[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Antique lady

At least 11.6 million criminal incidents were reported to law enforcement agencies throughout the United States in 1999; by 2018, that number had declined to just over 8.4 million despite a population increase of 20% during that time.
What that means is that even as the United States has swelled by more than 50 million people, both the number and rate of most crimes reported to law enforcement have dropped, and some have fallen by incredibly high rates. Without hope crime becomes the drug of choice.... Looks like before the pandemic and the gruesome murder of Mr. Floyd, that we all witnessed, we are all doing so very much better helping our youth have hope. Let's keep up the idea that this is a nation where hope still lives for all of people...

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

He is a symbol of things very wrong with this great country. He may also be a symbol for change and for the better.

More checks-and-balances is a very good thing and hopefully that is what will happen. Cops pointing out other officers' transgressions and doing something about these. Rather than just standing behind the blue line and allowing things to continue.

Floyd is a symbol all right. He burst into a home and held a gun to an eight month pregnant woman's stomach so he and a group of other thugs could steal everything they could find of value in her home.

I wonder how she, her husband and her child feel about this violent felon? She had to have been traumatized by this thug's behavior. I wonder how many other crimes like this he committed with which he got away?

[Antique lady]

Education is always the key. This young woman needs to educate herslelf about the history of this nation. She speaks without the benefit of knowledge.

I would advise all to view the History Channel's documentary entitled Black Wall Street which shares the story of the Tulsa massacre of African Americans when an ill informed white mob descends on their community. Go to youtube and type in Black Wall Street, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Black Wall Street - Full Documentary - YouTube

It illustrates the lengths whites have historically be willing to go in order to feel superior. Such thinking has always led to death and destruction..

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Antique lady

Education is always the key. This young woman needs to educate herslelf about the history of this nation. She speaks without the benefit of knowledge.

I would advise all to view the History Channel's documentary entitled Black Wall Street which shares the story of the Tulsa massacre of African Americans when an ill informed white mob descends on their community. Go to youtube and type in Black Wall Street, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Black Wall Street - Full Documentary - YouTube

It illustrates the lengths whites have historically be willing to go in order to feel superior.

Such thinking has always led to death and destruction..

Well stated!

The sad fact is that she, like so many others, have no clue as to what her ancestors had to suffer and go through, just so she can even just publicly express her views...regardless of how wrong-headed they are.

Just as so many have never stopped to even comprehend, that at the beginning of this nation, African-Americans were the ONLY immigrants...brought here in ropes and chains.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

The same people who wear Che and Fidel T-shirts will wear this one too.

I sincerely doubt that.

[Taltarzac725]

George Floyd paid for this crime.

The cops who killed him should pay for theirs.

I have been a very effective advocate for victims/witnesses of crime for most of my life.

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Floyd is a symbol all right. He burst into a home and held a gun to an eight month pregnant woman's stomach so he and a group of other thugs could steal everything they could find of value in her home.

I wonder how she, her husband and her child feel about this violent felon? She had to have been traumatized by this thug's behavior. I wonder how many other crimes like this he committed with which he got away?

[talleyjm]

One of the witnesses to the event said he was acting like he was drunk or on something. Let's stop trying to
canonize this guy. He was career criminal who was treated unjustly while being arrested. And he died because of it. Tragic.
I'm waiting for more facts to come out about cause of death. Odd that the first autopsy didn't fit the PC agenda so another autopsy had to be done that did. Experts can be bought and will say whatever you want them to say if you offer them enough money. We may never know what really caused his death. NONE of what's going on right now is about the death of this man. Read between
the lines. You don't murder other blacks and police officers, destroy property, loot, etc., because a black man died at the hands of
a white policeman. And it's only going to get crazier as November 3rd approaches. Buckle up!

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

George Floyd paid for this crime.

The cops who killed him should pay for theirs.

I have been a very effective advocate for victims/witnesses of crime for most of my life.

As I stated in my previous post #218, they will be tried in a court of law - and thereby "pay for theirs(crimes)". Duh!

From large numbers of your prior posts I know you are an advocate for victims' rights. Why don't you locate the pregnant lady to whose stomach Floyd held a gun and see if you can help her out in any way?

[eyc234]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Well stated!

The sad fact is that she, like so many others, have no clue as to what her ancestors had to suffer and go through, just so she can even just publicly express her views...regardless of how wrong-headed they are.

Just as so many have never stopped to even comprehend, that at the beginning of this nation, African-Americans were the ONLY immigrants...brought here in ropes and chains.

So you know this woman, know what she does & does not know and have intimate knowledge of her beliefs and thoughts. Then you degrade her for her thoughts. Then you tell all the rest of us that we have never learned, thought or comprehend the wrongs and the history of this country and humankind. As long as people of all ilks continue to deride versus discuss issues the divide will continue to grow.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by Antique lady

Education is always the key. This young woman needs to educate herslelf about the history of this nation. She speaks without the benefit of knowledge.

I would advise all to view the History Channel's documentary entitled Black Wall Street which shares the story of the Tulsa massacre of African Americans when an ill informed white mob descends on their community. Go to youtube and type in Black Wall Street, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

So because something happened in Tulsa Oklahoma in 1921, Candace Owens doesn't know anything about black/white history. Maybe she does know, maybe she wrote that PBS documentary. Maybe she has a genius IQ.

You could stop 100 black people at random on the street and they wouldn't know about it either. What's next, she has jump through hoops. Sounds like you've got the agenda, not this lady!!!

[John_W]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I have been a very effective advocate for victims/witnesses of crime for most of my life.

Good for You!! What's next on your docket?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by eyc234

So you know this woman, know what she does & does not know and have intimate knowledge of her beliefs and thoughts. Then you degrade her for her thoughts. Then you tell all the rest of us that we have never learned, thought or comprehend the wrongs and the history of this country and humankind. As long as people of all ilks continue to deride versus discuss issues the divide will continue to grow.

Why don't you address the subject of the thread, by using generic responses, instead of throwing out specific personal attacks...at those you don't like?

If you took personal umbrage at one of my generic statements, because you thought it applied to you...that's not my problem.

Thank you.

[graciegirl]

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I agree with this general comment of the poster eyc234 as usual and ask that eyc234 becomes a virtual friend on this forum.. It is the things of importance that matter in others that draws us to them. It is a feeling of attitude and the aura of fairness and the lack of hatred. I hope that eyc234 will accept this small token as a compliment. On this thread alone, I felt much the same about several people whose comments were based on a realistic approach and not on a lot of rhetoric that inflames and angers and separates and prejudges..

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

The sad fact is that she, like so many others, have no clue as to what her ancestors had to suffer and go through, just so she can even just publicly express her views...regardless of how wrong-headed they are.

White liberal explains racism to black woman.

[Antique lady]

At the end of the day we all must take time to learn United States history... the good the bad and the ugly.

Events of the past inform thoughts of today and governs our present beliefs and actions.

My hope regarding encouraging all to watch the History Channel documentary about the Tulsa Black Wall Street Massacre was to provide context for why we continue to have so little faith in one another across perceived differences.

Knowing U.S. history helps us understand the unexamined parts of what we think and do...It conveys why we seek to decide, based on someone's past whether or not they deserved to be murdered on primetime television.... Most of us here are mid-life and older adults. Our systems are full of various drugs.... We are in drug induced good health.....and I would be just as furious if anyone here was murdered in that same way. We would have an interesting toxicology report....

I am from that part of the country, near Tulsa, and the scars are deep but people there coexist without resentment. We are all just trying to live our best lives.....