[Number 10 GI]

I didn't read anywhere in his post that advocated, inferred or implied prohibiting peaceful protests. He is angry with the thugs and left wing anarchists that saw this as an opportunity to riot, steal and destroy public and private property. If it was your property that was destroyed you wouldn't think it was an insignificant thing. What I find even more disgusting are the people that come up with idiotic justifications for the violence.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

And what is your point? That everyone naturally has such stuff in their blood stream.

She made mention of that by simply stating what was was found in the autopsy.

"in addition to fentanyl and methamphetamine, the toxicology report from the autopsy showed that Floyd also had cannabinoids in his system when he died."

No assumptions or lies made.

Most of us will make our own assumptions by hearing the facts. Yes, he was murdered. Yes, the murderer has been charged with second degree murder.

[GoFarm]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

You've got to be kidding. Candice Owens is the black Ann Coulter - a real hater. She has defended the white woman who called the police on a black man who asked her to leash her dog while bird watching. She has publicly defended Hitler. She is way, way to the right of mainstream America which endears her to many conservative Republicans and has landed her on Fox News, with her outrageous comments - for her its about the fame, attention, and money. Accuracy and truth telling - not.

Please back up your accusations.

[GoFarm]

Originally Posted by drgoofy

Being high/intoxicated or passing counterfeit $ doesn't carry a death sentence...at least last time I checked. Even if so, it would need to be arrived at via a judge and jury...not some renegade cops.

You missed her point.

[GoFarm]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Nice, continue to try to perpetuate a lie and have an equally uninformed poster (Nailed it - CNM) agree. Here is a clip of congressman Ted Lieu trying to make that same assertion and Candace’s reply. Rep. Ted Lieu plays recording of Candace Owens statement on Adolf Hitler (C-SPAN) - YouTube

Thank you for posting the clip of Candace Owens' comments which puts into context the issue of her mentioning Hitler and completely refutes the disparaging and false assertion that she was defending Hitler.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by GoFarm

Thank you for posting the clip of Candace Owens' comments which puts into context the issue of her mentioning Hitler and completely refutes the disparaging and false assertion that she was defending Hitler.

She also put Nadler in his place. The look on his and Lieu's faces.......PRICELESS!
Steve

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown

And that is just what is wrong with the post baby boomer generations.

When reading an article, or listening to a speaker, once they sense "anything" that doesn't jive with their opinions then they reject the entire hypothesis.

That's termed "narrow-mindedness".

I'm not a "post baby boomer," first of all. I'm a babyboomer. Second, I didn't "sense" anything. I fact-checked. I heard her make statements I hadn't read about or heard from the actual news media - not op-ed, but news. The networks, AP, Reuter's, BBC, etc. That was the first thing that I heard her say that I hadn't heard before. So I fact-checked it. I found the articles that made these claims, and fact-checked those claims further. I searched the JAMA and healthnet, and the government's health and science websites, to learn about "what dosage of these substances can cause mental impairment."

Did you do ANY of that, or did you just believe every word because it fit your narrative? Because - THAT would be "narrow-mindedness."

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

And what is your point? That everyone naturally has such stuff in their blood stream.

She made mention of that by simply stating what was was found in the autopsy.

"in addition to fentanyl and methamphetamine, the toxicology report from the autopsy showed that Floyd also had cannabinoids in his system when he died."

No assumptions or lies made.

Most of us will make our own assumptions by hearing the facts. Yes, he was murdered. Yes, the murderer has been charged with second degree murder.

No, she said - "he was high." Her words. The autopsy report doesn't say that. She says it. And the amount of drugs in his bloodstream indicates that he was likely NOT "high" at the time of his murder. He might've dosed up several hours earlier and it took that long to wear off, but for his height, weight, body type - that amount of drugs in his system would've been similar to the average person taking a teaspoon of cold medicine and someone who lives with ADHD to take their daily dose of adderal.

[anothersteve]

https://www.kmov.com/minneapolis-pol...b6c6cee57.html

Steve

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No, she said - "he was high." Her words. The autopsy report doesn't say that. She says it. And the amount of drugs in his bloodstream indicates that he was likely NOT "high" at the time of his murder. He might've dosed up several hours earlier and it took that long to wear off, but for his height, weight, body type - that amount of drugs in his system would've been similar to the average person taking a teaspoon of cold medicine and someone who lives with ADHD to take their daily dose of adderal.

Do you know what it means when a Medical Examiner does an autopsy and says "fentanyl intoxification" at time of death? It doesn't mean trace amounts, it means he was intoxicated with the drug. High. Now look up what "fentanyl intoxification" means

As an opioid drug, fentanyl intoxication can cause intense euphoria and affect the central nervous system as a depressant. Fentanyl intoxication can make it seem like a person is drunk at first, but it can go downhill rapidly.

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No, she said - "he was high." Her words. The autopsy report doesn't say that. She says it. And the amount of drugs in his bloodstream indicates that he was likely NOT "high" at the time of his murder. He might've dosed up several hours earlier and it took that long to wear off, but for his height, weight, body type - that amount of drugs in his system would've been similar to the average person taking a teaspoon of cold medicine and someone who lives with ADHD to take their daily dose of adderal.

Sounds more like he took his daily dose of meth (laced with fentanyl!) Floyd was a multi-decade drug addict, based on his prison record. He was high (according to his toxicology report), resisted arrest, refused to get into the police vehicle, voluntarily dropped to his knees (based on video surveillance) to resist arrest. The common denominator in all these cases is the suspect RESISTS ARREST. If George had cooperated with police, he, like many before, would be alive today.

NO, he did not deserve a knee to the neck till death... for the umpteenth millionth time. BUT... had he not resisted arrest, he would be alive today... like many before.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Do you know what it means when a Medical Examiner does an autopsy and says "fentanyl intoxification" at time of death? It doesn't mean trace amounts, it means he was intoxicated with the drug. High. Now look up what "fentanyl intoxification" means

As an opioid drug, fentanyl intoxication can cause intense euphoria and affect the central nervous system as a depressant. Fentanyl intoxication can make it seem like a person is drunk at first, but it can go downhill rapidly.

Ears.....meet silence. That's what it boils down to.
Steve

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Do you know what it means when a Medical Examiner does an autopsy and says "fentanyl intoxification" at time of death? It doesn't mean trace amounts, it means he was intoxicated with the drug. High. Now look up what "fentanyl intoxification" means

As an opioid drug, fentanyl intoxication can cause intense euphoria and affect the central nervous system as a depressant. Fentanyl intoxication can make it seem like a person is drunk at first, but it can go downhill rapidly.

The preliminary SUMMARY that was released to the public mentioned intoxication. Looking at the actual autopsy report you find he had 11ng/ml of fentanyl in his bloodstream. That is equivalent of .019mg. The average medically appropriate dose of fentanyl for assisting with ventilation analgesics is 25-100 mcg, which is between .025 and .1 mg. So he had under half the standard medical dose for people who actually benefit from its use, at the time of the autopsy. Not high. Perhaps feeling a bit woozy but fentanyl wouldn't cause someone to resist arrest. It would cause them to really not care much about it at all.

The methamphetamine in his bloodstream was higher - 19ng/ml. Now - methamphetamine, in a high enough dose, would absolutely make someone feisty. And dangerous. But at .19, he had in his body less than 10% of the standard dose of methamphetamine than the average person with ADHD takes every day to keep them calm. So again - not high. In the case of this particular chemical, not even particularly excited.

I'm mostly retired. It's raining. I have nothing better to do for much of the day other than learn things. It's a life long learning experience to me. I love learning new information. What I don't love, is people taking snippets of what other people say in summary of something that is factual, but not explained to the layman, and coming to conclusions and basing their opinion on these summary snippets - publishing them for the world to see, and then seeing an entire thread of people applauding that person for being courageous - even though that person clearly didn't present facts at all.

[GoFarm]

Originally Posted by Bellavita

DrunK - high- dead
George Floyd was a human being and the police killed him.

End of conversation

You are painting with a wide brush. The overwhelming majority of police officers are doing good. They shouldn't all be tarnished because of the action of a sole maniac.

[GoodLife]

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