[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Does anyone really believe that this new holiday will improve race relations? I think it will do the opposite.

reference 1917 Russia. Same playbook. Same result. Millions die.

[zendog3]

Originally Posted by Cranford61

Government work is soul-sucking. To survive you must put your free thinking mind into a spider hole until, hopefully, when you retire, you can recreate your life. Few do.

Open season on federal employees. Please!
I was in the military for 4 years. Not the hardest work of my life, but please don't slander the military. As a medical librarian for a state, I worked with people from the National Library of Medicine and the National Institutes of Health. As a group they were very hardworking and dedicated people. Here in TV the folks in the local post office are working as hard as most in private business. So, lets back off and not take a slap at a lot of people who are working hard to make life better for all of us.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Zenmama18

But isn’t Good Friday a Federal Holiday?

No.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Billy1

The United States Army rode in and freed the slaves, we have a wonderful military. Lets celebrate.

Actually, we have an all volunteer army. Very dangerous!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by J1ceasar

1% also pay 35% of ALL income taxes . Top 5% - 50% . Don't complain..

I will complain that the US is today about 30th on the world list for "upward mobility" - and the US has the greatest WEALTH DISPARITY of ALL 1st world countries. Those are SOME important things to complain about - and I imagine that 50% of Americans are unaware of those facts because the 1% pushes its propaganda SO WELL!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That is a Historically SHALLOW, racist, and insulting thing to say. It probably violates the intent of the Hippocratic Oath! I would certainly prefer to have as my Doctor, a person OPENMINDED enough to endorse the Historic significance of Juneteenth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is VERY profound, in that, it signifies the end of one race OWNING another race. That is LONG overdue in the US! It IS a BRIDGE toward a future where mankind demonstrates more humanity.

More far left BS, but not surprising. I simply was making the point, if you actually read the whole post, that I didn't think this rated a national holiday, and I feel it is more than covered by MLK day, Lincoln's birthday, and Memorial Day, which honors a president that actually signed the emancipation, the Union soldiers that died to end slavery, and a great leader that helped give civil rights to his people. BUT NOOOOOOO......you skipped the first line where I stated slavery was an abomination and then cherry picked one line out of context to make some point or another, although it is unclear what that may be, and launch a personal attack at the same time. WAY TO GO-----YOU'VE OUTDONE YOURSELF!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neils View Post
When are the special holidays for American Indians? Italian Americans, Asian Americans, Latino Americans?




FALSE!

"Tribal territories and the slave trade ranged over present-day borders. Some Native American tribes held war captives as slaves prior to and during European colonization. Some Native Americans were captured and sold by others into slavery to Europeans, while others were captured and sold by Europeans themselves In the late 18th and 19th centuries, a small number of tribes adopted the practice of holding slaves as chattel property, holding increasing numbers of African-American slaves.[1]

European influence greatly changed slavery used by Native Americans, as pre-contact forms of slavery were generally distinct from the form of chattel slavery developed by Europeans in North America during the colonial period.[2][3] As they raided other tribes to capture slaves for sales to Europeans, they fell into destructive wars among themselves, and against Europeans.[2][3][4]"

From: Slavery among Native Americans in the United States - Wikipedia

This is an EXCELLENT argument in favor of getting rid of Thanksgiving as a holiday. It points out the shame of our country for glorifying the hostile takeover and attempted genocide of Native Americans.

Thank you for bringing it up.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Juneteenth is important to ALL (100%) of HUMAN beings because it ANNOUNCES that NO HUMAN being should own ANOTHER human being. That IS just as WRONG as wrong can be!

I agree 100%. But does that mean we should declare a national holiday?????

Murder is wrong, should we have a national holiday (I'm willing to bet you are against capital punishment as well)
Embezzlement is wrong---how about a Bernie Madoff Day?
Adultery is wrong......well, you get my point

Everything that is wrong, everything that is important does not rate a national holiday, if it did, we'd have 365 day a year off, and one more in leap year. (Oh, wait, I'm retired so I do have 365 days/year off)

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

If you include sick leave, 13 days, vacation, 26 days (for those with 15 years of service), and holidays, 11, it comes to 50 days off. And, the day after Thanksgiving is often added as a day off, by the President.

Not grossly over what most companies give.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by jbrown132

I bet next they will change the work week from 40 hours to 32 hours so everyone will have three day weekends.

It will ABSOLUTELY happen in the NEAR future because A.I. and ROBOTIC will be doing the work of people. It IS the future and could cause some degree of social disruption. Society and government will have to solve the problem of people with maybe too much free time. How can they keep their lives meaningful?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It will ABSOLUTELY happen in the NEAR future because A.I. and ROBOTIC will be doing the work of people. It IS the future and could cause some degree of social disruption. Society and government will have to solve the problem of people with maybe too much free time. How can they keep their lives meaningful?

They could post on TOTV

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

They always get a day off for a holiday that occurs on a weekend. It is either a Friday or a Monday.

13 days of sick leave per year may not sound like a lot, but it can be accululated over the years. So, if you are a supervisor of long term employees, many of the employees will have the option of using an entire year of accumulated sick leave and be absent from the job any time they want. They can even use it to care for another person they know. There are many Federal employees in their 60s, 70s, and 80s, who almost never show up for work. A "for profit" business could never operate with those rules.

For-profits could absolutely operate with those rules, but the greedy CEOs making 300 MILLION per year would have to "struggle by" making only 30 MILLION per year. We would feel so, SO, sorry for those poor CEOs , College Chancellors, and Congress People.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Can you provide any evidence of this?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Cranford61

Government work is soul-sucking. To survive you must put your free thinking mind into a spider hole until, hopefully, when you retire, you can recreate your life. Few do.

Also, a way to survive in the US military!

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

It is so sad to see so many mean spirited posts in this thread that show no appreciation of American history.

Agree...but I think it's because half of them don't know what the heck they are talking about. One says it happened this way, then someone else prints out practically a book....too much..... just be happy these people are freed and honored.