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It seems to me he disregarded the police's directions. I don't think he meant to do harm, but he probably felt entitled to do as he wished. The biggest story for me is that he got out of jail, made it to the course in time to play, and shot 5 under!!!! Obviously the shocking reality seemed to have hit him the next day though .
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Lots of speculation, remember people in this country are innocent until proven guilty. Let the dust settle, and the facts come out, before passing judgement on someone with both a squeaky clean record and reputation.
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1) It seems to me he disregarded the police's directions.
2) he probably felt entitled to do as he wished.
3)The biggest story for me is that he got out of jail, made it to the course in time to play, and shot 5 under!!!! .
1) U R assuming he heard/saw the officer.

2) Wow........trash the guy without knowing facts.

3) The biggest story is the unfortunate death of the man.
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There have been no posts about the situation at the PGA tournament yesterday. First of all and most importantly, condolences to the family of the victim of the shuttle bus accident.

That being said, even though the facts aren't all known, I'll pose this question for speculation:

Scottie Scheffler----master criminal or victim of an overly exuberant police officer?
Some Obvious Questions & Observations About the Officer's Actions & Motives:
1. What was a DETECTIVE doing directing traffic?
2. Why would a police officer "attach themselves" to a Vehicle and not release immediately if the vehicle moved or didn't stop? (Appears to be self-inflicted injury)
3. What does the officer's training advise them to do when a vehicle doesn't stop?
4. How clear was the Officer's instructions? Is the officer ARTICULATE or difficult to understand? What did they say? - it could have been confusing.
4. What other incidents involving unusual or erratic behavior has the injured officer been involved with?
5. What were the injured officer's motives? - Do they have financial issues and were looking for a way to "enrich themselves" by having a multi-millionaire be responsible for injuring them?
6. Was it really necessary for police to stop vehicles or could they have SERVED THE PUBLIC better by creating a detour that kept traffic moving while safely conducting their investigation?

Police have a lot of POWER, so with that Power comes RESPONSIBILITY to wield it fairly.
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I've witnessed some very poor traffic directing from "traffic cops". Sometimes they change signals so quick its tough to know what the heck they want you to do.
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There have been no posts about the situation at the PGA tournament yesterday. First of all and most importantly, condolences to the family of the victim of the shuttle bus accident.

That being said, even though the facts aren't all known, I'll pose this question for speculation:

Scottie Scheffler----master criminal or victim of an overly exuberant police officer?
Only Scottie and the police officer know the answer to that. All else is speculation. Even witnesses often misinterpret and/or don’t see the whole incident.
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There have been no posts about the situation at the PGA tournament yesterday. First of all and most importantly, condolences to the family of the victim of the shuttle bus accident.

That being said, even though the facts aren't all known, I'll pose this question for speculation:

Scottie Scheffler----master criminal or victim of an overly exuberant police officer?
I saw a post about it from dewilson. Scottie Scheffler arrested.
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I am giving the police a little slack. There was a traffic fatality 45 minutes before the Scottie incident. I suspect the police were in a heightened emotion when Scottie stared his drive up the shoulder.
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He’s a golfer, he must be innocent! Do you hear yourself?
Did you see any of the footage? Did you not see police cars with lights flashing? What was the Detective doing? His job!
That’s like questioning if you stopped at an accident scene that just happened and you wanted to direct traffic around people that got hurt, how would you feel if people disregarded you and hit the people that got hurt?
Say the cops closed a highway down because of a fatality, but you had a golfer go around the barricade because he didn’t want to be late for his tee time? He was in a marked golf car so it should be fine!!!
Stop blaming the cops.
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Some Obvious Questions & Observations About the Officer's Actions & Motives:
1. What was a DETECTIVE doing directing traffic?
2. Why would a police officer "attach themselves" to a Vehicle and not release immediately if the vehicle moved or didn't stop? (Appears to be self-inflicted injury)
3. What does the officer's training advise them to do when a vehicle doesn't stop?
4. How clear was the Officer's instructions? Is the officer ARTICULATE or difficult to understand? What did they say? - it could have been confusing.
4. What other incidents involving unusual or erratic behavior has the injured officer been involved with?
5. What were the injured officer's motives? - Do they have financial issues and were looking for a way to "enrich themselves" by having a multi-millionaire be responsible for injuring them?
6. Was it really necessary for police to stop vehicles or could they have SERVED THE PUBLIC better by creating a detour that kept traffic moving while safely conducting their investigation?

Police have a lot of POWER, so with that Power comes RESPONSIBILITY to wield it fairly.
Not going to answer all the questions posed but will say that it is not unusual......in what is clearly an international level event, to have ‘all hands on deck’ for it. So the detective, although usually non uniformed, would be for such a massive undertaking. Happens all the time at sporting, concert events across the country.
Given the chaotic scene, do you really think said officer knew he was ‘attaching’ himself to a ‘multi millionaire’ vehicle to ‘enrich’ himself? Really?
Did you not see one of the officers in Darlingtons video ask who they arrested? Again, this was a pre dawn, weather inclement, chaotic crime scene. As I said before, just as a Mon. AM quarterback....I believe there is enough....shared, blame to go around.
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:37 AM
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Not going to answer all the questions posed but will say that it is not unusual......in what is clearly an international level event, to have ‘all hands on deck’ for it. So the detective, although usually non uniformed, would be for such a massive undertaking. Happens all the time at sporting, concert events across the country.
Given the chaotic scene, do you really think said officer knew he was ‘attaching’ himself to a ‘multi millionaire’ vehicle to ‘enrich’ himself? Really?
Did you not see one of the officers in Darlingtons video ask who they arrested? Again, this was a pre dawn, weather inclement, chaotic crime scene. As I said before, just as a Mon. AM quarterback....I believe there is enough....shared, blame to go around.
Well, it's all over but the shouting. One thing I will say is this, if one of us was trying to make tee time here in TV and tried to drive around a blocked Buena Vista, we would probably be waiting to see the judge.
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Well, it's all over but the shouting. One thing I will say is this, if one of us was trying to make tee time here in TV and tried to drive around a blocked Buena Vista, we would probably be waiting to see the judge.
Unfortunately, none of us are the Star of the Show, in a $200,000,000, world wide showcase of talent.
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Again, they keep stating he " didnt know it was a police officer"...which leads me back to my first post on this. Why does it matter? A human being is attached to your vehicle. Stop!
I can't find any report where that part is disputed. Look..hes a good guy in a bad scene...its unfortunate but it is what it is at this point
Come on we don’t know that. Did he attach a harness or was he just running along side the vehicle with hand on the door handle? It was chaotic with rain and it was dark with about the entire police force running around with all their lites on. In my opinion the PGA officials should have been out there directing the participants vehicles with cooperation of the police officers. The police officer should never grab a handle. He should have banged on the window with his flashlite which eventually he did.
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There have been no posts about the situation at the PGA tournament yesterday. First of all and most importantly, condolences to the family of the victim of the shuttle bus accident.

That being said, even though the facts aren't all known, I'll pose this question for speculation: looks like a setup to me to try to eliminate the favorite from a big four major .

Scottie Scheffler----master criminal or victim of an overly exuberant police officer?
. Looks like a setup to me as they try to eliminate the favorite to win one of the big four tournaments. Go Scottie!!
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