[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Not an excuse, if it wasn’t her it was the people she is responsible for, so it ultimately falls on her.

Not sure that follows. Rarely would an employer be responsible for the actions of the employee especially if that employee would be expected to use their own judgment in a situation far from the control of anyone else.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Not sure that follows. Rarely would an employer be responsible for the actions of the employee especially if that employee would be expected to use their own judgment in a situation far from the control of anyone else.

Not sure that follows... Ever heard of the term, "Captain of the ship"?

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Not sure that follows. Rarely would an employer be responsible for the actions of the employee especially if that employee would be expected to use their own judgment in a situation far from the control of anyone else.

Really??? Rarely??? Who gets sued when something happens in a business, the employee or the business owner?

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Not sure that follows. Rarely would an employer be responsible for the actions of the employee especially if that employee would be expected to use their own judgment in a situation far from the control of anyone else.

Really? The employees were acting within the scope of their employment and not off on a frolic of their own.

It is my understanding you attended law school...remember Joel v. Morison?

Joel v Morison [1834] EWHC KB J39 (3 July 1834)

and respondeat superior? Respondeat superior Definition & Meaning | Merriam-Webster Legal

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

Really??? Rarely??? Who gets sued when something happens in a business, the employee or the business owner?

Facts matter. If it is a person sent ahead to make sure there is a parking space to recharge an electric car I doubt if the Secretary had much of an input in these actions.

Someone that did not clean up on Aisle 11 could be sued along with the supervisor, store owner and maybe even the chain involved if there is one. That would depend on the facts.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Facts matter. If it is a person sent ahead to make sure there is a parking space to recharge an electric car I doubt if the Secretary had much of an input in these actions.

Someone that did not clean up on Aisle 11 could be sued along with the supervisor, store owner and maybe even the chain involved if there is one. That would depend on the facts.

Her people work or her so she takes responsibility or at least she should.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Her people work or her so she takes responsibility or at least she should.

The problem is that she is being blamed for some mess up by an employee or maybe even just a civil servant of some kind.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The problem is that she is being blamed for some mess up by an employee or maybe even just a civil servant of some kind.

She is to blame and should be blamed. As their employer she is responsible for their acts within their scope of employment.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The problem is that she is being blamed for some mess up by an employee or maybe even just a civil servant of some kind.

It was "her team"...

Are you really trying to make excuses for her?

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Facts matter. If it is a person sent ahead to make sure there is a parking space to recharge an electric car I doubt if the Secretary had much of an input in these actions.

Someone that did not clean up on Aisle 11 could be sued along with the supervisor, store owner and maybe even the chain involved if there is one. That would depend on the facts.

And how much input did the chain have on the person not cleaning up Aisle 11?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

And how much input did the chain have on the person not cleaning up Aisle 11?

Depends on the facts. Maybe the mess on Aisle 11 was caused when the store was closed and they had not hired enough people to clean first thing in the morning when a shopper fell.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I recall when I was writing all the Attorney Generals of each state about the Florida Victim Services Directory and a link to their state's version of it in various libraries' websites in their states that Ms. Jennifer Granholm responded with a letter that she would look into it for the State of Michigan. Or something like that. This would have been around 2002.

Only a few AGs responded.

Well, just for starters she has lied under oath and violated the Hatch Act since then.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Depends on the facts. Maybe the mess on Aisle 11 was caused when the store was closed and they had not hired enough people to clean first thing in the morning when a shopper fell.

I love your fantasy explanations... Maybe it was Aliens!