors on the country comparisons list. You might not go away thinking "greatest country". I really WISH that it was!
..........think about how factors like extreme wealth disparity intensify the propensity for some marginal male youth to see GUNS and violence as an easy and thrilling way to improve their life. They might join forces in a gang or they could go crazy and individually just kill adults and children as punishment for THEIR dead-end lives.
.........Many young males (in every country, not just the US) feel like they are swimming upstream in an environment that HATES them and one where they can NEVER succeed. In the US they have the greatest access to semi-auto weapons of war than any other country so we have the greatest amount of mass murders.

I agree with your assessment. My "greatest country in the world" was sarcasm, no doubt lost of those that think it is.

The list of things we have fallen out of first place in is much longer than your list. But, this thread is about the one there is no second place - we are first in having our children murdered while learning to read.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Kids today are desensitized with all the violence in the movies, and on video games. It's no wonder they are all messed up and prone to violence. If you don't believe me, watch your grand kids video games...

Once again, there is a wide world out there, with 94% of the worlds population and many of those (most?) play violent video games and watch all the same movies. NO other country murders its children regularly while they are trying to learn to read.

And I still play my grandkids video games and usually beat them. Did you grow up with the Three Stooges? Do you hit you friends in the head with a Hamer, poke them in the eyes with your fingers? Did you watch cowboy shows? Do kill Indians when you see them coming? On and on. We grew up in a very violent era. Cartoons glorified murder, dropping safes on peoples heads was "funny".

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by chuckpedrey

The Judge is on His throne and we will all stand before Him one day. Things would be a whole lot different if the Holy Bible were once again used as a text book in our school rooms.

If they can get enough Bibles into the schools, maybe the kids could shelter behind a pile of them when the gunman calls.
Bibles and prayers haven't saved a kid yet!

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

If they can get enough Bibles into the schools, maybe the kids could shelter behind a pile of them when the gunman calls.
Bibles and prayers haven't saved a kid yet!

Agree.

I grew up in a bible thumping Southern Baptist home. I even preached at our church one summer while my brother, the then interim pastor was out of town. And look at the mess I turned into... didn't stick with me - LOL!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by chuckpedrey

The Judge is on His throne and we will all stand before Him one day. Things would be a whole lot different if the Holy Bible were once again used as a text book in our school rooms.

Religiousity is not going to solve the problems in this situation. The US long ago agreed to separate church and state. Let's retain that because it worked.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Religiousity is not going to solve the problems in this situation. The US long ago agreed to separate church and state. Let's retain that because it worked.

I think the appropriate meme in this case is, if someone has a hammer, everything looks like a nail. (not you, the post you are replying to)

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by waterflower

defund the C I A
Investigate the psychotropic drugs the mass shooters are taking.

I fail to see coherence here. Possibly humor? Like bad humor? Like a bad poetry Sat night live skit?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

That's your opinion. The facts show that the less guns, the less gun-related deaths.

Agreed.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by PugMom

no, but that's a whole other can of worms. the cruelty involved in these sanitariums were inhumane, certainly, but the solution to simply release them is insane. if this is how things are in the US today, the ONLY thing that will stop this is security. no unauthorized personnel allowed with verification. we had to do it @ my kid's high school, was no big thing. you ring a bell, the camera sees who you are, & office staff buzz you in. not perfect, but it was a start

Mental institutes were closed in about the early eighties in order to keep property and other taxes low for the benefit of rich taxpayers. Just threw them out on the street. What could POSSIBLY go wrong???????

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Whose bible do you think we should use for indoctrinating our children? And lets not talk about the awesome success of Theocracies in solving violence - does the inquisition, or the Crusades bring anything to mind? Mass murdering and torture.

If you want to practice religious beliefs, I am 100% in favor of that If you want to force me and my children to practice YOUR religious beliefs - how is that freedom of speech? How is that freedom of Religion?

The problem is MAN MADE, and the solution will be MAN MADE.

Someone said that religion has caused most of the wars in the world.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by PugMom

an added thought: what about the case of sandy hook? the kid was obvious unbalanced just by looking @ him, but his mother bought them for him, as gifts, yet! how do we begin to control THAT? she even took him target shooting!

If she could have ONLY legally purchased a bolt action or single-shot rifle he could have killed fewer children before he was overpowered!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

Texas lawmen, Big hats, Big boots, Big swagger , Big nothing, they had to wait till they had an army , when as soon as the first law men on the grounds should have been banging at that door not waiting for help

Maybe all of today's Texans have lost the spirit of "Remember the Alamo".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

"Those who give up a little freedom for a little security shall lose both--and deserve neither". (Benjamin Franklin--allegedly)

i guess that I am confused. Have Australia and New Zealand been taken over by Russia or China? Why wasn't I informed of this?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Maybe all of today's Texans have lost the spirit of "Remember the Alamo".

Two cannons played a big role in the victory at San Jacinto. Battle of San Jacinto - Wikipedia

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[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Someone said that religion has caused most of the wars in the world.

I have heard that, and the other all the wars were about money. I don't know. Personally I am on the side of powerful people getting less powerful people to go murder other people. I think it is sometimes for "god" and sometimes the other "god" - money/power.

I think George Carlin said something about do you believe in my god - no? Bang you are dead as the basis for most wars.