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Old 04-03-2021, 08:20 AM
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No, a reason a person might want to get the J&J is because it is only a single shot or it is more readily available in their location. For a variety of reasons, it may be problematic for them to get a second shot of Pfizer or Moderna. Suggesting that anyone only get a single shot of the Pfizer or Moderna is silly - you do not know more than the developers and clearly the vaccine is designed to have two shots. I have not heard anyone suggest that the Pfizer or Moderna should be used as a single shot. There have been suggestions that the second shot could be delayed more than 3-4 weeks.

Any comparisons of efficacy between Pfizer/Moderna and J&J, regardless of the number of shots or Pfizer/Moderna, is meaningless. Stating that a single shot of Pfizer/Moderna is more effective than J&J is simply not a valid statement. The definition of a "positive" result during the trials, which was used for the efficacy calculation, was not the same for the trials of Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J. Nor was the timeframe of the trials or the populations that were used in the trials or the age profiles of those in the trials or the coronavirus variants that may have been in the populations of the trials. The best anyone can reasonably state is that the two-shot Pfizer and Moderna vaccines appear to be as effective as the single shot J&J in preventing serious disease or death. Health professionals have gone on record as stating that you should make your choice of vaccine based on whichever one you have faster access to.

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My point is that the J&J is being touted as the "one and done" vaccine. OK, I get that BUT.......the Moderna and Pfizer can ALSO BE ONE AND DONE vaccines and they STILL have a better efficacies than the J&J vaccine and only one shot.

The only reason that I can see for anyone to get the J&J vaccine is if that person is leery of the mRNA technology of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. As for J&J being the "one and done" vaccine, that should not be a part of the equation because the Moderna and Pfizer can also be one and done with a BETTER efficacy than the J&J.

Hope that makes my point clearer.

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Old 04-03-2021, 08:30 AM
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Did you see or read the CDC Director and the science behind it? If someone wants protection at this point, stay home.

Florida 50+ are eligible for vaccination, so no more excuses for anyone.

Dominoes delivers....
Florida just opened up vaccines to anyone 18 and older. 16 and 17 years old need parental consent
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Old 04-03-2021, 08:49 AM
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Why would anybody listen to someone who has a financial stake in the vaccine? (Fauci) And why would anyone listen to the government when it comes to what is best for us? You are ill informed if you get the vaccine. I work in healthcare and it’s not proven safe or what side effects it will have on your DNA. Blindly following messiah Fauci or the CDC is the definition of sheeple
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Old 04-03-2021, 08:50 AM
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With vaccine there no spread. With vaccine almost no risk of serious illness

Without vaccine need to continue masks even though risk becomes lower the younger you might be

Children under 12 are showing no signs of getting sick or becoming carriers of this virus.

Thats the latest science and data.

Now, do whatever makes YOU feel better.

I literally just saw that the virus surge is up 230% in kids under 12.

Its so difficult, we all should mask until......?
The surge to the little ones is probably from all the grand parents that thought they were safe to visit. 🤷*♀️
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Old 04-03-2021, 08:52 AM
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I will get vaccination but difficult to watch Dr. Fuji admire himself every day.
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Old 04-03-2021, 08:55 AM
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Why would anybody listen to someone who has a financial stake in the vaccine? (Fauci) And why would anyone listen to the government when it comes to what is best for us? You are ill informed if you get the vaccine. I work in healthcare and it’s not proven safe or what side effects it will have on your DNA. Blindly following messiah Fauci or the CDC is the definition of sheeple
1. Fauci gets paid whether he's right or wrong. He has nothing to lose by being truthful about what he knows.
2. Being a volunteer librarian in a childrens' hospital makes you a hospital worker, but it doesn't qualify you to know anything about virii, or vaccines.
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:01 AM
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Why would anybody listen to someone who has a financial stake in the vaccine? (Fauci) And why would anyone listen to the government when it comes to what is best for us? You are ill informed if you get the vaccine. I work in healthcare and it’s not proven safe or what side effects it will have on your DNA. Blindly following messiah Fauci or the CDC is the definition of sheeple

"Why would anybody listen to someone who has a financial stake in the vaccine? (Fauci)"

Where in the world did you read or hear, that Dr. Fauci has any financial stake, in any vaccine?
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:06 AM
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A couple of questions:

1) Since you stated that you work in healthcare, presumably for the purpose of attempting to establish yourself as a reliable source of information, it is certainly reasonable for us to know exactly what your position is and your education. Please provide both.

2) Questions about the vaccines, both the mRNA based Pfizer and Modern vaccines and the adenovirus virus based J&J vaccine, impacting DNA have been debunked. Do you have a reputable source to suggest otherwise?

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Why would anybody listen to someone who has a financial stake in the vaccine? (Fauci) And why would anyone listen to the government when it comes to what is best for us? You are ill informed if you get the vaccine. I work in healthcare and it’s not proven safe or what side effects it will have on your DNA. Blindly following messiah Fauci or the CDC is the definition of sheeple
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:10 AM
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"I really think that Darwin will weed out those that refuse the vaccine and we'll be left with those that survived."


...I really think that those that have received the vaccine may, at some time in the future, be weeded out by some virus variant because their natural immune system was compromised by the vaccine, and we'll be left with those healthy folks with a robust immune system that did not need, nor want, the vaccine.[/QUOTE]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣......oh, that was a good one.
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:25 AM
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Fauci needs to remain relevant. This Administration walks all over the CDC statements. They need to speak with one voice so the public has the knowledge to make the best decisions going forward.
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:25 AM
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Just a guess here, but the most likely explanation that I can think of is that since there's no way to readily tell if someone has been vaccinated or not, the decision to wear a mask or not would be on the honor system. Her and Fauci's concern isn't so much that people who have been vaccinated will spread the virus, it's more that people who haven't been vaccinated will no longer feel the social pressure to wear a mask, and that they'll be the ones spreading it.
Yes , I agree, and you can see this attitude in action already. At Home Depot yesterday even some employees were without masks.
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:39 AM
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100% agree.
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:41 AM
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100% agree. The government is like the IRS......”we are here to help”. Couldn’t be further from the truth.
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:43 AM
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Since this is an “experimental vaccine “, who knows what good it does, how long it lasts, if you can get Covid after receiving the shot, or if it works at all?? The lab tests failed on rats....they died, so there’s no proof of anything g yet. That’s why millions of Americans are now the “lab rats”.
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:47 AM
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I don't know the names of any of the 3,950 people in the study that prompted this thread and therefore I don't know the names of the 44 who became infected after being vaccinated... but they exist.
I'll bet the main stream news does not report about those vaccinated who have gotten it again. I've read many articles that has happened & not just in the US. This is about keeping people scared, out of work & control. Numbers on arms next.
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