[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

You sir are a dreamer. How did outlawing prostitution work? How did outlawing drugs work? How did Prohibition work 100 years ago. Criminals are criminals and pay no attention to laws or bans. They will do what they do with impunity knowing no law abiding is armed to prevent it. Not to mention gov------nt. There are loopholes that could be closed and monitoring of the unwell mentally ill, but a ban deprived the wrong people and removes too many deterrents.

I never wrote anything like you are implying.

I AM suggesting they do something about stopping the selling of weapons which were designed at their inception for use in warfare. There is no getting the hornets back in the nest after you have destroyed it.

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[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Unless you are an active duty soldier, you should be deprived from owning an AK rifle. Those weapons are for obliterating an enemy in war. Pretty sure we can live without them on our US streets. “Well regulated militia “ not free for all of all weapons by anybody who wants one.

Do you even know what an AK Rifle is? These type of weapons sold to the law abiding public are not fully automatic weapons as are the military versions. They are no more or less capable to obliterate than a ordinary semiautomatic hunting rifle. Maybe know the facts about what you are talking about before taking to the key board

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

Do you even know what an AK Rifle is? These type of weapons sold to the law abiding public are not fully automatic weapons as are the military versions. They are no more or less capable to obliterate than a ordinary semiautomatic hunting rifle. Maybe know the facts about what you are talking about before taking to the key board

Really? Tell that to parents of the kids killed at Parkland. They did see the photos of the damage this weapon caused. Parkland high school shooting - Wikipedia

AR-15 style rifle - Wikipedia

Smith & Wesson M&P15 - Wikipedia

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

How about watching the news. Prohibit Assault Weapons | Everytown | Everytown

What you describe as an assault weapon are not all that high powered. Big game hunting rifles are high powered. They are only capable of being fired as fast as a person can pull the trigger. They are not fully automatic weapons like the military versions. Many types of hand gun ammunition will do much greater damage than an assault weapon round. The only correct thing in your post is they do have larger magazines than most other rifle type guns but many handguns are capable of larger capacities. When you post use the facts not your imagination, know your subject and you will appear less silly.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

What you describe as an assault weapon are not all that high powered. Big game hunting rifles are high powered. They are only capable of being fired as fast as a person can pull the trigger. They are not fully automatic weapons like the military versions. Many types of hand gun ammunition will do much greater damage than an assault weapon round. The only correct thing in your post is they do have larger magazines than most other rifle type guns but many handguns are capable of larger capacities. When you post use the facts not your imagination, know your subject and you will appear less silly.

It is the number of rounds coming out of the barrel. Again. Tell what you are selling to the parents of the Parkland kids.

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That is because of the worship of guns in this country and the idiotic idea that collecting them will serve as some kind of check on government. They are much better trained and armed than any armchair wanna be warriors.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

You make a lot of assertions with little evidence for them.

No I think he was pretty much on the money

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

No I think he was pretty much on the money

Hardly.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Lots of similarities - Hitler attacked his foil, the Jewish people. In Florida they attack Mickey Mouse. And school teachers and school children. Notice.........just some available group that is relatively weak.

Why do you and many others try to diminish the evil brutality of the Nazi government? It was the most brutal, inhuman and evil event in world history. To compare it to the trivial political spats today is an insult to those who died in the Holocaust. Do some reading of those events by the survivors, watch the many documentaries about this terrible time in history. Spend the money and travel to Europe and see first hand the few remaining death camps.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Really? Tell that to parents of the kids killed at Parkland. They did see the photos of the damage this weapon caused. Parkland high school shooting - Wikipedia

AR-15 style rifle - Wikipedia

Smith & Wesson M&P15 - Wikipedia

Doesn't change the fact that they don't do any more or less damage than any other semi automatic weapon. Actually less than a bigger caliber rifle, or a handgun using some form of hollow point bullet meant to inflict maximum damage. So pointing your finger at what you call an assault weapon based on others opinions and not on facts is irresponsible.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

Doesn't change the fact that they don't do any more or less damage than any other semi automatic weapon. Actually less than a bigger caliber rifle, or a handgun using some form of hollow point bullet meant to inflict maximum damage. So pointing your finger at what you call an assault weapon based on others opinions and not on facts is irresponsible.

Ridiculous response. The facts in what weapons were used in the shootings of 2023 show different.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Really? Tell that to parents of the kids killed at Parkland. They did see the photos of the damage this weapon caused. Parkland high school shooting - Wikipedia

AR-15 style rifle - Wikipedia

Smith & Wesson M&P15 - Wikipedia

I am not diminishing the horrors of mass shootings only the non factual postings about what is and is not an assault rifle. The versions sold to the public are not the military versions, and no more dangerous than other firearms. A deranged person will simply find another avenue for his sick activity.
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[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

I am not diminishing the horrors of mass shootings only the non factual postings about what is and is not an assault rifle. The versions sold to the public are not the military versions, and no more dangerous than other firearms. A deranged person will simply find another avenue for his sick activity.
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What does that have to do with anything? And deranged people can now just pick up an assault rifle. Other kinds of weapons that can cause mass casualties are hard to get, use, and transport. Assault rifles are not.

[Number 10 GI]

I think one of the reasons the AR15 is used so often is because the media and anti-gun zealots have portrayed it as the ultimate, most death dealing weapon in the history of firearms. In the close quarters of school rooms, a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 00 Buck Shot will wreak far more destruction. Do you remember this mass shooting?

The Washington Navy Yard shooting occurred on September 16, 2013, when 34-year-old Aaron Alexis fatally shot 12 people and injured three others in a mass shooting at the headquarters of the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) inside the Washington Navy Yard in southeast Washington, D.C. The attack took place in the Navy Yard's Building 197; it began around 8:16 a.m. EDT and ended when police killed Alexis around 9:25 a.m. It is the deadliest mass shooting in Washington, D.C. history, as well as the second deadliest mass murder on a U.S. military base, behind the 2009 Fort Hood shooting.

You can read the whole story here: Washington Navy Yard shooting - Wikipedia

The murderer used a 12 gauge shotgun.

Yes, the AR15 is an efficient killing implement, but so are all other centerfire cartridge rifles. Yes, the AR15 is a weapon of war, but nearly every rifle ever made has been used as a weapon of war.
I'm going to keep harping on the fact that we have a violence problem in this country. Why is this not the primary topic of concern in this country? Too many people don't want to talk about it because it will require complicated, expensive and possibly controversial actions to fix the problem. It's much easier to blame an inanimate object for the weak minded to embrace as the cure-all, taking the pressure off gutless politicians.

[Taltarzac725]

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[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

I think one of the reasons the AR15 is used so often is because the media and anti-gun zealots have portrayed it as the ultimate, most death dealing weapon in the history of firearms. In the close quarters of school rooms, a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 00 Buck Shot will wreak far more destruction. Do you remember this mass shooting?

The Washington Navy Yard shooting occurred on September 16, 2013, when 34-year-old Aaron Alexis fatally shot 12 people and injured three others in a mass shooting at the headquarters of the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) inside the Washington Navy Yard in southeast Washington, D.C. The attack took place in the Navy Yard's Building 197; it began around 8:16 a.m. EDT and ended when police killed Alexis around 9:25 a.m. It is the deadliest mass shooting in Washington, D.C. history, as well as the second deadliest mass murder on a U.S. military base, behind the 2009 Fort Hood shooting.

You can read the whole story here: Washington Navy Yard shooting - Wikipedia

The murderer used a 12 gauge shotgun.

Yes, the AR15 is an efficient killing implement, but so are all other centerfire cartridge rifles. Yes, the AR15 is a weapon of war, but nearly every rifle ever made has been used as a weapon of war.
I'm going to keep harping on the fact that we have a violence problem in this country. Why is this not the primary topic of concern in this country? Too many people don't want to talk about it because it will require complicated, expensive and possibly controversial actions to fix the problem. It's much easier to blame an inanimate object for the weak minded to embrace as the cure-all, taking the pressure off gutless politicians.

Shotguns make excellent home defense weapons.

We are not blaming guns. We ARE blaming those that sell , market and glamorize weapons primarily designed for use on battlefields.