[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Well, I grew up in NM and am there often. American Indians who live in NM, Navajos, Apaches and Pueblos, continue to refer to themselves as Indians.

My former spouse is 28% American Indian and refers to that part of herself as Indian.

Many years ago my mother taught at the Santa Fe Indian School. Santa Fe Indian School

My grandma was 1/2 Native American. When anyone would ask her about being an Indian she would answer, “Indian? Heavens No. I’ve never even left here.”
Grandma always made us laugh.

[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by ALadysMom

Yes...but...wouldn’t it be better if one could admit what they didn’t know without being labeled as a racist?

By the way, did you know not to make the hand gesture for o.k. 👌 because some think that is offensive too.

IMO it’s too easy to always claim offense about things now. It’s a lot like crying wolf.

ALadysMom - I find you a breath of fresh air. You make your point and you are respectful in your replies. You're not condescending, and you can even make your point without at least 10 emojis!

[Velvet]

As far as cupping a person’s face goes I was taught that good manners requires one to do what makes the other person comfortable in general. This applies even to children not only to people of different races. If an adult would not like their face to be cupped or pinched, why do they do it to a child?
Good manners is not because of who the other person is, it is because who you are.

[Tennisbum]

Look up Kwanza, same thing!

[Velvet]

Some of us don’t hide behind anything, I look forward to attending a TOTV party ... after Covid... and I hold the same ideas in real life too.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tennisbum

Look up Kwanza, same thing!

Isn't Kwanza at Christmastime??

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Tennisbum

Look up Kwanza, same thing!

Kwanzaa was fabricated in 1966 after the Watts riots and has nothing to do with emancipation. It was ginned up as a pseudo African holiday. I had heard Jesse Jackson came up with the idea but supposedly it was this other guy.

Kwanzaa - HISTORY

Juneteenth celebrates emancipation, freedom from slavery and IMHO qualifies as a legitimate holiday, like the 4th of July.

[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Well, I grew up in NM and am there often. American Indians who live in NM, Navajos, Apaches and Pueblos, continue to refer to themselves as Indians.

My former spouse is 28% American Indian and refers to that part of herself as Indian.

Many years ago my mother taught at the Santa Fe Indian School. Santa Fe Indian School

Originally Posted by Northwoods

ALadysMom - I find you a breath of fresh air. You make your point and you are respectful in your replies. You're not condescending, and you can even make your point without at least 10 emojis!

Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate it.

[Stu from NYC]

Before too long it will become a national holiday. Our previous bank in Va is going to close early so people can their employees can observe it.

No idea of their other branches but the branch that I dealt with was all Caucasians.

Originally Posted by kenoc7

The Confederate flag is a painful reminder of hate, bigotry, treason, and devaluation of humanity

actually the real hate show was when the North was required to integrate just like the South

[stadry]

if you use an i-phone, you'll see juneteenth on your calendar

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by ALadysMom

Yes...but...wouldn’t it be better if one could admit what they didn’t know without being labeled as a racist?

By the way, did you know not to make the hand gesture for o.k. 👌 because some think that is offensive too.

IMO it’s too easy to always claim offense about things now. It’s a lot like crying wolf.

Now I know why that diver tried to cut my air line!

[eyc234]

Juneteenth is not about The Emancipation Proclamation.

The Emancipation Proclamation, or Proclamation 95, was a presidential proclamation and executive order issued by United States President Abraham Lincoln on September 22, 1862, and effective as of January 1, 1863.

Juneteenth is an unofficial American holiday and an official Texas state holiday, celebrated annually on the 19th of June in the United States to commemorate Union army general Gordon Granger apprising federal orders in the city of Galveston, Texas, on June 19, 1865, proclaiming all slaves in Texas were now free.


Please get facts correct.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Velvet

As far as cupping a person’s face goes I was taught that good manners requires one to do what makes the other person comfortable in general. This applies even to children not only to people of different races. If an adult would not like their face to be cupped or pinched, why do they do it to a child?
Good manners is not because of who the other person is, it is because who you are.

My neighbor gives my cheek a fond pat all the time, I find it endearing. Throughout my entire life I've had people touch my face, pinch my cheeks, given my cheek a fond pat, squeezed my shoulder, pat my back, hug me - I've never found it to be discomforting and thought it was normal and acceptable. I've had no reason to think otherwise.

I come from a family that enjoys physical signs of affection. It's what I was exposed to. My neighborhood friends always hugged when I was a kid. Teachers hugged their students or put a thumb under their student's chin as a way of saying "be proud," or "stand proud," or "I'm proud of you." Or sometimes as a way of saying "look at me when I'm talking to you" - depending on the expression of the teacher's face, heh.

So again - I had no reason to think it was a "racist thing." Turns out, it is.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by eyc234

Juneteenth is not about The Emancipation Proclamation.

The Emancipation Proclamation, or Proclamation 95, was a presidential proclamation and executive order issued by United States President Abraham Lincoln on September 22, 1862, and effective as of January 1, 1863.

Juneteenth is an unofficial American holiday and an official Texas state holiday, celebrated annually on the 19th of June in the United States to commemorate Union army general Gordon Granger apprising federal orders in the city of Galveston, Texas, on June 19, 1865, proclaiming all slaves in Texas were now free.


Please get facts correct.

It happened 2 years later, because it took 2 years for Texas to be officially informed of the federal orders two years prior.

The Juneteenth commemorates the date that finally, every state in the Country was informed of the federal order.

Mississippi didn't even officially ratify the 13th Amendment until February 7, 2013.

But on June 19, 1865, the last state to be informed that the amendment was passed and officially adopted into the Constitution, Texas, was informed.