[Villages Kahuna]

Originally Posted by Mortal1

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If someone goes around without a mask and doesn't sneeze or cough on you or something you touch(and if you do touch I assume you're applying a sanitizing solution of at least 70% alcohol)then you have nothing to worry about.

Please, please, just wear one for the rest of us. If we’d all just be a community thinking of one another, we’d have the original virus and probably the variants beaten by the Fourth of July. Is that too much to ask, neighbor?

[Bill14564]

Seems like we have "just four more months to flatten the curve" facing off with "been there, done that, bought the T-shirt."

it would be interesting to see an analysis of mask wearing and shutdowns between different populations in the US; perhaps CA or NY compared with FL. It would also be interesting to see actual data on mask wearing and social distancing in our area. If masks were the answer then there should be some correlation between states with strict mandates and states without mandates. If the correlation does not appear, if states seem to be affected similarly regardless of compliance with mask wearing, then maybe we need to look for a better solution.

[sasman29]

Thank you for that. Now i know why surgeons don't wear bandannas in the OR

[Iowagirl2]

People who have been vaccinated or have natural immunity from having COVID (like I have) do not need to be masked; it would be pointless.

- David H. Dallas RN, EMT-P (retired)
I am a retired RN, EMT-Paramedic with an ASN degree graduating summa cum laude, a member of 2 national honor societies, with past American Heart Association certifications in Advanced Cardiac Life Support and Pediatric Advanced Life Support.

Dhdallas

Out of curiosity how do you know you have a natural immunity from having Covid?

[fastboat]

Originally Posted by popbaby2

After following many discussions in TOTV, I see there are still lots of COVID deniers. COVID is going down, but not very fast and it is still very much of a threat. It went way up over the holidays, as so many people travelled, partied etc. But look at this chart that I put together from data published on The Villages News, which they get from the government. It shows the 7 day average of new cases, and the trend line. Average new cases from July to October were under 10 - even in July. They have dropped from a daily high of 65 beginning of January to 30 over the past week. That is still too high everyone!!!!! Wear your masks, and try social distancing for awhile to see if we can beat this. This would be a terrible way to die. And the death rate for us over 65's is 5% and gets higher as you get older.

I have seen CDC numbers in December that corroborate this.

Before you review the Food For Thought ... I found these number interesting. As reported by the CDC ... Here are the US deaths by year and the change from the previous year

Year 2017 2,818,503 Americans died

Year 2018: 2,839,205 deaths (20,702 more than the previous year 2017)

Year 2019: 2,855,000 deaths (16,300 more than the previous year 2018)

The year of the pandemic ...

Year 2020: 2,913,144 deaths (57,641 more than the previous year 2019)

BUT WAIT: There were zero deaths from Covid-19 during 2018, and 2019 and the jump from 2019 was only 57,641 ???

I've been told that Covid is responsible for now 400,000 + deaths. Shouldn't the 2020 number be a hell of a lot higher?

So the question becomes: How many people died OF COVID and How many died (of other causes) WITH Covid?

[banjobob]

I have read ,true or not but makes sense. “ The testing for covide is done by degrees , test is set to detect the very smallest of any known presence of the virus, thus many positive test and so many false positives. Not to say the virus is not very serious but with so many testing with very minor or no effects of the virus the constant death headlines just fuels anxiety.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fastboat

I have seen CDC numbers in December that corroborate this.

Before you review the Food For Thought ... I found these number interesting. As reported by the CDC ... Here are the US deaths by year and the change from the previous year

Year 2017 2,818,503 Americans died

Year 2018: 2,839,205 deaths (20,702 more than the previous year 2017)

Year 2019: 2,855,000 deaths (16,300 more than the previous year 2018)

The year of the pandemic ...

Year 2020: 2,913,144 deaths (57,641 more than the previous year 2019)

BUT WAIT: There were zero deaths from Covid-19 during 2018, and 2019 and the jump from 2019 was only 57,641 ???

I've been told that Covid is responsible for now 400,000 + deaths. Shouldn't the 2020 number be a hell of a lot higher?

So the question becomes: How many people died OF COVID and How many died (of other causes) WITH Covid?

Please provide a link to your CDC numbers. I believe those numbers have been fact-checked as misleading.

Here is a link to a CDC page showing far more than 57,000 additional deaths in 2020.

Here is another graph from a different site that might be easier to read.

[b1ll649]

If you look at the annual increases in deaths, it would be expected to go up about 20,000 or so. With Covid in 2020, the 57,000 more deaths also includes increased suicides, drug overdoses and murders all caused by lock downs and restrictions on daily life. I think Covid has caused some to die but no where near the number that gets reported over the past year.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

From all the research reports I have read, 3-6 months seems to be the consensus for antibody protection, before their effect begins to reduce.

We are only 6 weeks into widespread distribution of the vaccines and only 3 weeks into 2nd shots given. It is way too early to tell just what the longevity of the antibodies are but remember the MRNA teaches your immune system (T cells) to respond to actual Covid if you get it by making more antibodies.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by b1ll649

If you look at the annual increases in deaths, it would be expected to go up about 20,000 or so. With Covid in 2020, the 57,000 more deaths also includes increased suicides, drug overdoses and murders all caused by lock downs and restrictions on daily life. I think Covid has caused some to die but no where near the number that gets reported over the past year.

According to this data directly from the CDC the number of deaths had already increased by more than 20,000 by June 2020. The numbers fastboat provides, at least for 2020 deaths, appear to be incorrect.

[Byte1]

Get the vaccination or don't get it. Wear a mask or don't wear a mask. Go out or cower at home. Your decision, but don't presume to demand that others conform to whatever standard you insist is better than the norm. You all don't seem to get it. I don't modify my lifestyle for your convenience. I had no intention of getting the vaccination until I did some research on it. I decided that it was not dangerous and since I was helping my spouse secure her shots, I found it convenient to go ahead and get mine at the same time. I do not believe that I would have ever become infected, and figured that even if I did, I would shrug it off in a few days. I wear a mask when there is a sign on the door of the business. Once I get my second shot, I will get the flimsiest and thin mask I can find and carry it if I am out shopping in case it is required to enter a business. Many of you demanded that other folks "protect" you by wearing a mask. Now, there will be no reason to think that I am going to infect you because I won't have the virus. I don't have it now, and haven't had it. But, most of you run amok in hysteria thinking that everyone around you is infected.
So, do what you wish to protect yourselves because it is not anyone else's responsibility to take care of you.

[Al2014]

never have I seen such a level of misinformation and a bombardment of articles that focus on rare atypical cases.
It seems to me that this is now standard procedure for all the breaking news on talk show media channels.

[mlmarr1]

Originally Posted by popbaby2

After following many discussions in TOTV, I see there are still lots of COVID deniers. COVID is going down, but not very fast and it is still very much of a threat. It went way up over the holidays, as so many people travelled, partied etc. But look at this chart that I put together from data published on The Villages News, which they get from the government. It shows the 7 day average of new cases, and the trend line. Average new cases from July to October were under 10 - even in July. They have dropped from a daily high of 65 beginning of January to 30 over the past week. That is still too high everyone!!!!! Wear your masks, and try social distancing for awhile to see if we can beat this. This would be a terrible way to die. And the death rate for us over 65's is 5% and gets higher as you get older.

👎 be in charge of your own selfcare.. when did you start.. just asking..

[joelfmi]

I have been say for months that the N95 mask used for contagious diseases is the best Medical mask for covid I don't for the life of me why CDC is not telling people to use the N95. The surgical masks and home made cloth masks are the worst for protection from virus transmission. If your care about not getting covid 19 in PUBLIC PLACES BUY THE N95 THIS COMES WITH HANDS ON EXPERIECE WORKING IN NYC HOSPITALS FOR 26 YEARS

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by John41

Warmer weather should bring a reduction in the virus activity. It’s the variants that might keep us wearing masks for years.

The British variant is said to take over in the US around June. It has produced cases close to TV Land recently.