[bmit16]

2 things, both coroners autopsy's agree as of today that he died by strangulation which caused coronary failure. The ME,s report last week was a preliminary report that just showed the obvious. This happens a lot. But it was stated last night on Fox that both agree on cause of death.

2nd about his past convictions. Please do not assume that someone is an angel just because they have not been caught. On the other hand, do not assume they have not changed after serving time for a violent crime. Fact is, we just don't know what he has really been doing since his release. Unless you are close to him, and doubt anyone here is.

The bottom line is, the police did something really stupid and negligent and the were wrong and will and should answer to it in court.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by 72lions

What? You blindly accept autopsies performed that exonerate the police?

Exactly.

Especially from a white county ME, who works with the police and would have plenty of incentive to try and make us all believe...we didn't really see what we saw.

Just imagine if the video didn't exist.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

By compression on the neck as the video shows.

George Floyd'''s family releases independent autopsy showing death caused by asphyxia from sustained pressure | Fox News

I accept the judgment that he was essentially kept from breathing by pressure on his back and neck. That was the cause of death. That autopsy, though, didn’t mention that he was high on Fentanyl and had used meth in the previous couple days. This may help explain why he wasn’t entirely rational when he was being arrested. That doesn’t excuse his treatment at all, but it should not be forgotten.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by John41

How quick are some politicians to throw police under the bus when politically expedient. Considering Mr. Floyd’s violent criminal past of armed robbery and drug dealing I am inclined to give police officers the benefit of the doubt unless shown otherwise after an investigation. The restraint technique of kneeling on a suspects is permitted by law if not excessive. More facts will emerge to reach a final and just judgement.

Why do you spread untruths and fail to mention that the policeman who murdered Floyd had 18 complaints against him including some for the use of deadly force? Your post is a disgrace and throws fuel on the fire when we need healing, not hurt.

[regas56]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And once again, the attempts to try and justify the death of an unarmed black man AFTER the fact...starts.

Yep and those who say Oh my he had a record well maybe the cops didn't murder him as if it was no big loss.. THOSE people are the ones who are responsible for most of the madness IMO.. Even the worst of the worst convicted to death get their day in court..

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

Why do you spread untruths and fail to mention that the policeman who murdered Floyd had 18 complaints against him including some for the use of deadly force? Your post is a disgrace and throws fuel on the fire when we need healing, not hurt.

If only everyone felt the same way, instead of the raging narcissism of...."what will make me look the best?"

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

So Floyd was an ex-con. Aggravated robbery is a BIG DEAL FELONY! I did not know that and had actually heard that he was a "gentle giant" and so on. All I can say is WOW! That speaks loud and clear about his actual character!

He was originally be arrested for trying to buy cigarettes with a counterfeit $20 bill.

Some reports are saying that he gave the police a very bad time before the video started.

[notinkansas]

Originally Posted by John41

How quick are some politicians to throw police under the bus when politically expedient. Considering Mr. Floyd’s violent criminal past of armed robbery and drug dealing I am inclined to give police officers the benefit of the doubt unless shown otherwise after an investigation. The restraint technique of kneeling on a suspects is permitted by law if not excessive. More facts will emerge to reach a final and just judgement.

Please read an article from Christianity Today dated May 28, titled "George Floyd Left a Gospel Legacy in Houston". He had been doing good work in the past several years and it is unfortunate that you and others want to focus on the mistakes of his past. People change. He did not deserve this.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

He was originally be arrested for trying to buy cigarettes with a counterfeit $20 bill.

Some reports are saying that he gave the police a very bad time before the video started.

"Some reports" are saying that the cop was a racist...even in elementary school.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

Why do you spread untruths and fail to mention that the policeman who murdered Floyd had 18 complaints against him including some for the use of deadly force? Your post is a disgrace and throws fuel on the fire when we need healing, not hurt.

I've heard the officer's record of complaints mentioned many more times than I've heard the background of George Floyd or the fact that he was being arrested for committing a crime.

According to some, he was simply walking down the street minding his own business and the police just attacked and killed him. That is what is throwing fuel on the fire.

None of us have heard all of the evidence. We don't know what happened prior to the video. I admit that it does look bad for this officer, but I'll reserve judgement until I know all of the facts.

And that right there is the crux of this current problem. People are coming to conclusions before all fo the facts are known and that has what has added fuel to the fire.

[airstreamingypsy]

I am absolutely stunned reading the comments here, these is no defense of what that POS cop did to Mr. Floyd, none whatsoever. We watched him calmly put his knee on a handcuffed man's neck and crush his windpipe for over 8 minutes, why he repeatedly said, "I can't breathe" If that's okay with anyone, it's because you are a sociopath. Why does The Villages attract so many racists? Do you have full page ads in White Nationalist magazine or something?

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by notinkansas

Please read an article from Christianity Today dated May 28, titled "George Floyd Left a Gospel Legacy in Houston". He had been doing good work in the past several years and it is unfortunate that you and others want to focus on the mistakes of his past. People change. He did not deserve this.

Looks like the ME did find traces of fentanyl and meth in his blood and that cardiac arrest caused his death according to an article in Newsweek. Here is the link which works for me even though it appears to block access. You have been blocked

and the Washington Times. George Floyd death a homicide, had drugs in his system, medical examiner says - Washington Times

[aallbrand]

this man was murdered by police caught on camera end of story he may of been a thug but that dose not give police permission to murder. Lets say it was your son who had a checkered past would you not be outraged if he was murdered ?

[regas56]

Originally Posted by dplars

The Official autopsy show he died of heart

Nope.. Minneapolis Medical Examiner lists Floyd's death as a Homicide, that his heart stopped AS police restrained him and compressed his neck. They added he had hypertension and heart disease along with recent fentanyl and methamphetamine use..I've lost 2 young employee's in 2 years from drugs, both did some jail time and yet I would have trusted both with my wallet or my kids more than most I know, they were good kids just troubled.. I had hypertension and heart disease in my 40's and 50's and triple bypass last year at 63, never smoke, drank (much) or did drugs in my life..Fact...he was dead when they put him on the stretcher Paramedics tried reviving him with shock all the way to the hospital where he was pronounced, Freddie Lloyd died that day in the street like a dog because a cop went WAY to far. Who knows maybe he would have died from drugs in a week or a month, or maybe he would have turned it around but that day it was all decided for him by someone else, a stranger who also had some serious violence issues himself in the past and maybe even shouldn't have even been a cop himself and that was not right..

[Wildwilly]

Sounds like you're happy to hear that