[jammendolia]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The "solid 2-parent family" is a really stupid insertion. There are 2-parent families with unwanted kids in them. There are 2-parent families where one of the parents abuses their spouse. Others where one parent abuses the kid(s). There are 2-parent families that have no love within the home. There are 2-parent families where the parents are criminals. There are 2-parent families...etc. etc. etc.

Single parents have it harder - in general. But when you get down to specifics, you'll find there are kids who are raised with just one parent who grow up to be amazing adults, and there are kids who are raised with two parents who grow up to be monsters.

Just take that out of the equation. It is a disservice to single parents, and a disservice to kids of malfunctioning two-parent households.

two orange blossom baby:
it has been well documented that being raised in a married couple household led the poverty rate for black children to go down 73% compared to mother only households and 67% compared to father only households and as evidence of the power of family structure to descend race, 31% of white children raised in mother only household live in poverty versus just 12% of black children living with the married parents this is a stunning realization.
- National center for education statistics (NCES)
please do some research before you start quoting statistics.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Return the tax code to the % percentages used in the 1950s. Eliminate charter schools and return the money and resources to public education. Require ALL new real estate developments to provide affordable homes in the proportion to the ethnicity of the area, which would allow schools to NOT need busing and meld the races together socially and by DNA, hopefully in the future. Have MORE IRS auditors to prevent tax cheating. Reduce Supreme Court terms to 6 years, not lifetime. Cross-train ALL police officers approaching retirement within 5 or 10 years into the Post Office or Peace Corps. Keep Police in rookie academies for 3 years like Denmark to properly evaluate the and eliminate the power/aggresive, violence prone individuals. I could go on and on etc.

Tax code of yesteryear is not likely going to help. Charter schools are great. My grandchildren did very well in them. Forcing someone to build for a certain segment of the population is not FREE ENTERPRISE, it's gov control and that leads to .......... If the police officer needed cross training before retirement, he/she would seek it. Many have second jobs to pay the bills because of the low pay, so they are prepared. Unlike some folks in this country, the police do NOT need personal life choice supervision. They are adults. Explain to me WHY a community in a free country would be forced to have residential quotas? Tax cheating has nothing to do with this subject. Term limits for Supreme Court judges I can agree with, but that is for another subject. Other countries, especially tiny countries find practices that work for them. They also have different laws and different cultures of their own. We do not need to copy anyone else when we have the best in the world; always improving. I do not know where you will find the funding to provide three years of police training.

The only problem we have in law enforcement is how unions protect the few bad cops in this country. VERY FEW. And this is NOT a race thing. I sincerely believe there is a higher percentage of bag politicians than bad COPs. And the people choose the politicians with their votes.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by LoisR

Try this for size: "Treat all people the way you expect you be treated."

Exactly!

And THIS...says it all.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

So stay married...regardless?...

Did you see the word “statistically”?

Practice what you preach.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by silverh

More folks should watch you-tube video's of Shelby Steele and Candace Owens. Explains quite a bit about this unrest in history and what should be done.

While those with "other" interests are oft criticized on here, we find solace in well known political activists. Not sure these are biased folks. They sure will tell you what you want to hear, if that is what you want.

[SacDQ]

You might want to go back to the President Johnson administration to better understand the single parent family structure effecting much of our poor population regardless of color. The welfare system was restructured to allow for larger monthly payments based on a singly parent structure and the number of dependents. This well meaning idea created the mess were in today across the country in rural and intercity locations.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Tax code of yesteryear is not likely going to help. Charter schools are great. My grandchildren did very well in them. Forcing someone to build for a certain segment of the population is not FREE ENTERPRISE, it's gov control and that leads to .......... If the police officer needed cross training before retirement, he/she would seek it. Many have second jobs to pay the bills because of the low pay, so they are prepared. Unlike some folks in this country, the police do NOT need personal life choice supervision. They are adults. Explain to me WHY a community in a free country would be forced to have residential quotas? Tax cheating has nothing to do with this subject. Term limits for Supreme Court judges I can agree with, but that is for another subject. Other countries, especially tiny countries find practices that work for them. They also have different laws and different cultures of their own. We do not need to copy anyone else when we have the best in the world; always improving. I do not know where you will find the funding to provide three years of police training.

The only problem we have in law enforcement is how unions protect the few bad cops in this country. VERY FEW. And this is NOT a race thing. I sincerely believe there is a higher percentage of bag politicians than bad COPs. And the people choose the politicians with their votes.

I agreed with 1point (out of about 5)....The Police Unions are to heavily invested in protection of bad Police behavior at all costs. Solving that would be a good thread. The statement MY grandson did well at a charter schooland turned out wonderfully......is heavy on the MY and is an N of 1 young man and an N of 1 Charter school. I was talking "big picture". Public schools need help... NOT money and people running away to gated communities and picture-book schools. Of course, with those resources, those schools SHOULD be good. Need a long term study to see if better than gifted ed in public schools. 3 years of rookie police training would be paid by making the tax code fair as it was in the 1950s. Note: there was a REAL middle class from 1950 to 1975. That went away, to a large degree, by flattening the tax system. The statement that the US is the best at everything is very ethnocentric. Check the world list of countries. WE were best after WW2, NOT today. Today we are about 20th in UPWARD MOBILITY and 30th in many other gauges of QUALITY OF LIFE. Check it out, dare to do that! The US has turned its back on its own principles and the world judges and is laughing at us. Why would government have residential quotas? Because there is a problem. The US is burning! We need solutions, that was the point of the thread. I offered solutions. The government installed speedbumps to solve a problem. And speed limits. And the FDA. The government is the referee for solutions to help people. Obviously, people need help with racial justice.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by SacDQ

You might want to go back to the President Johnson administration to better understand the single parent family structure effecting much of our poor population regardless of color. The welfare system was restructured to allow for larger monthly payments based on a singly parent structure and the number of dependents. This well meaning idea created the mess were in today across the country in rural and intercity locations.

Agreed, true that.

[psgolf@comcast.net]

missing the point !!!!!!

[PennBF]

I am happy that I don't have to retract the contents of my original submission. In all the responses there was not one that listed, to the best of the writers knowledge the multiple issues surrounding the Minority and corresponding recommendations for solutions. There were some consistent observations as in the case of parenting, some that decided to attack the assertions, e.g. thought the term "label" was misused? this one lost me and one suggested the original note somehow was "another white person pointing out how a black person should be? Again, for the life of me I can't understand how my note could ever be assumed to mean any of that?? I do appreciate the majority of the comments were valid observations
but unfortunately not followed up with meaningful solution and ideas. To say it is a complicated subject is an understatement. Some issues to be addressed and suggested solutions to come forward are (1) Restoring the dignity, (2) Restoring the self worth (3) Bringing action plans to the Urban Housing project, (4) Correcting any inequities in the various level of Education (k-12 and Higher Education (5) Developing respect for the rules of law (6) Providing meaningful opportunities for work for the citizens who are not employed (7) Programs which do not allow or permit the police to be the targets of certain minority groups. (8)ensuring there are rewards and consequences.(9) Fill in the blanks in addition to these!! These are some of the reasons this is not a one solution fits all and why it is a very complicated issue which no one has picked up the flag and run with it. I am use to the slings and arrows fired at this list, etc. and am use to them I just hope that out of them comes a leader not afraid to take them on.

[mjpuleo]

for one thing, i wish people would stop criticizing our policemen. mind you, i have no police officers in my family so that's not the reason i say this. it is society that is a mess and too many police officers have met their fate because they are not allowed to shoot first when in danger with someone else with a gun and this is what it's all about. you have some "animals" out there that are uncontrollable when confronted by a police officer. again, Floyd's death was wrong, but that officer and the others are being punished for it, so what else do they want? how about Capt. Dolan who was killed by rioters for trying to stop looters--how come his name is not splattered all over the place and no one is protesting about that? i am sick and tired of hearing how police enforcement needs a change. if anything, our law enforcement needs more protection from the "animals" on the streets and the protesters that defend them!

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I agreed with 1point (out of about 5)....The Police Unions are to heavily invested in protection of bad Police behavior at all costs. Solving that would be a good thread. The statement MY grandson did well at a charter schooland turned out wonderfully......is heavy on the MY and is an N of 1 young man and an N of 1 Charter school. I was talking "big picture". Public schools need help... NOT money and people running away to gated communities and picture-book schools. Of course, with those resources, those schools SHOULD be good. Need a long term study to see if better than gifted ed in public schools. 3 years of rookie police training would be paid by making the tax code fair as it was in the 1950s. Note: there was a REAL middle class from 1950 to 1975. That went away, to a large degree, by flattening the tax system. The statement that the US is the best at everything is very ethnocentric. Check the world list of countries. WE were best after WW2, NOT today. Today we are about 20th in UPWARD MOBILITY and 30th in many other gauges of QUALITY OF LIFE. Check it out, dare to do that! The US has turned its back on its own principles and the world judges and is laughing at us. Why would government have residential quotas? Because there is a problem. The US is burning! We need solutions, that was the point of the thread. I offered solutions. The government installed speedbumps to solve a problem. And speed limits. And the FDA. The government is the referee for solutions to help people. Obviously, people need help with racial justice.

We don't NEED any more gov. especially more gov control. Sorry, but I do not NEED someone telling me where or where I cannot live, or who my neighbors must be. I see nothing wrong with gated communities, if one wishes to live in them.
"Racial Justice?" Is that different than any other JUSTICE? Why does Justice have to be segregated to race, gender, religion or sexual preference? Why can't one law fit all? Do some have special needs? I am an adult and do not need MORE gov control. The reason the economy did well in the last couple years was because of LESS gov control; less regulations.
The Constitution is color blind and gender blind, therefore if we are TRULY living and moderated by it, then there is NO racial justice, just plain old JUSTICE for all American citizens.

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by silverh

More folks should watch you-tube video's of Shelby Steele and Candace Owens. Explains quite a bit about this unrest in history and what should be done.

I've said the same thing many times and even had a link. The intelligent people that want to get unbiased and informative information already know about Shelby Steele. The others do not want to know anything of Shelby Steele. It might interfere with their bias. If folks really want to educate themselves they should research Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi the founders of Black Lives Matter. When I say research I don't mean simply read the headlines that support your narrative. Do real research. I've found that the organizers of many activist type organizations, both left and right, advertise one thing yet have a more radical and, sometimes, violent agenda.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by J1ceasar

a majority of single parents with children or however white on social welfare

That stands to reason seeing as how the white population is far larger than the minority populations. That is an intentionally misleading statement, the percentage of each group on social welfare is the meaningful fact.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

We don't NEED any more gov. especially more gov control. Sorry, but I do not NEED someone telling me where or where I cannot live, or who my neighbors must be. I see nothing wrong with gated communities, if one wishes to live in them.
"Racial Justice?" Is that different than any other JUSTICE? Why does Justice have to be segregated to race, gender, religion or sexual preference? Why can't one law fit all? Do some have special needs? I am an adult and do not need MORE gov control. The reason the economy did well in the last couple years was because of LESS gov control; less regulations.
The Constitution is color blind and gender blind, therefore if we are TRULY living and moderated by it, then there is NO racial justice, just plain old JUSTICE for all American citizens.

And did anyone look up the point about the US being low in rankings for "quality of Life" or am I preaching to the wind? Are we not men?----from the movie" The Island of Dr. Moreau"