[djwill27]

Originally Posted by Heyitsrick

If there are other videos that exist that show events prior to the the ones we've already seen, they provide context, if nothing else. No, I didn't say exoneration. Not even close. I said context.

Of course, if people just want to think that this all happened in a vacuum with a cop who just wanted to murder someone, well, that's up to them. I'd like to know the events as they occurred. And police organizations around the country would likely benefit from having access to those, just to train what not to do in each of the initial phases of the process of dealing with someone who was going to be arrested.

I’m saying there is no context, once Floyd was under arrest and in handcuffs the police have no excuse for murdering him. He put his knee on his neck and killed him. At the very least he didn’t care if he died. There were other cops there and they didn’t stop him so they are guilty too. This happens all over the country where people are abused, lied to, and sometimes killed by the police.

Most of the time these abuses don’t make the news. Still, this is a huge problem. Most police departments have these officers in their ranks and something needs to be done to stop it. Trying to figure out context, whether he had drugs in his system, if he had a heart attack doesn’t matter. Those things are all defending systemic racism and abuse of our fellow human beings.

Fixing the problem will help all police departments, the thin blue line is a cover up and a threat to good cops not to speak out.

[LorrieR]

The cop still killed him.

[chrisad50]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

It would serve to taint the jury pool

I guess when the media only released a segment of the video, it DIDN'T taint the jury pool??

[greenflash245]

doesn't matter, he was still murdered

[hrdcorpsmarine]

And you know this how? Are you a former police officer?

[JoeinFL]

Originally Posted by EileenK

What is wrong with you people!! You believe “evidence” that has not been seen over what we all have seen. If someone was kneeling on my neck, I’d be ‘actively resisting and acting erratic’ to get out from under my attacker’s grip. There are right and wrong ways to hold a suspect and not one includes kneeling on their neck and throat.

Agreed. I heard that he was resisting in the car. But, they had him completely under control and his knee was on Floyds neck rocking back and forth.

[quietpine]

Can you imagine being tried by the racist mob that dominates almost any conversation on this site? Put away your robes folks. The constitution gives everyone the right to trial by a jury of their peers. It even protects people like you!

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by Coal Miner

People please quit buying into these conspiracy theories.

We will, IF you promise to quit using a weaponized term that was invented by the CIA, in response to the JFK assassination, to quash opposition to the government narrative on what occurred! Now where did I put my tin hat

Fred

[loweglor]

Originally Posted by Martian

"I also take issue with the term "murdered". Murder is a very specific term. In order to convict Officer Chauvin of murder, it would have to be proven that he intentionally killed Floyd and did it with premeditation. He would have had to have gone out that day with the idea that he was going to find George Floyd and kill him. "

Well, almost - the word murder does mean "premeditated killing". On the other hand legal murder does not require premeditation - more often called homicide. There are many forms of legal "murder", premeditated is just one of those forms. A murder can take place on the spur of the moment in an emotional context.

Murder (United States law - Wikipedia)

First-degree murder

Any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought.

Felony murder

A charge that may be filed against a defendant who is involved in a dangerous crime where a death results from the crime, is typically first-degree.

Second-degree murder

Any intentional murder with malice aforethought, but is not premeditated or planned in advance.

Voluntary manslaughter

Sometimes called a crime of passion murder, is any intentional killing that involves no prior intent to kill, and which was committed under such circumstances that would "cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed". Both this and second-degree murder are committed on the spot under a spur-of-the-moment choice, but the two differ in the magnitude of the circumstances surrounding the crime.

Involuntary manslaughter

A killing that stems from a lack of intention to cause death but involving an intentional or negligent act leading to death. A drunk driving-related death is typically involuntary manslaughter (see also vehicular homicide, causing death by dangerous driving, gross negligence manslaughter and causing death by criminal negligence for international equivalents). Note that the "unintentional" element here refers to the lack of intent to bring about death.

At the very least, barring more evidence to the contrary, the officer was guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

It seems we have evolved into a very judgmental society - every single thing that happens must be neatly forced into our own vision of reality.

#sad.

"Can't we all just get along"...

Police get special training to handle all kinds of situations. People look to them for safety, protection and skill. People also expect police to be honest, trustworthy, understanding and in control. Do people understand that police are human too. Absolutely, however, people still expect police to possess the ability to know when a situation turns bad and expect the police to mitigate it not aggravate it. In this situation, none of the police did their job and a man died. Instead of trying to defend their actions, they should be upset about the result and admit they were wrong. Unfortunately, it seems, these particular officers could care less that a man died for no reason other than complete loss of control and human consideration. Very un-police like.

[PaulaW]

The video they showed on TV was more than enough proof he was murdered. How could anyone possibly believe otherwise.

[BlackhawksFan]

Originally Posted by John41

Judge refuses to release to public video exonerating police officers in Floyd arrest.

The footage shows Floyd “actively resisting and acting erratic," Gray said, adding that releasing pieces of the video has resulted in incomplete news reports and benefits prosecutors.

In correct and inaccurate. Do better.

There's 6 week old stories all over the place about this security video rom China Wok restaurant showing his compliance.


George Floyd didn’t Resist Arrest |NEW SURVEILLANCE VID SHOWS MOMENTS BEFORE KILLING - YouTube

[Fl3232mi340]

Originally Posted by John41

Judge refuses to release to public video exonerating police officers in Floyd arrest.

The footage shows Floyd “actively resisting and acting erratic," Gray said, adding that releasing pieces of the video has resulted in incomplete news reports and benefits prosecutors.

Disgusting - We had heard all about Floyd's actions before he was killed, of course they don't want that shown, it will acquit the officers or would bring a lesser charge.
This is not the America we all know and love!

[Martian]

Originally Posted by loweglor

Police get special training to handle all kinds of situations. People look to them for safety, protection and skill. People also expect police to be honest, trustworthy, understanding and in control. Do people understand that police are human too. Absolutely, however, people still expect police to possess the ability to know when a situation turns bad and expect the police to mitigate it not aggravate it. In this situation, none of the police did their job and a man died. Instead of trying to defend their actions, they should be upset about the result and admit they were wrong. Unfortunately, it seems, these particular officers could care less that a man died for no reason other than complete loss of control and human consideration. Very un-police like.

I agree, being licensed to kill comes with a grave responsibility to handle that license responsibly.

There will always be bad Apples, but as with Apples, the best thing to do is to separate them from the good Apples before they all go bad.

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by ficoguy

You think the officer will get a fair trial?

Unfortunately, in our modern world, you only get your day in court. With a dearth of impartial judges and jury pools comprised of people who would be lucky to compose a cogent thought, a "fair trial" is often as elusive as a pink unicorn. And, in this situation, the MSM has him already convicted; the only thing left is the drawing and quartering.

All one need do is review the many comments on the subject on TOTV, without the TOTAL evidence, he's already convicted … frightening! I guess we no longer require a "jury of our peers". We are now so advanced, as a civilization, that we can "try and convict" on the basis of the MSM coverage alone. And let nothing (including additional facts) get in our way.

Fred

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by EileenK

What is wrong with you people!! You believe “evidence” that has not been seen over what we all have seen. If someone was kneeling on my neck, I’d be ‘actively resisting and acting erratic’ to get out from under my attacker’s grip. There are right and wrong ways to hold a suspect and not one includes kneeling on their neck and throat.

Actually, the restraint moves used against this guy were in use by police all across the country with no mortalities and have never to this day killed anyone white, black or purple. The jury will be shocked when the non-political evidence is presented.