[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Sorry, but a lot of folks do not understand what this is all about.
Folks, it has nothing to do with "women's rights." It's about STATES RIGHTS. The SC doesn't give a rat's @** about whether or not a woman wishes to use abortion as a means of birth control. The SC is looking at whether or not the SC via Roe/Wade had the authority to disregard States Rights regarding making laws.

It absolutely does have to do with women’s rights. What the court is deciding is whether women have a constitutional right to privacy which extends to a right to have an abortion. If women do have that constitutional right then the States cannot prohibit abortion. If they do not have the right then it is up to the States to decide. But the decision is whether or not the right exists in the constitution.

Repeating my point from earlier today, the last time a human rights decision was left up to the States it didn’t work out well.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

After the Supreme Court decision, abortions will continue. They will just be done UNSAFELY in backstreet hideaways.

Except they won't... Just another ridiculous fantasy on your part...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

But abortion has been around forever, and nothing to do with stereotyping by race or social standing.
In fact, it is a very equal opportunity procedure. Open to all of the required gender!

Except Planned Parenthood has the vast majority of their clinics in the inner city neighborhoods... 79% of their clinics are located within walking distance of African American or Hispanic neighborhoods... And they perform about 350K abortions/year...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

True

False. You have absolutely nothing to back that up...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The point about AG Garland is NOT whether he would have made a good or bad supreme court Justice - the point is that he was CHEATED out of the opportunity.

Bull...

Your words: "a PATHETIC stalling of the chance to put a highly qualified person on the court (Merrick Garland) during the Obama administration"...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Keep the good, throw away the bad!

You get to work on that...

Here's a "How To"...

U.S. Senate: Amending the Constitution.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Rejecting Roe v Wade will have deep and harmful effects on WOMEN and all of US society and LAWS! Not to mention the next 2 elections.

What are the numbers? What % of women get abortions? How many are in states that will not ban it?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

It's so hard to agree with this when the very premise is not true.
1. 75% of the population cannot have babies, therefore the percent of people being "controlled" could not possibly be 75%. We won't even go into the fact that many women (don't know the percentage) are pro-life. Therefore the number being controlled couldn't possibly be 50%. Then females who have gone through menopause or are pre-adolescent or infertile. You see how the "controlled" is far less than 50%.
2 Your statement that only25% are pro-life is not even close to accurate. So, once you release the "facts" you offer to support your position are "misinformation", it is much harder to provide the desired weight to the argument.

I agree with this post...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by ScottGo

I remember a neighbor dying from a coat hanger procedure back in the good ole 60s. Guess we're going backward.

Yes, because that is sure to happen... Said no rational person ever...

And I'll wager you remember "being told" that someone died of a "coat hanger abortion"... Not that it actually happened...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Actually you are mostly wrong.

Many states will now pass laws allowing abortions so people who want them can just take a ride to one of those states and have her abortion.

42 states now have legal abortions. 8 states still have unenforced, pre-Roe abortion bans which "could" be enforced it Roe is overturned. Interestingly, Michigan & Wisconsin are two of them...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

And, when is the last time you actually saw a wire coat hanger?
😒

Every time I get my dress shirts back from the cleaners...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Caymus

What I found amusing was that Fauci skipped the event.

But, he went to the pre/post-event parties...

He looked like "Number 2" from Austin Powers...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Polls asked people, do you support Roe v Wade? About 20% said....NO they do NOT. Thus, at least 75% said that they DO support Roe. That.s where I get my percentages.
.....Your #1 It doesn't matter how many can have babies. The question is about who agrees that Roe should be the law of the land. Both men and women and young people and older people can have that OPINION regardless of whether they can have babies. They are ENTITLED to an opinion. and I contend that the opinion of the minority 25% should not get their way over the opinion of the 75%. maybe I am talking APPLES and you are thinking ORANGES?
Your #2.........I was not mentioning "pro-life". I was talking about the about 20% that the poll said wanted to eliminate Roe as a precedent. I see this poll as saying that 20% of all Americans want to FORCE a pregnant woman TO HAVE A BABY AGAINST HER WILL. 80% of all Americans want the women to have the right to choose.
.........I see there to be 2 worlds .......one is a progressive freedom-loving FUTURE for WOMEN.
..........and the other world.......is a backward in history return of women to their former role as 2nd class citizens.
..........the 1st world accepts EVERYONE as EQUAL ....women equal to men in pay and all other things. The races as equal and accepts the changing numbers of whites versus non-whites
..........the other world prefers (and hopes) that things NEVER change. That whites are FOREVER seen as superior to non-whites and PAID more. That men are FOREVER seen as superior to women (and laws and other roadblocks will keep women down forever!)
.........One of these worlds is reality and one is a delusion!

Most people have no idea what Roe v Wade actually says...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Taurus510

Sure the vaccines work. That’s why the nerd prom in D.C. turned out to be a “super spreader” event. Everyone in attendance had to be vaccinated and have a negative test, and yet, so many who attended are getting the Rona. These vaccines work about as good as a 1985 Yugo barn find.

This event does NOT prove that vaccines are ineffective as some are trying to say. Vaccine effectiveness is BEYOND question at this point in medical experience. What this DOES prove is that no medical professional ever said that ANY VACCINE is 100% perfect at preventing disease. At this point caution and commonsense still need to be utilized. This is a VERY contagious disease that is still dangerous.
........It was NOT a good idea to even HAVE this event. A big crowd INDOORS, not wearing MASKS - someone HAD to catch the virus. Probably loud laughing spreads the virus droplets around more violently and the dinner lasted a long time. Therefore, more exposure than say a trip to Walmart.
.......The important take-away from this is be vaccinated and boosted and also AVOID indoor crowds. Africa and even parts of the US is having increasing Covid cases. There are 2 NEW variants of Omicron now in Africa. And China has an economic downturn because of Covid. So, the takeaway is .....don't knock the vaccines which are good, but NOT
perfect. And DO use common sense and older people should NOT stop wearing their masks indoors.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Good post. And to piggyback.........today we have the US's GREATEST wealth disparity. And the MOST of ALL 1st world nations. Go US of A.........you are #1

Irrelevant... As usual...