[Blackbird45]

Let's not forget these are not government entities.
Business should be able to set there own regulations.
We keep on hearing the right not to get vaccinated.
The cruise lines should have the right to keep these people off their ships.
I totally understand why the Governor wants to remove all restrictions, it's good for Florida's economy.
But we all know if things go badly, like all politicians no matter what party they always deny and blame someone else.

[Fore!]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Not quite but almost. Some cruise lines have ID bands for the vaccinated passengers to wear so they are easily identified and are allowed admittance to "vaccinated ONLY" areas of the ship. They also have their cruise ship card identify them as vaccinated.

I wonder about the people who already have immunity. Why isolate them? What about all the break through cases of COVID in people who are already vaccinated? When one of those people come down with COVID on the ship, then what? They may have infected all those they were around ….is everyone then going to be isolated? Just because someone is vaccinated does not mean they can’t pass the virus to others. So many scenarios that you should consider besides your great idea to isolate those that have not been vaccinated. And before you all goes nuts..I am not an anti vaxxer

[Fore!]

Originally Posted by Garywt

We are booked for next year. good to see that proof is needed to go. no different than cities requiring proof before they let anyone inside a building

Or the government requiring proof of citizenship to enter the country. Or the government requiring proof of citizenship to vote. Right?

[Fore!]

Originally Posted by Garywt

We are booked for next year. good to see that proof is needed to go. no different than cities requiring proof before they let anyone inside a building

Or the government requiring proof of citizenship to enter the country. Or the government requiring proof of citizenship to vote. Right?

[Fore!]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Do the statistics show that Covid survivors are not having re-infections at all with the Delta variant? Are they completely immune to variants?

Breakthrough infections of vaccinated people are extremely low according to this report. Vaccinated cruises still seem to be extremely safe with these kind of numbers........

More than 99.99% of fully vaccinated people have not had a severe breakthrough case, CDC data suggests

Right, and I believe the CDC? Lol

[Fore!]

Originally Posted by waterflower

Nazi troops forcing you to take a experimental liquid in your body. People have lost there ability to understand these corporations do not care about your health. They shame you into following the heard.Turn your brain on, or did all the pharmaceutical meds get to you. Why don't they give your free vitamins C, D, Zinc, elderberry. What up sheeple

Amen. If they would turn off the media and do their research and study history, they’d be much better off

[Seamus6]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

Cruise ships are germ incubators. This is one industry that shouldn't have come back. Even before COVID, they were the source of every nasty virus out there. Remember all those ships quarantined because of outbreaks of Norovirus? That happened often, as well as other nasty diseases. My friend went on a cruise to Hawaii and got so sick that on the way back the ship had to make an emergency dock in Mexico so she could be taken off the ship in a stretcher and taken by ambulance first to a Mexican hospital and then across the border to an American one.

Norovirus is far more common on land than at sea. The only reason you here about it at sea is they are required to report to the feds. Out of 15,000+ cruises a year, they might have 5 outbreaks a year, maybe 10 in a particularly bad year but they all make the news, they don't write about other 99.9% of cruises with no outbreak or write (except maybe a county newsletter) about outbreaks at your grocery store salad bar, school cafeteria, buffet, stadium, movie theatre...etc. Also the cruise ship personnel are constantly sanitizing and are well trained how to do it. Homer at your local restaurant is probably using the same "cleaning" rag to wipe the counters at when he started 4 years ago and maybe washes it every month whether it needs it or not!
If you don't feel safe on a cruise ship, by all means stay on land for your piece of mind but if you eat at any of the places I mentioned, you are already taking a much higher risk than on a cruise ship, albeit a less publicized one.

I hope all stay healthy and happy.

Looking forward to my steamship cruise in September with 300 or so other 100% vaccinated fellow passengers and crew.

[tmbozoki@gmail.com]

Sadly so many now are more concerned about their perceived "safety" versus our hard fought liberties and rights. Russia and China loves this saga.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

Good, they shouldn’t! Thanks to all those anti-vaxxers, we can no longer trust the vaccine. As stated by all medical experts.

Really? Because of the "anti vaccers" you don't trust the vaccine? Me thinks there is some underlying reasons and you are using that as an excuse.

[Hiltongrizz11]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

i'm not cruising again until all of this nonsense is over

Well for the person that said they would never go on a cruise again until this nonsense was over, put your stuff away cuz you'll never go on a cruise again.

This fear-mongering will never be over. It might be seasonal like the flu at a minimum but it will never be over. So keep living your life in fear and discriminating against those who are not vaccinated even though they may have better antibodies than you, the Great Vaccinated One.

[Hiltongrizz11]

Originally Posted by JoMar

I hope whatever group decides to put others in harm way we can identify and take steps to keep those that want to not be in harms way protected.

Nothing can never go wrong with that kind of thinking can it? It's not like history has demonstrated a dozen times that when people start thinking like that, The inferior people start dying.

Way to go

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

Good, they shouldn’t! Thanks to all those anti-vaxxers, we can no longer trust the vaccine. As stated by all medical experts.

Errr...The Delta variant was first spotted in India and was not caused by creepy anti vaxxer Fox news watchers who drive pick up trucks.

[Dgodin]

Originally Posted by fishon

I wonder how many groups we will be able to discriminate against in the future with this court decision?

Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court upheld the authority of states to enforce compulsory vaccination laws. The Court's decision articulated the view that individual liberty is not absolute and is subject to the police power of the state.

[kendi]

Originally Posted by Seamus6

Norovirus is far more common on land than at sea. The only reason you here about it at sea is they are required to report to the feds. Out of 15,000+ cruises a year, they might have 5 outbreaks a year, maybe 10 in a particularly bad year but they all make the news, they don't write about other 99.9% of cruises with no outbreak or write (except maybe a county newsletter) about outbreaks at your grocery store salad bar, school cafeteria, buffet, stadium, movie theatre...etc. Also the cruise ship personnel are constantly sanitizing and are well trained how to do it. Homer at your local restaurant is probably using the same "cleaning" rag to wipe the counters at when he started 4 years ago and maybe washes it every month whether it needs it or not!
If you don't feel safe on a cruise ship, by all means stay on land for your piece of mind but if you eat at any of the places I mentioned, you are already taking a much higher risk than on a cruise ship, albeit a less publicized one.

I hope all stay healthy and happy.

Looking forward to my steamship cruise in September with 300 or so other 100% vaccinated fellow passengers and crew.

Depends on the cruise line as to how well they clean. CDC has them rated.

[dankipp]

We go on two NCL cruises - "Outlaw Country", and "Cayamo" (Americana music). We really hope to be able to sail next spring, reasonably safely. We hope NCL will be allowed to require that we and our fellow passengers to be vaccinated.
We live in Nashville (and TV), and we love music and musicians. When John Prine died last year, Nashville mourned. We love our music, and our musicians, and we want to enjoy it with others so inclined. Please get vaccinated, if you haven't already, and let's have some fun, together!