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Old 11-09-2023, 09:17 PM
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Hah, how did I know who the OP was before opening the thread?
Because it states the name of the thread starter right below the thread title?
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Old 11-09-2023, 09:21 PM
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My disease is kleptomania. When do they turn off surveillance and send store detectives on break. Also would like to know if they forbid screaming kids during sensory friendly hours.
It would hard and cruel to control autistic children, ( or your idea to forbid them because of a handicap) when shopping with special needs in public. Although it has been proven even with low functioning, behaviors is 60% better in a sensory friendly environment.
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It would hard and cruel to control autistic children, ( or your idea to forbid them because of a handicap) when shopping with special needs in public. Although it has been proven even with low functioning, behaviors is 60% better in a sensory friendly environment.
I'm referring to the ubiquitous unruly kids that are there every visit.
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Old 11-10-2023, 05:41 AM
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Let's see--well, from what I gather, anyone who may have such sensory issues may not even be allowed in the military; they'd be "4-F'd", if that's the correct term, and, well, such lights and sounds may not bother you particularly, but those on the autism spectrum--like me--might find bright lights and intrusive background music to be disturbing and even distressful. While, I imagine, its presence or absence may not impact you at all either way.

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Thank you so much for posting this.

If you met me in public, you’d probably like me. I’m likable and personable and I’m a good listener. I’ve written ten books on architectural history. The world would probably call me “successful.”

I’m a nationally known expert in a goofy little niche topic, and I had a good run with my crazy career, and I know that my books have brought many people much joy.

I’m also autistic (high functioning) and bright lights and loud noises are extremely painful to me. In fact, my body interprets loud noises as physical pain. My wiring is a bit different from “normies.”

Being around large groups of people is very difficult.

Online shopping changed my life. Instacart is a dream come true for me. I won’t venture into Walmart unless the need is urgent.

I think it’s wonderful that they’re considering this and implementing it. And the real question is, how does it hurt anyone else if they create a couple hours of “a more peaceful atmosphere”?
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Old 11-10-2023, 05:56 AM
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so-called "wussification" of America. Today Walmart announced that starting Friday they will have "sensory friendly" hours from 8-10 AM when the lights will be lower, the radio off and the TV screens set to a static image. Are they kidding???? What individual or group made this complaint and why in the world would Walmart even give a second thought to listening to them, much less enacting such an idiotic policy.

Let's hope we never get into a real war. I can see it now: "Sargeant, would you please tell the enemy to cut it out---their bombs are too bright and too noisy. Also, you failed to designate which foxholes are free speech zones." We are in trouble.
Wow……. Bah humbug, let’s don’t try to do anything nice for autistic children. If you not like it don’t go then. As a doctor, you would think you know, there’s a lot of autistic children and adults out there, how is this any different then have him motorized scooters for disable.
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Old 11-10-2023, 05:57 AM
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I don't see this as a problem. This is to accommodate people/children with Autism. It's no different than handicap ramps or gluten free menus for people with Celiac disease.
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I know how to have a sensory-sensitive shopping experience every time, and 24/7. Go to that big box store's website and order from that. See, no radio, no TV, no loud noises, no kids running around, no bright lights, no shiny floors or white walls or opening/closing doors, no whatever bothers you.

Problem solved, completely, cheaply, and without inconveniencing anyone else. Easy-peasy.
How is lowering the light effect anyone else. I truly don’t understand why anyone can have a problem with this. Man even when a company does something nice people find fault……..shameful
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Old 11-10-2023, 06:28 AM
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Thank you so much for posting this.

If you met me in public, you’d probably like me. I’m likable and personable and I’m a good listener. I’ve written ten books on architectural history. The world would probably call me “successful.”

I’m a nationally known expert in a goofy little niche topic, and I had a good run with my crazy career, and I know that my books have brought many people much joy.

I’m also autistic (high functioning) and bright lights and loud noises are extremely painful to me. In fact, my body interprets loud noises as physical pain. My wiring is a bit different from “normies.”

Being around large groups of people is very difficult.

Online shopping changed my life. Instacart is a dream come true for me. I won’t venture into Walmart unless the need is urgent.

I think it’s wonderful that they’re considering this and implementing it. And the real question is, how does it hurt anyone else if they create a couple hours of “a more peaceful atmosphere”?
It doesn’t hurt anyone, there are just selfish people in this world.
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Old 11-10-2023, 06:55 AM
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Wow……. Bah humbug, let’s don’t try to do anything nice for autistic children. If you not like it don’t go then. As a doctor, you would think you know, there’s a lot of autistic children and adults out there, how is this any different then have him motorized scooters for disable.
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And yet another person who DID NOT READ any of my SUBSEQUENT posts. Sorry, I'm not going to point again to yet another person how wrong you are. Just go back through the thread and see MY REAL opinion.
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Old 11-10-2023, 08:26 AM
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It would hard and cruel to control autistic children, ( or your idea to forbid them because of a handicap) when shopping with special needs in public. Although it has been proven even with low functioning, behaviors is 60% better in a sensory friendly environment.
In reference to my comments about LOUD annoying gasoline-powered lawnmowers (not electric ones), it would be nice if the WHOLE Villages was a "sensory-friendly environment".
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Old 11-10-2023, 08:35 AM
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Thank you so much for posting this.

If you met me in public, you’d probably like me. I’m likable and personable and I’m a good listener. I’ve written ten books on architectural history. The world would probably call me “successful.”

I’m a nationally known expert in a goofy little niche topic, and I had a good run with my crazy career, and I know that my books have brought many people much joy.

I’m also autistic (high functioning) and bright lights and loud noises are extremely painful to me. In fact, my body interprets loud noises as physical pain. My wiring is a bit different from “normies.”

Being around large groups of people is very difficult.

Online shopping changed my life. Instacart is a dream come true for me. I won’t venture into Walmart unless the need is urgent.

I think it’s wonderful that they’re considering this and implementing it. And the real question is, how does it hurt anyone else if they create a couple hours of “a more peaceful atmosphere”?
That was interesting - turning being a good listener into 10 books on an important subject. It is amazing how many real experts are right here among us in The Villages. I wonder if LOUD lawnmowers in the neighborhood bother you? They do me. Too bad that is the exception and not the rule.
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Old 11-10-2023, 08:46 AM
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And yet another person who DID NOT READ any of my SUBSEQUENT posts. Sorry, I'm not going to point again to yet another person how wrong you are. Just go back through the thread and see MY REAL opinion.


Good morning to you……

While you are shouting out orders, please take time to re-read my post below — that I wrote yesterday in response to that extremely angry opener of this thread.

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I wanted to write a post about how people who wake up every morning — looking for something to be angry about — perhaps need to seek less sensory stimulation.

The choice to tune into sources where the goal of the programmers is to provide their devoted audience with a constant barrage of reasons to be furious about something, anything, whatever fires ‘em up — should maybe be reevaluated.


All around us, we are seeing the symptom of the calculated, insidious training, via screens, that has resulted in the need to thrive on anger and the need for validation of that anger. In many cases, that need can become insatiable, resulting in behavior that takes over the personality. This behavior, throughout our country, is affecting relationships on every level.

It is interesting to read about amygdala-hijacking which attributes some of this behavior to basic neuroscience. The emotional part of the brain can become highly susceptible to negative emotions and reactions — if hammered long enough and hard enough.

Maybe people need to step away from their screens of choice for a while and see if they feel better and are not flying-off-the-handle all the time. Give up those marching orders spewed every day about who to bash — and most often it is a bashing of those who are doing no harm, just trying to live their lives but viciously used as easy targets by talking heads with a big following. (‘Following’ is the operative word there.)

Actually, my first thought when I saw this thread was for people who suffer from autism, which can exhibit a wide variety of symptoms. I think it is just fine to try to help this part of our population. Nobody is harmed by this WM plan. But obviously, it must have been the “mean news of the day” on a screen somewhere.


(And, yes, I saw the back-pedaling post. Not enough to erase the pattern though. Maybe it is time to heal thyself.)

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And, now, please look at the post below that blames the writer of “the news snippet.” HAH! That writer was just doing his job — which is to throw together half-truths and/or plain dysinformation, to elicit a furious response from readers who fall for it, and it’s so easy to get those knee-jerk reactions.

Look at this. It’s pure cause and effect. Take a deep breath, think, and own it. The post below proves my point.

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Sorry to hear about your problem. If you look at subsequent posts you'll see I support the idea---the news snippet I saw had zero explanation of the reasoning behind their new policy. Once Asian explained it, I had more information and adjusted my viewpoint. (PS: that is NOT "backpaddling
Yep. There it is — admitted — cause and effect.

Seriously, I meant it when I said, “Heal Thyself.” Arrogant, hateful, reactionary tirades, time after time, are not good for anybody. Don’t buy into things that promote dehumanization. It’s all around us now, out in the open. Please pay attention. Think.

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That was interesting - turning being a good listener into 10 books on an important subject. It is amazing how many real experts are right here among us in The Villages. I wonder if LOUD lawnmowers in the neighborhood bother you? They do me. Too bad that is the exception and not the rule.
Yeah, because of my "amazing memory," my fun hobby evolved into a career that gave me much joy. My books and I have been featured on PBS' "History Detectives," CBS "Sunday Morning," and several other national programs. It was a good run. I had a blast.

That "amazing memory" comes with a splash of autism. To answer your question, loud noises (and lawn mowers and leaf blowers ) are very disruptive and disturbing. I'm grateful for the quietude of The Villages - and it IS quiet - most of the time!

It's part of the reason I'm here.
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Wow……. Bah humbug, let’s don’t try to do anything nice for autistic children. If you not like it don’t go then. As a doctor, you would think you know, there’s a lot of autistic children and adults out there, how is this any different then have him motorized scooters for disable.
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And yet another person who DID NOT READ any of my SUBSEQUENT posts. Sorry, I'm not going to point again to yet another person how wrong you are. Just go back through the thread and see MY REAL opinion.
We all saw your REAL opinion. Your REAL opinion is that a word, the word "woke," triggers the ugly reactive side of you. Anything you read on the internetwebz or on your Newsmax or Stormfront or Fox News or anti-whatever cable show that includes that word "woke" in their conversation sets you into a rabid, mouth-frothing tizzy and you just can't help yourself in posting here about it. You don't care what the topic is, it's a reaction to the word.

That is your real opinion. Your opinion is noted.
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