[sk450]

Then he was not murdered . To b murdered he would have had to stop breathing there and then. Now the officer might be charged with excessive force or contributing to manslaughter but there again let the ME due his job so get your verb age right.

[Marvic 1]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

So what should be done with the rioters and looters? Let them walk and have their day because they are oppressed? Right, most of them are doing it because they can, no other reason.
Steve

........ Have you notice a lot of these rioters are WHITE .....

[llmcdaniel]

I agree that these policemen should all be charged. However, you don’t know what you’re talking about with regard to how high risk or low risk policing is. My son is an officer in Las Vegas, and I’m here to tell you that he has witnessed and been involved with all kinds of violence toward the police. Examples: rich whites spitting on and verbally abusing the cops; poor white racists attacking minorities just because; gangs attacking each other on the street and in jail; thugs attacking parole and probation officers when they check on parolees wherever they may live; cops being threatened for ticketing or arresting people. He has seen more death and mutilations than a lot of people in the military do. Also, when a policeman is called in to testify by IA or a district attorney, it can mean jail time and the loss of your career if you lie. Television shows do not depict the real truth in many cases. Are there bullies? You bet there are, but it has been my son’s experience that they are weeded out in LV.

[regas56]

Originally Posted by sk450

Then he was not murdered . To b murdered he would have had to stop breathing there and then. Now the officer might be charged with excessive force or contributing to manslaughter but there again let the ME due his job so get your verb age right.

What?? that is not true in the least.. If you beat a man and put him in the hospital and he doesn't die for a week or two later it's still murder..

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by nututv

Just curious? What's the story on the dead guy? Why was he in cuffs, does he have a rap sheet, has he been thru the system before?

Would any of that dictate having a knee on his neck for 8 or 9 minutes?

[regas56]

Nobody said to not take it to Court everybody gets their day in court AND it didn't take seconds it took many many minutes to kill that man.. He had MORE than enough time to stop the torture but he chose to ignore the pleas because of one of two reasons, he was Jacked up on adrenaline (not an excuse) or he was a coward and still afraid to get off the suspect even though he was totally subdued.. YES if some video should surface that shows this suspect needed to have his necked kneeled on for 9 minutes resulting in his death or if the autopsy shows he died from another cause I'll be the 1st to admit I may have jumped to conclusions.. I predict involuntary manslaughter at the very least but we will see..

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

What makes me very sad is that this is making a lot of people think all law enforcement are unfair and brutal. I have observed on Live PD Law Enforcement holding people with their knee to the neck as these people were trying to escape, kicking and hitting the officers and were actively trying to harm law enforcement. I think that restraining someone with a knee to the neck is common practice. It appears brutal but perhaps necessary in many situations. I too wonder if this man WAS in handcuffs?? If he was, was he still attempting to kick or escape? I know that every law enforcement officer is not perfect. But their job is to restrain and to arrest. Did this man die because of his air flow being cut off? Or were there other factors? Had he taken drugs? If so could that have killed him? To me some things are crystal clear, such as the men killing the man in Georgia. We cannot be judge and jury to anyone. That was a LYNCHING to me, pure and simple. I am just asking people who know. What happened before the picture that we see of the police officer kneeling on his neck? I hope I am not being racist. I have seen many, many white men restrained with a knee to the neck. I watch Live PD. a lot.

Yes, he was cuffed behind his back, but he was strong and trying to get up or roll away. He had already done that several times. Most of the cop’s weight was on his other knee, not on his neck. People who can’t breathe usually don’t keep talking. You are right about this being a common hold-down gonebad. You are right about letting the investigation take its course.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Marvic 1

........ Have you notice a lot of these rioters are WHITE .....

I wouldn't say "a lot" , I don't know what videos or coverage you have been watching.
Second I never said or implied anything about any race of any of the .....um......"protesters" (as some would like to call them)

Steve

[Bjeanj]

I have watched two videos of this incident.
1) the actual arrest, with Mr. Floyd being handcuffed, then walked across the street to a patrol car where Mr. Floyd was either forced to the ground or somehow became laying on the ground: Surveillance Video Shows George Floyd Before Killing, Mayor Calls for Charges

2) the officer kneeling on his neck : Dan Bongino calls '''disturbing''' video of George Floyd arrest '''really, really tough to watch''' | Fox News

In my opinion, unless I saw exculpatory video/testimony, I would charge the officer, at a minimum, with manslaughter.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Sometimes when people are on drugs it causes them to be extremely strong and out of control. These officers certainly didn't expect what happened here. Not all cops are good guys, but I believe most of them are;

Live PD Officers Fight Guy - Bing video

Careful what you believe on LivePD. The participating departments have reserved the right to edit the films, most are on a timed delay. I recall a department here in Florida that wanted a longer delay and could not get it in the contract so they opted out.

[karostay]

So many hypothetical experts it's amazing

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Unbelievable! But I missed why George Floyd was being detained in the first place?

Go visit any news web site...………………………..

[regas56]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

Yes, he was cuffed behind his back, but he was strong and trying to get up or roll away. He had already done that several times. Most of the cop’s weight was on his other knee, not on his neck. People who can’t breathe usually don’t keep talking. You are right about this being a common hold-down gonebad. You are right about letting the investigation take its course.

HE DIED!! Did he deserve that?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The good thing about this forum is this. Most of us are old enough to perceive evil. And to recognize good. There are some who enjoy making people angry and who always find ways to upset any kind of discussion. It is wrong to hate people because of race. It is wrong to overlook terrible wrong things. Orange Blossom Baby who I respect has just said that I missed the earlier part of the video and this person who did do a bad thing, a non violent bad thing did nothing at all to resist arrest. My point is this. A lot of times, police officers have to do that, lean on someone's neck in order to put on cuffs. There are bullies among police officers and there are bullies on this forum. I wonder sometimes when I see the extreme views of some folks how their wives fare. I hope if these officers are guilty they are tried for murder. We should not allow what they did to influence our respect of good police officers. One is just as wrong as the others.

My point again is...……..some posters just really enjoy being self righteous. And finding fault. EVERYONE ON THIS EARTH has pages in their book they don't want read aloud.

There are pastors and teachers and police officers and others who have done awful things. And they need to pay the price.

Some people can present things in such a way that even if you agree with them you are annoyed.

"to put on" He had them on. This defeats you argument....

[Marvic 1]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

I wouldn't say "a lot" , I don't know what videos or coverage you have been watching.

Steve

You see what you want to see, here is what I see......