[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

There's no "anti-vaxxer movement" and no one is stopping anyone from getting the vaccine. I know people from different walks of life, race/ethnicity, religion, income level, political ideology who do not want to get the vaccine. They have nothing else in common, only that.

Believe what you like but there most certainly is an anti-vaxxer movement. This has been going on long before Covid arrived on the scene. Covid has given this anti-vaxxer movement a lot of publicity and it seems to be in our faces at this point.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Yes, today in a world overloaded with information sources. Each person must choose wisely where they get their information. it would be my advice that Facebook is the absolute worse place to go to be informed. Use Facebook ONLY for communicating with friends. It is well known that the Facebook software is designed to keep users on their site for as long as possible. FB moves vulnerable people off of a middle-of-the-road position slowly and surely towards the fringes of thought and society - it is like slumming or washing your hands in a sewer - ultimately a sewer of misinformation.

It would be nice if someone wrote a how-to book about a correct way to pick RELIABLE news sources. I feel that many people (as evidenced by this forum) have NOT chosen well.

And this brings us back to the CDC. Some people rail against it. Yet I find it very informative. I know enough Science to know Science changes. And then the CDC changes to give Americans the BEST AVAILABLE and current information. Life changes faster today than it did in the 1960s before information overload. WE older peons have to work harder to change and be open to finding good information. I advise trusting the CDC over trusting Facebook.

I use facebook primarily to communicate with friends and family. Also to watch cute animal videos.

[drducat]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

N95 masks, with a perfect fit around the face, is supposed to filter out 95% of airborne particles. That is pretty darn good protection.

Have you ever used an N95....pretty hard to breath if your moving around much.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by orangeblossombaby

this veterinarian's opinion was debunked last march.

addressing geert vanden bossche’s claims — deplatform disease

i also checked with snopes, because it's what i always do. I found a link to the letter he wrote, read the entire thing, and noticed he just very conveniently happens to mention that the only prevention for this virus is a vaccine that he invented. How convenient is that?

Snake oil, meet your salesman.

rotflmao!!!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

There's no "anti-vaxxer movement" and no one is stopping anyone from getting the vaccine. I know people from different walks of life, race/ethnicity, religion, income level, political ideology who do not want to get the vaccine. They have nothing else in common, only that.

OK now I know you are just punking this forum. No anti-vax movement? For serious? There has been a militant, dangerous anti-vax movement ever since there've been vaccinations.

Here's a primer, for those who have sincerely been living under a rock for the past 200 years.

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Okay, a little looking revealed that The vaccine company is recommending boosters, Israel is moving forward with boosters, here, we are still studying the idea.

Here is a link to a Yale Medicine article that discusses it, and an issue I had not thought about, the moral issue of should we vaccinate the rest of the world before providing boosters for people already vaccinated. I would prefer to get the rest of the world vaccinated before providing booster shots here. But, I will leave that decision to my PCP.

Boosters are going to be a hard sell here without strong evidence that their effectiveness has worn off. And what about the variants? They've had a hard enough time getting people to receive the three vaccines let alone booster shots!

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by drducat

Have you ever used an N95....pretty hard to breath if your moving around much.

It's even harder to breathe when you are dead.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

Boosters are going to be a hard sell here without strong evidence that their effectiveness has worn off. And what about the variants? They've had a hard enough time getting people to receive the three vaccines let alone booster shots!

See, I can tell you don't bother to read provided links because your "questions" about booster are addressed in the Yale article. But, you aren't interested, are you?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

Denigrate him all you want, and if you've looked at Fauci's resume, it's even less credible, but what he predicted came true. When he spoke about this there were no variants, only talk from the CDC about possibly needing a booster later in year if they vaccine's effects wore off.

Variants occur when there are hosts for the virus, not because of vaccinated people. This guy made a prediction that Americans would not get on the vaccine bandwagon, therefore providing this virus with LOTS of hosts. THAT is what has cause these variants, NOT vaccinated people. Sheesh.

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by PugMom

i can see your point, however, it's not that we HATE fauci. since his hacked emails were released, we know the extent of his truths & falsehoods. how can i possibly trust someone who has his own interests in mind? i don't come into things with preconceived notions, its the persons' behavior that leads me to suspicion

Oh boy, more "hacked emails"!! Gimme!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I advise trusting the CDC over trusting Facebook.

A no brainer.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I use facebook primarily to communicate with friends and family. Also to watch cute animal videos.

I closed my Facebook account years ago. I actually never did use it. Don't ever go on it.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by drducat

Have you ever used an N95....pretty hard to breath if your moving around much.

Nope, never have. Anyone who wants protection from this virus and does not want their breathing hampered by an N95 mask should get themselves vaccinated. No worries about not being able to breath!

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

OK now I know you are just punking this forum. No anti-vax movement? For serious? There has been a militant, dangerous anti-vax movement ever since there've been vaccinations.

Here's a primer, for those who have sincerely been living under a rock for the past 200 years.

There's anti-vaxxers for regular vaccines (those who think they are filled with dangerous chemicals which will give their child allergies, autism, etc.) and those who are anti-COVID/gene therapy. Two different scenarios. The 2nd group is a much more diverse crowd, spanning age groups, income and education levels and race and ethnicity. For instance, Latinos are very anti-Covid vax but not for regular childhood vaccines. Something about the mRNA making men impotent or sterile...hmmmm.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

It's even harder to breathe when you are dead.

You have a very good point there.