[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Just like Brees did initially, you've totally missed the whole point.

I'm also curious, as to your suggestion(s) on what other "means" should be used to show that..."Black Lives matter?"

And what is the point......it is a football field not a political stage
So what are we missing

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

It takes a big man, who is showing true leadership...to do this.

Drew Brees Apologizes (click here)

Maybe we should stand up for what the flag represents.....do research on that

[JimJohnson]

Having a white america and a lesser black America will always have these problems. Being White, I continually witness racism and discrimination of Black Americans. It must stop.

[regas56]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

I disagree. I’m a 22 year Army Veteran and have great respect for what Kaepernick did. He had a large audience to bring an incredibly important issue to the forefront. God Bless Kaepernick.

Thank you for your years of Service.. I respect your opinion but in my opinion I think Colin's actions has had the complete opposite effect as he intended. When we do something that many consider radical or blasphemous people tend to insert Politics and then take sides on the issue to the point it becomes more of a battle than a movement..One good thing I've noticed though is it seems Mr Kaepernick has brought a ton of additional awareness to our great flag as I've never seen more on display as I've seen the last couple years.. When a person kneels for the flag and anthem sadly MILLIONS can't help but see hate, how about if he puts his hands UP in the air and says a prayer that to would be noticed and few would not love and respect that thus listening to his message..

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Nobody cares what celebrities, athletes, musicians have to say. Their ability to throw a spiral or make faces for the camera have nothing to do with making sound moral decisions.

Drew's agent probably told him his sponsors were getting blowback so make an apology. Big whoop.

Agree wholeheartedly.

[diamond2005]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

It takes a big man, who is showing true leadership...to do this.

Drew Brees Apologizes (click here)

You do know why he apologized, don’t you? It was
not because he developed a soft spot in his heart. Who are 85% of the people on his team.

[dplars]

two ways to look at his caving to PC pressure. Its not like he advocated something offensive to most Americans, Offensive only to those who feel they are victims of the system. We are, first all.....Americans.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by diamond2005

You do know why he apologized, don’t you? It was
not because he developed a soft spot in his heart. Who are 85% of the people on his team.

I agree with your assessment. So Drew apologized because he offended some people. Very compassionate. How many people did Colin offend? I don't remember him apologizing to the people he offended. I guess apologies for offending people go one way.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by coalminer

Kaepernick was simply trying to get a message out in a peaceful way. Of course the racists ignored the message by wrapping themselves in the flag. Now we have hundreds of cities across America witnessing the effect of that. The country is in turmoil and only we can stop it. It's time we recognize that white privilege is real

Baloney

[regas56]

Originally Posted by cherylncliff

Thousands of good christians kneel in church each week. Is that desecrating the church or their beliefs. No! It is considered a sign of respect. When knights of old knealt in front of the king, was that disrespect? No! It was a way to show homage and fealty to that institution before which they knealt. These players are respecting the flag and the country while still communicating that they repect these things despite the prejudice and unjust treatment they receive due to the color of their skin.

I sure hope it's way more than 1000's in Church.. IMHO we kneel in front of our God because we are not worthy to stand in his presence and we kneel in front of a King to show our subservience (meekness) and if they didn't they may get their heads removed.. When a hero comes home from battle we stand and applaud not kneel, when a person gives a great speech or and entertainer moves us in a positive way we rise to the occasion not kneel with our heads bowed.. We are standing out of respect showing our appreciation to the 1st line workers today for their work and bravery during this epidemic.. I stand and applaud out of respect, I kneel out of fear or compliance..

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by Tom2172

No! It the death of free speech
It’s the mob demanding total compliance
Diversity of thought not tolerated!
Bulling by the mob until compliance with their group think
It’s the death of freedom

No, it is, at least to some extent, a blind man opening his eyes when confronted by the truth.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by daddymac1127

A 22 year Veteran. Thank you for your service. I doubt that you have used the National Anthem to protest or bring awareness to a cause.

You can bet didn’t in the Army.

[Heyitsrick]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

How many times does it have to be said so that people understand - IT WASN'T ABOUT THE FLAG.

You say that, but Kaepernick says otherwise. Here (again, as I posted this upthread) is his quote:

Originally Posted by Colin Kaepernick

I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game.

"To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.

The man explicitly mentions the flag in his reasoning. Again, people can agree with his motives for kneeling all day long. But he absolutely chose the anthem (and flag) as his way of making his statement. There's no dispute about this. It's his own words that say as much.

[allenmo]

People care as much about what they have to say as they do about what you have to say. If their views are to be ignored so should yours.

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

Then it has ALWAYS been DISrespectful to stand for the flag/anthem. There has NEVER been a time nor will there ever be a time when there is/has been liberty and justice for all. There has and always will be injustice in this world, at least as long as there are humans in it. Also, I don't know of anyone who has said that Kap should have been arrested for what he did (THAT would be rejecting the 1st amendment). But saying that you do not support his method of protesting, is merely exercising YOUR 1st amendment right also. Expressing one's disdain for disrespect for the flag/anthem via comment or boycott of NFL/sponsors is exercising the 1st amendment. I am sure that you would support that exercise of 1st amendment just as much as the other, right?