Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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So educate me. Just who does want open borders? Who wants sanctuary cities? Who wants free tuition and loan forgiveness? And just what does "defund" the police mean? If not the "woke", who? And how are "they" different? |
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And your claim that "the borders are not open" is laughable... |
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Defunding the police means expanding the function of the municipality - using money that would normally ONLY go to arresting people and giving out tickets, and adding social workers and crisis control personnel to help decompress potentially violent situations, so they don't become violent - thus reducing the workload of police, and making them be more efficient at doing their own job - without ALSO having to serve as social workers and crisis control personnel. This was very well explained, for a couple of years, in most media that was not "alternative facts" media. Most people who don't cling to their alternative facts, already know this. Free tuition is not free, this is also a known thing. There are several candidates (or were, in 2016 and 2020) who want to see a model of education that is favored in MOST other countries, where people tend to be much better educated overall than Americans are. Where secondary school is semi-private, and STATE university-level school becomes free to all citizens. Private schools remain private, and profitable if they choose so - and can charge whatever the market will bear. But state universities and colleges would not cost money to residents of the state. That would be tuition only. If there's living or food expenses, the families would still have to pay for it. Considering the fact that tuition-free state university works in other countries, it isn't a bad idea. The implementation would be a tough thing in this country though, and that's where there's a divide on the concept. This COUNTRY is a sanctuary COUNTRY. There shouldn't be a need for sanctuary cities at all. Our country was founded and continued to be developed on the concept of welcoming people in who were escaping tyranny, genocide, fascism, and mandated religion. That is the entire point of the United States of America. Anyone who doesn't understand that - is not paying attention or has chosen to pretend otherwise. The concept of a "sanctuary city" is to accommodate those seeking sanctuary (asylum seekers) who, by law, enter this country illegally. That is the lawful process, if you want to flee for your life from your home country, and seek relative safety in the United States. You come in, you get processed, and you get placed. There aren't enough processors, the process is anything but efficient, and some asylum seekers and refugees can wait 10 years or more before they are finally processed and given permission to be here. Meanwhile, they are given temporary work visas where they can work, pay taxes, have social security tax taken out of their paychecks - but they will NEVER be eligible to collect social security paychecks from those deductions. If they are granted citizenship, any paycheck deductions they have from that moment forward, will finally count. But they have no rights to any of the SS deductions while they are here and not citizens. It's a trade-off. They pay for the privilege of being here, and they don't have to endure their families being beaten daily, kidnapped, sold into slavery, stabbed, raped, their businesses "taxed" 80% by corrupt guerrilla governments, and leaving them with no money for food, clothing. The term "woke" - has nothing to do with ANY of the above. The term "woke" means "recognizing that the general population of black Americans descend from slavery, and slavery was a really bad thing, no matter who the slave-owner was, no matter how those slaves got to this country, and we're thankful we as a country don't do that anymore." That's how I'd explain it to a 10-year-old. Hopefully you're mature enough to translate it to adult-speak. Woke has also been extended to include any injustice, from systemic racism (which is still a thing, just look at gerrymandered districts in many larger cities around this country), to antisemitism (oh freedom of speech means literal actual pin-wearing Nazis can congregate outside a synagogue in Florida shouting "Jews will not replace us!"), to homophobia (yes they're different. No, they're not trying to get into your pants. If it's okay for a guy and a girl to grope each other in public, then it's okay for a girl and a girl to grope each other in public. Sorry this hurts your feelings but you don't get to decide who other people will love. Full stop.). Woke isn't permissiveness. Woke is acknowledgement and recognition that "other" exists, and "other" are human beings who deserve to be treated like humans. |
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1) If no one wants open borders, why is our border so porous????? If no one wants open borders, why the resistance to tightening it up?---walls, fences, border patrol. Personally, I would use minefields and machine gun towers, but I doubt you'd agree. And just who is supporting this concept if not "the woke"? 2) When some criminal is trying to invade my home, regardless of his mental health status, I DO NOT WANT A SOCIAL WORKER, I want a SWAT team. And the sooner they put a bullet in his head, the better. 3) We are NOT A "SANCTUARY COUNTRY". We are a country of laws (at least we used to be), and while we welcome those that want to emigrate into the US, there is a LEGAL process for doing this, as well as a waiting list. Those that do not follow the process or wade across the Rio Grande are ILLEGAL ALIENS (not migrants, not undocumented---ILLEGAL). By their very presence they have committed a felony against the people of the United States, and should be immediately deported or incarcerated. This "fleeing oppression" nonsense may apply to a few, but not the hoards that cross daily in caravans through Mexico. 4) As far as "Sanctuary Cities" go, they are the ones that I would IMMEDIATELY DEFUND, and by that I mean pull all federal funding, NOT send in a social worker. I would also arrest the mayor and city council of all these cities for violating Federal law. That should end that problem in a hurry. 5) Yes, many African-Americans descend from FORMER slaves, and slavery was indeed "bad" as you put it. The Egyptians enslaving the Israelites was "bad". The Babylonians enslaving the Israelites was "bad". The Romans enslaving just about everyone was "bad" But slavery in the US ended, and I'll even throw you this bone, on June 19th, 1865---158 years ago. It is time to get over it and stop using it as an excuse for every type of "bad" behavior out there. 6) Most human beings deserve to be treated as human, but there are exceptions. Perhaps we should send a social worker to talk to those that cut the heads of babies off in front of their parents. And finally, I explained the way things are as I would to a 6 year old, hopefullythere are some that can understand it |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqBBBKE5Jm0
Tim the Tool Man was better with communicating than some people using "woke". It just looks like the equivalent of GGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. |
#141
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There's no point in going further with you on this (or any other) topic. You're more interested in spewing the brigaded rhetoric you find on the internet and championing "Whataboutism" to bother with. Enjoy your vitriol. I'll just block you so I don't have to read it anymore. |
#142
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And YOU"RE the one that is so far gone into wokeism that it isn't worth debating. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zmcc9xPHBI This is recent, after the influx of illegals that the city as a santuary city has been hosting & has been begging the influx to stop. He is reiterating the party line. You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but it is the party line. You've chosen not to notice. |
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If no one wants "Open Borders", then why is the Federal Government cutting the border wire and using bulldozers to lift the barbed/razor wire in Texas so that undocumented aliens can enter the country illegally?
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#146
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Posting incognito tends to bring the Mr. Hyde out of the Dr. Jeckle.
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#147
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And it releases the "crazy" in others...
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#148
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"Woke" has a pretty flexible meaning. It is whatever the person speaking or writing wants it to mean. It is a silly putty of a word.
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I still don't see how 15 minutes of lawn mowing noise bothers anyone, but even though there are a lot of folks in the Villages on their way "out" we are not in a funeral home where most folks are fairly quiet. I have about 15 minutes of landscaping noise per day in my neighborhood and I hardly notice it. I guess some folks would prefer to have goats eating the long grass instead of a few minutes of "noise." Of course, then there would be complaints of smell. But, then again some folks stray off the subject of the thread too, and that is something we can complain about.
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