[msilagy]

18% of the population is black....50% of crimes committed are done by blacks. When a police officer says you are under arrest - obey - and nothing will happen most likely.

[ribil]

Originally Posted by George Page

Speaking of “100%”, I’m guessing that 100% of the people that resist a police officer and do not comply with their instructions run the risk of the encounter escalating, regardless of skin color.

That’s why people don’t pet alligators. They pretty much know they are in danger of getting hurt. Too many police men and women have been hurt or killed reacting to a particular type of suspect. Is that profiling? You betcha.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by John41

The media has been portraying white police officers as having a bullseye on the black population. Here are the facts you will never here from the media.

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Reports of racially motivated, fatal shootings by police officers have garnered extensive public attention and sparked activism across the nation. New research from Michigan State University and University of Maryland reveals findings that flip many of these reports on their heads—white police officers are not more likely to shoot minorities citizens than non-white officers.


"Until now, there's never been a systematic, nationwide study to determine the characteristics of police involved in fatal officer-involved shootings," said Joseph Cesario, co-author and professor of psychology at MSU. "There are so many examples of people saying that when black citizens are shot by police, it's white officers shooting them. In fact, our findings show no support for the idea that white officers are biased in shooting black citizens."

The findings—published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, or PNAS - are based on an independent database Cesario and his team created that catalogued each police shooting from 2015. The team—led also by co-author David Johnson from University of Maryland—contacted every police department that had a fatal police shooting to get the race, sex and years of experience for every officer involved in each incident. The team also leveraged data from police shooting databases by The Washington Post and The Guardian.

"We found that the race of the officer doesn't matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,"

Wait a min. White or Black police shooting, white, Asian, Spanish or black. I’ve never heard of a police ever saying I haven’t got my quota on a certain race. If they did why is there protest saying BLM. What’s that trying to tell us & look at the protest crowds on the news. Now talk about being racist. There’s more black shootings from private black citizens shooting other blacks than white police shooting blacks in a yr. Look at Chicago, I bet there’s 30 blacks shot by other blacks there in 1 day than police shot in a yr. BLM is just BS so blacks can do whatever they want & police are suppose to look the other way.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I didn't know that "black people being *shot* by white police" was the issue, so much as black people being chased, shot, tazed, accused, jailed, charged, beat up, battered, physically assaulted by white police, more than white people who were under suspicion of the same crimes.

Orange baby - I hate to be apples about this - really, respectfully - there was a large omission. The bias in the Judicial branch and better lawyers for the Prosecutors, causes blacks to often get harder sentences for the same crime as whites.
Respectfully, apple baby. The overall intent and content of the Orange post was "right on".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Statistics to support an opinion? Pretty sure I don't need any. I was under the assumption that the "issues" were not "white cops shooting - exclusively - black people."

It's based on what I thought. So - 100% of all people who use the handle OrangeBlossomBaby on websites dedicated to Talk of the Villages - agree.

There's your statistic.

Orange ROCKS! And talks the talk. And walks the...........whatever? Forever? Is cleaver? Or never?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

All people are chased, tased, and shot when they don’t obey the law and try to injury police officers. Obey commands to live another day, disobey and put yourself in danger. When you fill the shoes of police officers and being shot at often you tend to be jumpy trying to stay alive. This happens daily in some crime ridden cities.

Yes, a social problem dating back to the mid 60s when lBJ almost solved it with the Civil Rights Act. He stopped short of a fix for the isolation into opposing ghetto camps. Busing was not enough - just a bandaid! If the US had, back in the 60s, then succeeded with a real community mixing program, we would now be ALL more of a similar color and much less polarized. LBJ was so, sssooo close to a permanent solution to domestic peace! Try the love thy neighbor principle more.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Tom2172

If you can watch movie shadowgate on YouTube how government contractors use Ipsy social media to influence with propaganda - they are pushing this white cop narrative - they want to defund the police and be in charge

Nice conspiracy reference. I must be watching the wrong news.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by musicjack999

13% of the population is committing over 60% of the crimes.

So, find a solution. What say you? Greater Wealth disparity - I don't think so?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by llewopyaj

Let's acknowledge that there needs to be a constant heightened awareness that there is an appropriate way to treat suspects in stopping, chasing, questioning, and arresting them. No stereotyping by race, ethnicity, or looks. Even though a suspect's behavior may be undesirable and suspicious in nature, a suspect should be treated in a authoritative humane civil manner. The police need to maintain control of the situation with humanity and dignity. No short order. A high duty and responsibility.
Proper, thorough vetting recruits, training, evaluation, and retention of officers needs to be done in a way to best ensure that racial bias and inappropriate behavior does not appear in officers. And, when all is said and done, there needs to be a realization that bad things happen, especially in the heat of the moment, and not to throw out the proverbial baby with the dirty bath water. Rioting, defunding the police, and lawlessness certainly are not justified in any way; they are counterproductive and destructive.

That just oozes logic. Very well written. Sums it all up in a neat package.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mamamia54

I have never heard of anyone , any color, who didn’t resist arrest being tased, beat, etc. If you are being arrested and are resisting a fighting, that’s another story. Certain drugs in the system can make even the smallest woman like Superman. What should the officers do, ask to sing Kumbaya. It is getting harder and harder for police to do their jobs. Most people won’t care, might even be glad. This will affect all of us, not just criminals. We all might have to have encounters with police officers not only for criminal reasons. When they are defunded and don’t show up to help maybe a little Kumbaya might. Also, if you haven’t been in a police officers shoes, don’t talk like they fit you!

Think of this factor - police body cameras have opened the eyes of America to what is REALLY happening. We saw Floyd get MURDERED with our eyes. THAT is why the BLM protests have MANY young and some old WHITE citizens so emotionally charged. We can see and count the WHITES. And please don't tell me the Floyd situation was an outlier! If that were true there would not be so many WHITES joining BLM. And sure, there are some anarchist groups taking advantage - they always do. Technology developed the Police cameras. In about 10 years, NEUTRAL robotic POLICE will be doing much of the patroling. Then, hopefully, this argument will be moot.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I wonder what the stats are on the race of the shooter in most COPs shot every year.

According to the FBI, about half the COPs killed in recent years have been by black suspects. Hmmm, considering that America is populated about 13.4% by black Americans, that seems like a very large ratio. If black suspects are more apt to kill police than white suspects, it seems logical to think that the police would be a bit leery when interacting with black suspects. Oh, and in most years (other than 2019) 100% of the COP killings were perpetrated by males. In 2019 one killing was by a female.

Interesting factor - gender. That MIGHT? indicate that improved social techniques WOULD be worth a try. I remember the little BLACK boy in the park with a toy gun and the PoliceMAN that drove his car within pistol range to engage the kid and did NOT wait for backup. Or gave the kid and the situation time to evaluate. Then just BLEW him away. He was definitely MALE. I think I remember? him as being white?
Why not try having volunteer female social 3rd and 4th year college students doing "ride alongs". I would say pay them. But regardless many colleges are not open. Could be a good experiment. Who watches the Watchmen?????

[jimjamuser]

The key word in Post 39 is "NEIGHBORHOODS". Because the US in the 60s did not succeed with eliminating GHETTO neighborhoods through civil rights, we have this mess still with us today. WE need leaders for future generations. MY generation barely got BUSING. We ffffedd up way back then. And YES I DO feel guilty!

[Jokomo]

Study that claims white police no more likely to shoot minorities draws fire | Science | AAAS

Discredits the study you cite. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[Mikeodonnell73]

It would be interesting to see what the makeup of people who shot at police officer is with reference to race.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I didn't know that "black people being *shot* by white police" was the issue, so much as black people being chased, shot, tazed, accused, jailed, charged, beat up, battered, physically assaulted by white police, more than white people who were under suspicion of the same crimes.

The city where I lived in Illinois was 50,000. The stats there were 10% African American lived there and the crime stats were 80% of the crime was committed by African American. So there is that too.