[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ctmurray

After your post I looked this up. And indeed the death rates are about the same. The BIG difference is that we have were shut down for weeks, some have been social distancing and wearing a mask, and hospitals have been aggressively trying to save lives. In 1957 they did none of these things. So Covid-19 is much more communicable and deadly. This is why the scientists and doctors involved recommended these mitigation efforts as they saw this from the early infections.

The 57 flu was just as contagious and deadly as covid 19. All you have to do is look at infection rate and deaths per million. The big difference between the two diseases is not social distancing and masks. In 1957, thanks to Hilleman, we had a vaccine ready. Without that vaccine, 57 flu would have killed A LOT more people.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

The 57 flu was just as contagious and deadly as covid 19. All you have to do is look at infection rate and deaths per million. The big difference between the two diseases is not social distancing and masks. In 1957, thanks to Hilleman, we had a vaccine ready. Without that vaccine, 57 flu would have killed A LOT more people.

SO......that was then and this reality is NOW.

I think the point of our discussion now, today, with us, in The Villages, is just stayin' alive.........and most of us are trying to. NOT DEBATE WHAT USED TO KILL PEOPLE BETTER.

'I can tell by the way you do your walk you're a woman's man, no time to talk.'

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

SO......that was then and this reality is NOW.

I think the point of our discussion now, today, with us, in The Villages, is just stayin' alive.........and most of us are trying to. NOT DEBATE WHAT USED TO KILL PEOPLE BETTER.

'I can tell by the way you do your walk you're a woman's man, no time to talk.'

I just checked and most of us are not in the class room anymore.

So we talk about anything we please (within forum guidelines)

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

SO......that was then and this reality is NOW.

I think the point of our discussion now, today, with us, in The Villages, is just stayin' alive.........and most of us are trying to. NOT DEBATE WHAT USED TO KILL PEOPLE BETTER.

'I can tell by the way you do your walk you're a woman's man, no time to talk.'

What I took away from the information he provided is NOT that this ain't so bad, but that we have endured similar calamities and withstood, persevered and risen from the ashes a better nation and stronger people. Panic and hysteria is neither healthy or productive. Panic resulted in a toilet paper drought, as well as hand sanitizer scarcity and super markets being cleaned out like the results of a swarm of army ants.
But, like I have said before, if one is not running amok yelling "the sky is falling. It's the end of the world" then we are accused of saying this is all a hoax.

Personally, I look forward to the information provided by this OP. And he has NOT down-played this pandemic. He has only provided information so that many on here can feel more informed and knowledgeable about the illness and the degree of damage it is capable of. Let's face it, the media is not helping much, and seeks to sensationalize whatever they deem newsworthy. And who can trust the gov to provide details (either side of the political spectrum)?

I bet I would get a reaction if I was to don my bio-hazard suit to go shopping. When asked, I could simply say "didn't you hear, the CDC is recommending that everyone wear a bio-hazard suit for protection, because this thing will eat through your skin and hair."

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

I just checked and most of us are not in the class room anymore.

So we talk about anything we please (within forum guidelines)

Is that all ya got?

[Bucco]

Perhaps we will hear the very latest US govt touted video. The star is Dr. Stella Immanuel.

In addition to her cures for Covid, she also believes that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Perhaps we will hear the very latest US govt touted video. The star is Dr. Stella Immanuel.

In addition to her cures for Covid, she also believes that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.

Government touted? The woman has a storefront church and questionable education at best. Government touted??????

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Government touted? The woman has a storefront church and questionable education at best. Government touted??????

Government and family tweeted her video labeled MUST WATCH

[NJRICHARD]

Facebook, Google/YouTube, Twitter Censor Viral Video of Doctors' Capitol Hill Coronavirus Press Conference

[Bucco]

No vaccine worked on like in 1957, but lots of people tried to get attention....

"A group of public health and national security experts who sent some of the earliest and most dire warnings to officials across the .... administration about the gathering coronavirus crisis is now offering a searing assessment of how the federal government blundered through the critical first months of a lethal outbreak."

As coronavirus threatened invasion, a new '''Red Dawn''' team tried to save America - ABC News

"“We were generally concerned that this was going to be a threat to our nation,” Marcozzi, now a senior official at the University of Maryland’s medical school, told ABC News."

[Two Bills]

Can you not wonder at some of the nonsense you read on TOTV concerning the virus, when questionable 'Doctors' like Dr. Stella Immanuel actually get airspace on the media?
Vaccines with micro chip implants to track you, population depletion plots fom a software seller, the list from dumbnuts gets longer each day!
Look after yourselves, because the lunatics are truly taking over the asylum!!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Can you not wonder at some of the nonsense you read on TOTV concerning the virus, when questionable 'Doctors' like Dr. Stella Immanuel actually get airspace on the media?
Vaccines with micro chip implants to track you, population depletion plots fom a software seller, the list from dumbnuts gets longer each day!
Look after yourselves, because the lunatics are truly taking over the asylum!!

Ask yourself who EXACTLY is giving them the air space. Not networks...they report what is going on with our government.

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Yeah...he must find some more obscure, mostly with a P twist, to copy and paste on here. This is an inflated ego on steroids.

Gets very old....his/her manipulated quotes...out of context, mis stated, and used to present his P views while believing he/she is intelligent.

He never address things like you questions, unless he can find an obscure website that fits his needs.

We are dealing with an ever changing situation, and one that does need any more P stimulation

This the same old pot, stirred by the same trolls. The comparison to Sweden (where the government didn't institute a lock down) didn't work out so well, so now let's compare COVID to ________ (fill in the blank). In these days of the internet, you can find an 'expert' - some very well-respected, others much less so - to back up any theory you like. (The one about Bill Gates , presented in an earlier post to this thread is a prime example. )

We still hope that long-lasting herd immunity applies to Covid-19; but the simple fact is that nobody knows. It sure doesn't seem to have worked out well for Sweden. Sweden hoped herd immunity would curb COVID-19. Don'''t do what we did. It'''s not working.
The Mayo Clinic, WebMD & others aren't quite so rosy about the theory either:
Herd immunity and COVID-19 (coronavirus): What you need to know - Mayo Clinic
Herd Immunity: What Is It and Can It End The Coronavirus Pandemic?
Sweden shows why herd immunity for coronavirus won'''t work in America - Business Insider

There were quite a few differences in the pandemics of 1957 and 2020. There was a vaccine for H2N2 in trial within 2 months of the virus reaching the US, so severe measures weren't likely considered necessary. Also, "Making a vaccine for a new flu strain is very different from making a vaccine for something completely new like COVID-19" Early Detection of the 1957 Flu Pandemic Helped Slow Its Spread - HISTORY This fact alone could explain a totally different reaction to the outbreaks. Plus, back in 1957, there were no politicians, bloggers, self-proclaimed visionaries, alternative news sources or conspiracy theorists calling H2N2 a hoax.
And really, even IF the death rates from H2N2 & Covid-19 eventually prove to be similar, SO WHAT?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Perhaps we will hear the very latest US govt touted video. The star is Dr. Stella Immanuel.

In addition to her cures for Covid, she also believes that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.

You mean that ISN'T the cause?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You mean that ISN'T the cause?

Well, at least two, with influence, give it a shot and as a result, millions contemplating.